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AIBU to oppose housing 1,000 undocumented young men near Piddington?

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PiddingtonFan · 16/09/2026 09:38

We dont need anymore undocumented young males.

1000 proposed to be housed near Piddington. Young males from a different culture.

AIBU to agree with them. Enough undocumented males. Too many males overwhelming a small population. 😪

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nomas · 17/09/2026 14:55

AlphaQueue · 17/09/2026 14:54

If I gave you a box of biscuits and only few were laced with poison, how many would you eat?

No ones asking you to eat asylum seekers.

EasternStandard · 17/09/2026 14:55

FaceTips · 17/09/2026 14:52

Many people here are certainly talking about the entire thousand men as a threat. And throwing around stereotypes. And all I am saying is that there will be some decent men amongst them.

I’ve said a humanitarian visa system would be better. It allows vetting and control over numbers. It takes a lot of the strain out. If we vetted as much as Aus or Ukrainian people on a humanitarian visa then it’d help.

But stalling to do this just means the window for the public to accept say 20k each year reduces. Because people feel gaslit and attacked with various far right lines.

EasternStandard · 17/09/2026 14:56

shecanbe · 17/09/2026 14:43

Are you arguing that there is something innately different about the average Indian man that makes him more likely than an average Italian man to sexually assault women? Do you actually think this?

@shecanbedo you consider all countries as pretty much the same in terms of safety and treatment of women and girls?

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 14:57

Lugol · 17/09/2026 14:13

Why does everyone on this classist thread assume that if one is middle class they want them living nearby?

I don't want them nearby nor do I want to pay for them either.

I think what you meant to say is most PEOPLE would do the same as the women of Piddington.

The UK is crumbling and people can't afford to fund their own lives never mind thousands and thousands of men on top.

The only people who assume that ‘middle class’ people want to house immigrants are the people who equate left wing/liberals with being middle class. Which is baffling, because the left wing movements throughout history have been driven by and for working class people so I can only assume the people who believe that are neither left wing nor working class. Likely they are middle class and somehow oblivious to their own good fortune.

The fact is it doesn’t matter whether people who any migrant housing near them or not, places are not being selected for their popularity or the wealth or class of the surrounding area. It’s only about available land/buildings.

Lugol · 17/09/2026 14:58

nomas · 17/09/2026 14:25

You said he was 'a man'. You didn't say migrant. How would you even know he was a migrant? You can tell by looking can you? Hmm

I knew he was a migrant because he was with a bunch of them from the hotel right next to Asda, and yes I could tell. 🙄

Holeymoley28 · 17/09/2026 14:59

I wouldn’t want a 1,000 random men with no background checks, no jobs, no family here, with a culture that likely doesn’t respect women dumped next to me or mine either.

Hell I wouldn’t want 1,000 single British men with no jobs and nothing to do suddenly dumped next to my own either.

Hoardasurass · 17/09/2026 15:01

FaceTips · 17/09/2026 14:52

Many people here are certainly talking about the entire thousand men as a threat. And throwing around stereotypes. And all I am saying is that there will be some decent men amongst them.

So what % of these 1250 men being a threat to women and girls is acceptable to you?
And remember that they will outnumber women and girls in piddington 10 to 1

EasternStandard · 17/09/2026 15:03

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 14:57

The only people who assume that ‘middle class’ people want to house immigrants are the people who equate left wing/liberals with being middle class. Which is baffling, because the left wing movements throughout history have been driven by and for working class people so I can only assume the people who believe that are neither left wing nor working class. Likely they are middle class and somehow oblivious to their own good fortune.

The fact is it doesn’t matter whether people who any migrant housing near them or not, places are not being selected for their popularity or the wealth or class of the surrounding area. It’s only about available land/buildings.

It’d be a good way to avoid backlash.

On Labour particularly it was on another thread that it’s more AB these days, which tends to be mc.

I’m not sure anyone would raise their hand and say yes 1000 plus in barracks near me, unless someone wants to say as such.

Much of this seems to be Piddington shouldn’t mind.

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:05

nomas · 17/09/2026 13:59

I don't think the men from RAF Wethersfield can afford a £5 pint on their £10 per week subsistence payment.

Perhaps some of them steal alcohol from local shops?

