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Granddaughter’s rage over graduation plans.

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ProfessoressaSazzasez · 14/09/2026 19:59

A few weeks ago OH (80, frail) & I met up with his daughter-in-law & grandkids to give GK#1 a 21st birthday gift & congratulate her on her law degree. I know she was disappointed to “only” have got a 2:1 but it’s from a very famous university & bloody good.

They have had their struggles: their Dad (my stepson) went AWOL from parenthood ten years ago, they were illegally evicted & homeless.
We are very proud of them.

GK invited us to her graduation (on a Friday), we talked about planning the trip & what she wanted us to wear for the photos, & DiL getting a day of work, GK#2 taking the day off school to be there.
OH & I both understood we were being asked to book the accommodation for the 5 of us & travel together.

So I booked us a flat for 2 nights - Thursday & Friday - & forwarded the confirmation asking when we could go up on the Thursday so I could book train tickets.

No reply.

Left a voicemail in case they’d missed the email.

Emailed again.

Got a scolding reply from GK#1 telling me it’s HER big day and she’s shocked, SHOCKED I booked accommodation (after we both understood we were being asked to, & checking with her whether she’d need it too) & complaining her mum is finding it hard to get time off from work (which I do not think I can be blamed for).

So I have no idea what’s going on.

i replied that of course it’s her big day & up to her who she has there, that she might forgive me if I misunderstood what she wanted, & pointed out that it’s too late to cancel the booking, but she’s welcome to use the accommodation if she wants.

I said if she wanted her granddad there she should let us know.

It’s a trek for us to get there, & not cheap: OH is blind & i cant drive, so the earlier we can book train tickets the better.

Silence since then.

What to do?

Am I unreasonable to feel rather hurt by this?

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ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:27

WearyAuldWumman · 16/09/2026 13:03

I was told by my late husband's ex (when I took her to a hospital appointment) that she was going on an 18th birthday trip with her daughter and granddaughter. I thought that it was a muli-generational girls' weekend and said something like "Oh, that's lovely."

The ex had recently been widowed for the second time, so I thought "Oh, that's good that they're looking out for her."

When the pictures went up on social media, it became clear that the only family member not invited was my frail husband: DH's son and DIL were there, as was his daughter's best friend. When he later asked his daughter why he'd not been invited it was "Oh. I didn't think you'd want to go."

When I later told the son that his dad hadn't been invited (after DH had snapped when something was said about the birthday weekend) his son looked genuinely shocked: "I didn't know Dad wasn't invited."

I'm convinced that the daughter didn't want to have to make accommodations for my husband's disabilities. (He had mobility problems meaning that I had to help him dress and to cut up his food for him.)

I'm wondering whether the the OP's GD has now decided that she doesn't want to have to allow for the needs of an elderly family member?

Thats really sad!

However, I think in this case it’s not a factor because it’s me that looks after him! (And he’s pretty mobile in short bursts: just needs to be told where the steps & the handrails are).

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YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 14:33

Itwasallyellow2 · 16/09/2026 14:19

Our students call people like this Gradzillas. Maybe there’s a reason for her reacting this way, maybe not. I had a student who felt embarrassed by her parents so didn’t invite them to the ceremony as she didn’t want her friends (many of whom were from very privileged backgrounds) to see them. I’m not saying that’s the same for you OP but, in my experience, young people can be very shallow and don’t always appreciate the value of family.

Still should have called to say they didn't want the accommodation in time for it to be cancelled. I was 23 when I graduated the first time and I was more than happy to have my mum and gran there

Sunloungerhogger · 16/09/2026 14:33

Just came on to say that you and your DH sound lovely and loving grandparents (what I wouldn’t give to still have my lovely grandparents!). I hope whatever is up with your granddaughter gets resolved and she stops being silly / starts communicating properly (and that you get to go to her graduation).

When I graduated (a very very long time ago) I only had one remaining grandparent, but this thread has reminded me how lucky I am that my grandma was able to come to my graduation.

