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Granddaughter’s rage over graduation plans.

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ProfessoressaSazzasez · 14/09/2026 19:59

A few weeks ago OH (80, frail) & I met up with his daughter-in-law & grandkids to give GK#1 a 21st birthday gift & congratulate her on her law degree. I know she was disappointed to “only” have got a 2:1 but it’s from a very famous university & bloody good.

They have had their struggles: their Dad (my stepson) went AWOL from parenthood ten years ago, they were illegally evicted & homeless.
We are very proud of them.

GK invited us to her graduation (on a Friday), we talked about planning the trip & what she wanted us to wear for the photos, & DiL getting a day of work, GK#2 taking the day off school to be there.
OH & I both understood we were being asked to book the accommodation for the 5 of us & travel together.

So I booked us a flat for 2 nights - Thursday & Friday - & forwarded the confirmation asking when we could go up on the Thursday so I could book train tickets.

No reply.

Left a voicemail in case they’d missed the email.

Emailed again.

Got a scolding reply from GK#1 telling me it’s HER big day and she’s shocked, SHOCKED I booked accommodation (after we both understood we were being asked to, & checking with her whether she’d need it too) & complaining her mum is finding it hard to get time off from work (which I do not think I can be blamed for).

So I have no idea what’s going on.

i replied that of course it’s her big day & up to her who she has there, that she might forgive me if I misunderstood what she wanted, & pointed out that it’s too late to cancel the booking, but she’s welcome to use the accommodation if she wants.

I said if she wanted her granddad there she should let us know.

It’s a trek for us to get there, & not cheap: OH is blind & i cant drive, so the earlier we can book train tickets the better.

Silence since then.

What to do?

Am I unreasonable to feel rather hurt by this?

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summertree1 · 23/09/2026 16:48

Did you ever get a response OP?

vanillapods · 23/09/2026 16:17

Was also hoping for update and that everything resolved amicably.

momtoboys · 22/09/2026 21:57

Any update, Professor?

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 18/09/2026 00:09

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Nannyof2boys · 17/09/2026 23:37

Thegirlwhowent · 16/09/2026 08:02

@Nannyof2boys I agree about being told what to wear. I don't go to many weddings, funerals etc so have only just discovered that people nowadays dictate what they want guests to wear. I think it's self-centered and rude, and it makes me want to do the exact opposite - or not go at all!

Yes its because people use these occasions to spotlight their social media profiles not because they want to actually get married
People should refuse to go

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 20:49

FallsFarFromTheTree · 17/09/2026 20:40

@ProfessoressaSazzasez I'm afraid I think you should now ask to get this thread deleted. There's now a lot of identifying detail. It would be terrible terrible terrible if it ever came back to GD.

I know a lot of people here are a bit invested, and have been helpful, so you may feel you owe them updates. You don't. Your primary duty is to your family.

My 2p to end with is that, if GD still hasn't replied, I think she hasn't because she's so humiliated by her own behaviour. I suggest you message her privately, just her, and tell her that you love her. I know you do.

Best wishes for the ceremony, and for the future of your lovely if sometimes imperfect family.

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I don't agree. The GD has caused this and she has every right to say how she feels

FallsFarFromTheTree · 17/09/2026 20:40

@ProfessoressaSazzasez I'm afraid I think you should now ask to get this thread deleted. There's now a lot of identifying detail. It would be terrible terrible terrible if it ever came back to GD.

I know a lot of people here are a bit invested, and have been helpful, so you may feel you owe them updates. You don't. Your primary duty is to your family.

My 2p to end with is that, if GD still hasn't replied, I think she hasn't because she's so humiliated by her own behaviour. I suggest you message her privately, just her, and tell her that you love her. I know you do.

Best wishes for the ceremony, and for the future of your lovely if sometimes imperfect family.

ChristmasStars · 17/09/2026 14:17

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 17/09/2026 11:06

Yes.

Have they still not replied to you at all?