One of the residents at Wethersfield managed to drink a litre of vodka, had to be put in a coma at hospital, after he recovered he groped a nurse and urinated in public on the way back to the camp (assault Jan 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/asylum-seeker-living-raf-wethersfield-10905189

This resident at Wethersfield headbutted and kicked security guards in a drunken rage and caused a significant amount of damage to the security office on a separate occasion. He failed to turn up at court and went on the run (recaptured Feb 2026):

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/foreign-criminal-caught-police-following-10800005
https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/25825928.wethersfield-asylum-seeker-headbutted-security-guards/

This resident at Wethersfield stabbed a fellow resident with a pair of scissors in an ‘unprovoked’ assault (assault March 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/man-stabbed-scissors-unprovoked-attack-10994662

This resident at Wethersfield was charged in May 2026 with common assault and criminal damage - apparently he assaulted a woman at an RSPCA charity shop in Braintree;

https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/26149635.wethersfield-man-charged-woman-assaulted-braintree/

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:06

Lugol · 17/09/2026 14:58

I knew he was a migrant because he was with a bunch of them from the hotel right next to Asda, and yes I could tell. 🙄

Maybe you could offer your 'I could tell' skills to the Home Office.

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:08

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:05

Perhaps some of them steal alcohol from local shops?

One of the residents at Wethersfield managed to drink a litre of vodka, had to be put in a coma at hospital, after he recovered he groped a nurse and urinated in public on the way back to the camp (assault Jan 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/asylum-seeker-living-raf-wethersfield-10905189

This resident at Wethersfield headbutted and kicked security guards in a drunken rage and caused a significant amount of damage to the security office on a separate occasion. He failed to turn up at court and went on the run (recaptured Feb 2026):

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/foreign-criminal-caught-police-following-10800005
https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/25825928.wethersfield-asylum-seeker-headbutted-security-guards/

This resident at Wethersfield stabbed a fellow resident with a pair of scissors in an ‘unprovoked’ assault (assault March 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/man-stabbed-scissors-unprovoked-attack-10994662

This resident at Wethersfield was charged in May 2026 with common assault and criminal damage - apparently he assaulted a woman at an RSPCA charity shop in Braintree;

https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/26149635.wethersfield-man-charged-woman-assaulted-braintree/

So 4 incidents out of 1220 people?

Seems to fit with Essex police saying the crime increase has been 'very low'.

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 15:08

Hoardasurass · 17/09/2026 15:01

So what % of these 1250 men being a threat to women and girls is acceptable to you?
And remember that they will outnumber women and girls in piddington 10 to 1

Why do we assume the men will be going to go to Piddington? The Home Office documents don’t.

The main site entrance is oriented towards Arncott, not Piddington. The southern entrance is only about 50m from the road that leads directly into Arncott and there is no pedestrian route from the site towards Piddington. The nearest Piddington public footpath doesn’t reach the site. So it’s possible but far from the only possibility. Arncott has 1660 people. are they part of the protest?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a915bdf3b22fb169dc18f3f/Transport_Assessment.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a915bdf3b22fb169dc18f3f/Transport_Assessment.pdf

LuckyHazelFox · 17/09/2026 15:09

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:05

Perhaps some of them steal alcohol from local shops?

One of the residents at Wethersfield managed to drink a litre of vodka, had to be put in a coma at hospital, after he recovered he groped a nurse and urinated in public on the way back to the camp (assault Jan 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/asylum-seeker-living-raf-wethersfield-10905189

This resident at Wethersfield headbutted and kicked security guards in a drunken rage and caused a significant amount of damage to the security office on a separate occasion. He failed to turn up at court and went on the run (recaptured Feb 2026):

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/foreign-criminal-caught-police-following-10800005
https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/25825928.wethersfield-asylum-seeker-headbutted-security-guards/

This resident at Wethersfield stabbed a fellow resident with a pair of scissors in an ‘unprovoked’ assault (assault March 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/man-stabbed-scissors-unprovoked-attack-10994662

This resident at Wethersfield was charged in May 2026 with common assault and criminal damage - apparently he assaulted a woman at an RSPCA charity shop in Braintree;

https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/26149635.wethersfield-man-charged-woman-assaulted-braintree/

Yes, the reality v the rosy picture painted by the pub landlady, who doesn't want her trade scared off.