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:39

Seeline · 16/09/2026 09:04

I think there is more to this, and would love to hear the story from the GDs side.
There is a huge back story - desertion by Dad, being made homeless, Granny and Grandad separated, no real connection between GDs family and Dad's family for a while.
When did 'step' granny come in the scene?
OP you sound as though you are trying to force a family relationship. Your DIL probably feels duty bound to try and facilitate that relationship for her DCs, but maybe the DCs aren't as keen. It still sounds as though GD has been rather railroaded into what is to happen in what should be her day. I think you maybe need to step back a bit.

I’m sure there is, though by definition I don’t know! (Thats what communication is for).

I first met GD#1 when she was 3 & GD#2 had just been born. We were living in the Middle East at the time & just back in London for the winter break.

I didn’t really have expectations one way or the other - it’s all new to me. So it’s mostly been a bonus.

We moved back to the UK when they were 5 & 2 & although we live a way off, saw them regularly when the parents were still together.

I don’t really know what you mean by “force a family relationship” though.

There is a family relationship, whether we like it or not!

It’s a question of how one manages it.

Maybe I should add that until SS scarpered, DiL had never been the only adult in the house - she grew up in a large extended family in another country - & was extremely frightened & glad to have someone else there from time to time.

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ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:43

Millytante · 15/09/2026 20:19

Perfect. (Not a bit stiff, but appropriately matter of fact)
I’m appalled you have had to do it, as it is distressing for you. Still, I’m really pleased you have told them you will both be having a jolly old jaunt to Oxford regardless, and that’s that.

Imagine how the female dons in DLS’ Gaudy Night would have regarded such behaviour.
Still, I’m horribly fascinated, and hope young Rumpola will hurry up and explain herself.

Just so long as it’s not Inspector Morse!

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YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 14:49

Sunloungerhogger · 16/09/2026 14:33

Just came on to say that you and your DH sound lovely and loving grandparents (what I wouldn’t give to still have my lovely grandparents!). I hope whatever is up with your granddaughter gets resolved and she stops being silly / starts communicating properly (and that you get to go to her graduation).

When I graduated (a very very long time ago) I only had one remaining grandparent, but this thread has reminded me how lucky I am that my grandma was able to come to my graduation.

Me too. My grandpa died when I was 9 and my other gran died 3 months before I was born. I don't see my dad's side of the family so I only ever had one set of grandparents involved in my life after my dad's mum died (that was my dad's choice ).

I was glad to have my mum and gran there. I had to pay for tickets for my mum and brother last year -27 quid each and it's gone up for this year so I do understand that some people even if they do get large allocations of tickets might not want to use them all.

When I graduated the first time -a long time ago, robe hire was free and so was bringing guests along.

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:51

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 16/09/2026 08:28

@ProfessoressaSazzasez - about your (step) grand-daughter's results, I remember back in the day when I was a student, the results of Oxford University Finals were published in The Times. (I particularly remember this as I had to go to Victoria Station to get the first edition with, and later hold the head of, a friend the night her results came out and she had celebrated them not too wisely, but well!) I presume this no longer happens (it was 50 years ago and I've lived away from England for decades now, so I don't know!
I hope it all works out well and turns out to be a misunderstanding, easily rectified.

We did look to see if we could find them online while we were waiting to hear, but apparently they no longer put them online.

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YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 14:53

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:51

We did look to see if we could find them online while we were waiting to hear, but apparently they no longer put them online.

Mine went in a graduation booklet last year. They've not been printed in the press here for decades. They used to go in the Glasgow Herald.

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:54

Nannyof2boys · 16/09/2026 06:09

Hang on, she's telling you what to wear?????
That'd be a no from me!
What's this trend these days of people dictating what others wear to occasions?
And to not be happy with a 2.1 in law shouts super brat! Law is a hard subject. My daughter got a 2.1 in law and was so over the moon I didn't think she'd touch ground again.
Do yourself and your husband a favour and save yourselves the hassle of travelling to this ungrateful spoiled brats day.
And saying her mum might not get a day off says to me that the brat wants nobody there. Graduation date is known well in advance so days off can be booked & other arrangements made
I work at a University and on graduation week I see kids who are genuinely happy and excited for their future and celebrating with their loved ones then I see divas mostly girls who treat the occasion like a huge publicity thing for their social media regardless of the grade they got
Im Sorry for the way you have been treated but step back

When we went for a formal dinner at her college we asked about dress code, & the context of this conversation was the graduation photos… it’s easy: black!

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ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 15:08

Seeline · 16/09/2026 12:17

It isn't clear that they were clearly invited to the graduation by the GD.

OP only says that "OH & I both understood we were being asked to book the accommodation for the 5 of us & travel together". That isn't a clear instruction from the GD.

To be perfectly clear: we understood we were being invited to be there & to book accommodation.

I asked several (i cant remember exactly how many: 3 or 4) clarifying questions as to who the accommodation would include: GD2 was intending to take an unofficial day off school; DiL was asking for the day off work; GD1 would not be staying in her college so would need accommodation.

We also clarified with them about train tickets as OH & I would be travelling via London, & talked about whether travelling from Paddington or Marylebone was better.

And when I said “shall I book?” & they said “yes”, that’s what we understood, otherwise I wouldn’t have.

it’s what we thought until the email from GD1.

The fact we understood it obviously doesn’t necessarily mean we were right! Or that things can’t change.

Not sure how much clearer you’d like it to be - but of course being clear doesn’t mean being right.

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ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 15:12

YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 09:35

And what about the grandad who isn't a "step" grandad as you put it

Who is that?

OH is the grandfather. (DiL’s father is no longer with us).

OH’s ex-wife (the grandmother) had a number of subsequent husbands, though the girls only met one of them briefly.

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YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 15:18

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 15:12

Who is that?

OH is the grandfather. (DiL’s father is no longer with us).

OH’s ex-wife (the grandmother) had a number of subsequent husbands, though the girls only met one of them briefly.

I was referring to a post where someone called you step grandma. My point was that the grandad in this situation isn't being treated well either. It wasn't a dig at either of you.

WearyAuldWumman · 16/09/2026 15:21

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 14:27

Thats really sad!

However, I think in this case it’s not a factor because it’s me that looks after him! (And he’s pretty mobile in short bursts: just needs to be told where the steps & the handrails are).

That’s good.

Yes, I looked after DH. He learned to walk again after his stroke, but never regained full feeling or the use of his left hand.

His eyesight wasn’t good, so having to point out steps and so on was the usual for us.

I hope you get things sorted out.

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 15:28

YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 15:18

I was referring to a post where someone called you step grandma. My point was that the grandad in this situation isn't being treated well either. It wasn't a dig at either of you.

I didn’t mean it to sound as if I thought it was a dig (or not a dig from you, at any rate)

I’m slightly baffled at the family tree arachaeology going on, plus I’d just read a couple of posts where the shes & the hers made it impossible to know who was behaving badly to whom…

It is indeed a complicated tale & that’s before you get unto real (deceased) grandma’s mysterious backstory which we may never unravel now…

edited to get my digs & dogs sorted.

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AprilMizzel · 16/09/2026 15:34

And when I said “shall I book?” & they said “yes”, that’s what we understood, otherwise I wouldn’t have.

If it was this clear - not sure why you used phrasing we understood ie assumptions were made rather than we all agreed that we would book- but if it really was that clear - this is not miscommunication at all - it's just straight up rudeness from DGC and at this stage DIL.

I will book followed by wtf have you booked reponse - is frankly bizzare.

I do not know what you have done to upset her to this extent - perceived cristism of boyfriend degree grade something else or nothing at all but exist- but this level of rudness after a clearly agreed step followed by silence and none reponse to messages that's not looking good for an ongoing relationship but I can't see any other option but to keep trying to talk to them.

Hopefully at some point DIL or DGC will get in touch or respond to you and have some sort of explination - but right now none of this makes any kind of sense - and she just looks beyond rude.

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 16/09/2026 15:41

AprilMizzel · 16/09/2026 15:34

And when I said “shall I book?” & they said “yes”, that’s what we understood, otherwise I wouldn’t have.

If it was this clear - not sure why you used phrasing we understood ie assumptions were made rather than we all agreed that we would book- but if it really was that clear - this is not miscommunication at all - it's just straight up rudeness from DGC and at this stage DIL.

I will book followed by wtf have you booked reponse - is frankly bizzare.

I do not know what you have done to upset her to this extent - perceived cristism of boyfriend degree grade something else or nothing at all but exist- but this level of rudness after a clearly agreed step followed by silence and none reponse to messages that's not looking good for an ongoing relationship but I can't see any other option but to keep trying to talk to them.