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:10

LuckyHazelFox · 17/09/2026 15:09

Yes, the reality v the rosy picture painted by the pub landlady, who doesn't want her trade scared off.

The she wouldn't be saying she's scared of the far right men who come to the town.

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 15:10

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:05

Perhaps some of them steal alcohol from local shops?

One of the residents at Wethersfield managed to drink a litre of vodka, had to be put in a coma at hospital, after he recovered he groped a nurse and urinated in public on the way back to the camp (assault Jan 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/asylum-seeker-living-raf-wethersfield-10905189

This resident at Wethersfield headbutted and kicked security guards in a drunken rage and caused a significant amount of damage to the security office on a separate occasion. He failed to turn up at court and went on the run (recaptured Feb 2026):

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/foreign-criminal-caught-police-following-10800005
https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/25825928.wethersfield-asylum-seeker-headbutted-security-guards/

This resident at Wethersfield stabbed a fellow resident with a pair of scissors in an ‘unprovoked’ assault (assault March 2026);

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/man-stabbed-scissors-unprovoked-attack-10994662

This resident at Wethersfield was charged in May 2026 with common assault and criminal damage - apparently he assaulted a woman at an RSPCA charity shop in Braintree;

https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/26149635.wethersfield-man-charged-woman-assaulted-braintree/

But all the asylum seeking men are rapists, why haven’t you included those cases?

EasternStandard · 17/09/2026 15:12

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 15:10

But all the asylum seeking men are rapists, why haven’t you included those cases?

The issue is without vetting it’s not great for the woman, girl, man or boy who becomes the victim to show who is a risk.

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 15:12

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:10

The she wouldn't be saying she's scared of the far right men who come to the town.

’local people are terrified of asylum seeking men’

”quote from local person who is not terrified”

’oh well that local person doesn’t want others to know how terrifying it is’

LuckyHazelFox · 17/09/2026 15:13

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:10

The she wouldn't be saying she's scared of the far right men who come to the town.

Why not, when they are everyone's whipping boy and distraction?

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 15:13

EasternStandard · 17/09/2026 15:12

The issue is without vetting it’s not great for the woman, girl, man or boy who becomes the victim to show who is a risk.

Can you tell me how vetting predicts who is a rapist?

LeaderBee · 17/09/2026 15:14

PiddingtonFan · 16/09/2026 09:52

Piddington doesn't look stale, it looks lovely. What jobs are young undocumented males going to do. Maybe retrain as care workers? Perhaps training and assistance with language and assimilation might be useful.

There is a leaflet they hand out.

"There is a leaflet they hand out."

You mean that one about it not being OK to rape people?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/understanding-behaviours-and-expectations-in-the-uk-a-guide-for-asylum-seekers/understanding-behaviours-and-expectations-in-the-uk-a-guide-for-asylum-seekers-accessible

EasternStandard · 17/09/2026 15:15

Switchnow · 17/09/2026 15:13

Can you tell me how vetting predicts who is a rapist?

It’s much better to have the resources to do strict checks. It’s possible with a visa not asylum. You get to decide who to give the visa too and can put a higher bar on safeguarding.

It is far better than waiting for a Brighton, Belfast, Rhiannon, elderly man, boy victim and saying oh no.

Use vetting not people to figure it out.

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:15

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:08

So 4 incidents out of 1220 people?

Seems to fit with Essex police saying the crime increase has been 'very low'.

So 4 incidents

There will have been more crimes committed than four. The incidents I linked to are notable.

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:16

LuckyHazelFox · 17/09/2026 15:13

Why not, when they are everyone's whipping boy and distraction?

Would it bring in trade?

nomas · 17/09/2026 15:16

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:15

So 4 incidents

There will have been more crimes committed than four. The incidents I linked to are notable.

So how many? Essex police said it's 'very low'.

Holeymoley28 · 17/09/2026 15:16

Clavinova · 17/09/2026 15:15

So 4 incidents

There will have been more crimes committed than four. The incidents I linked to are notable.

And many will of never even been reported because people have no faith in the police or justice.

Or they just fear payback from the person or community of people who committed the crime.

Or shame themselves for a crime happening to them in plently of woman’s cases.

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