Hopefully at some point DIL or DGC will get in touch or respond to you and have some sort of explination - but right now none of this makes any kind of sense - and she just looks beyond rude.

Edited

Well: I agree.

This is why we were upset & taken aback.

I said “we understood” because I’m open to the possibility that we understood wrong.

Plus shocked & have been racking our joint memories as to what was actually said when & by whom.

I’ve relaxed a bit now.

But… in another sense it doesn’t much matter, or only matters if one is desperate to be in the right.

What matters is what the situation is now & what we do next.

And we’ve decided, & tried to communicate it as clearly as possible.

Up to them what they decide, of course.

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MeetMeOnTheCorner · 16/09/2026 18:00

@YourGoldLurker The Oxford university web site makes it clear that each graduate can invite 2 people only. They get booking info in the Michaelmas term. So that’s before Christmas 2025. She must have booked 2 tickets then or possibly not bothered. She’s almost certainly not got 4 and it also begs the question as to where GDG is living and how she’s getting to Oxford if she’s graduated last summer. Is she on benefits and doing charity work in Oxford? It seems disorganised and very odd. However 2 guests at the Sheldonian is what grads get and either she’s got 2 tickets or she hasn’t.

YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 18:06

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 16/09/2026 18:00

@YourGoldLurker The Oxford university web site makes it clear that each graduate can invite 2 people only. They get booking info in the Michaelmas term. So that’s before Christmas 2025. She must have booked 2 tickets then or possibly not bothered. She’s almost certainly not got 4 and it also begs the question as to where GDG is living and how she’s getting to Oxford if she’s graduated last summer. Is she on benefits and doing charity work in Oxford? It seems disorganised and very odd. However 2 guests at the Sheldonian is what grads get and either she’s got 2 tickets or she hasn’t.

She didn't graduate last summer by the sounds of it. This summer. I'm not an Oxford grad. I did my last degree at the ou and we only got booking info after we got our final results. However surely other family could go for a meal if they couldn't see the ceremony.

YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 18:13

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 16/09/2026 18:00

@YourGoldLurker The Oxford university web site makes it clear that each graduate can invite 2 people only. They get booking info in the Michaelmas term. So that’s before Christmas 2025. She must have booked 2 tickets then or possibly not bothered. She’s almost certainly not got 4 and it also begs the question as to where GDG is living and how she’s getting to Oxford if she’s graduated last summer. Is she on benefits and doing charity work in Oxford? It seems disorganised and very odd. However 2 guests at the Sheldonian is what grads get and either she’s got 2 tickets or she hasn’t.

Probably more likely that she's moved back home. If she is on benefits and doing voluntary work fair enough. Probably not that unusual. If someone is struggling to find work then it makes sense to go on UC till a job or a Masters place comes up.

Molecule · 16/09/2026 18:15

My dd graduated from Oxford and got four tickets to the graduation. Don’t know how or why, but I was thankful as it diluted my exposure to exh. This was 2022.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 16/09/2026 19:38

@YourGoldLurker Very few Oxford law grads do this or need to do this. They are some of the most driven regarding careers and very successful in what they do. There’s just something odd here. The web site says 2 tickets. It gives links to how to view the ceremony remotely.

Nettie1964 · 16/09/2026 20:17

Shes a brat, ignoring your calls is extremely rude. Sorry you sound lovely.

YourGoldLurker · 16/09/2026 23:56

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 16/09/2026 19:38

@YourGoldLurker Very few Oxford law grads do this or need to do this. They are some of the most driven regarding careers and very successful in what they do. There’s just something odd here. The web site says 2 tickets. It gives links to how to view the ceremony remotely.

She's only just graduated and surely she can choose the career path that interests her most.

Quitelikeit · 17/09/2026 02:41

Following

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 17/09/2026 08:15

@YourGoldLurker You don’t understand how law careers work I assume. Very very few law grads from Oxford will be doing next to nothing after their degree because the brightest and the best don’t need to. Many lawyers do voluntary work whilst they continue with their professional or academic education but the further training is expensive and lengthy and just doing a bit of volunteering with no career path established is unusual for an Oxford grad. It’s the best opportunity to get a superb career but doing very little for a year isn’t very dynamic.

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