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 12:38

FairCat · 17/09/2026 12:11

@YourGoldLurker

"I personally think I was capable of a first on my last degree but it would have involved a lot more study and I was busy enough as it was."

Illustrates the recruiters thinking well, you could have whipped yourself to a first but took a balanced view, a key attribute for resilient and productive staff. I know an experienced recruiter who always declines CVs with a first because of repeated poor outcomes in the past.

Be proud of your 2:1, it's a great achievement.

I finished my second year in hospital with a broken leg that had to be operated on -thankfully my degree was online or I wouldn't have been able to continue -I was under enough stress at that point and didn't see the point of putting myself under more.

I am proud of it. Thank you

FairCat · 17/09/2026 12:11

@YourGoldLurker

"I personally think I was capable of a first on my last degree but it would have involved a lot more study and I was busy enough as it was."

Illustrates the recruiters thinking well, you could have whipped yourself to a first but took a balanced view, a key attribute for resilient and productive staff. I know an experienced recruiter who always declines CVs with a first because of repeated poor outcomes in the past.

Be proud of your 2:1, it's a great achievement.

TheSquareMile · 17/09/2026 11:38

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 17/09/2026 11:06

Yes.

@ProfessoressaSazzasez

Have you heard from her, OP?

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 11:31

FairCat · 17/09/2026 09:12

Not the main issue but it's a bit weird to be disappointed with a 2:1, they call it 'the perfect 2:1' for a reason.

Recruiters often favour a 2:1 over a first because experience shows candidates with firsts are less likely to be well rounded people who will fit into a team environment. That's obviously a generalisation which isn't true for everyone, but there's more than a grain of truth in it

Personally I can understand people being disappointed. I think there's a lot of outside noise particularly on forums. Go on Reddit and it's full of people stressing about how to get a first.

I personally would have loved a first on my last degree but I found it tough enough as it was. By the time I got to third year any pass would have done me and when I got the 2:1 I was very happy. I'm not in a situation though where I'm at the start of my career not have I ever graduated from a prestigious university although one post grad I did is very well respected in it's field.

I personally think I was capable of a first on my last degree but it would have involved a lot more study and I was busy enough as it was.

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 17/09/2026 11:06

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 11:04

The graduation is next week yes ?

Yes.

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YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 11:04

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 17/09/2026 11:01

She did!

Like I say she’s a perfectionist. Which is a tough row to hoe as we are all imperfect.

i think she’s a bit unsure what to do next - I do understand that limbo feeling at this stage.

She’s back home living with her Mum & volunteering (quite a common thing for new graduates, & it’s in an area close to her interests) & was talking about applying for an MA / applying to work as a parliamentary assistant to an MP.

Long term, before she got to Oxford, she told OH she wanted to work at the UN! Not sure that’s still her idea.

I think she’d make quite a good barrister, personally: she’s very competitive, but I don’t know how she’d handle losing.

The graduation is next week yes ?

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 17/09/2026 11:01

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 08:56

According to the Op the granddaughter knew the result at the time of discussing the ceremony

She did!

Like I say she’s a perfectionist. Which is a tough row to hoe as we are all imperfect.

i think she’s a bit unsure what to do next - I do understand that limbo feeling at this stage.

She’s back home living with her Mum & volunteering (quite a common thing for new graduates, & it’s in an area close to her interests) & was talking about applying for an MA / applying to work as a parliamentary assistant to an MP.

Long term, before she got to Oxford, she told OH she wanted to work at the UN! Not sure that’s still her idea.

I think she’d make quite a good barrister, personally: she’s very competitive, but I don’t know how she’d handle losing.

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Tinkalinkalink · 17/09/2026 09:16

ProfessoressaSazzasez · 14/09/2026 20:58

She’s our shit!

Absolutely love this! Just go anyway xx

FairCat · 17/09/2026 09:12

Not the main issue but it's a bit weird to be disappointed with a 2:1, they call it 'the perfect 2:1' for a reason.

Recruiters often favour a 2:1 over a first because experience shows candidates with firsts are less likely to be well rounded people who will fit into a team environment. That's obviously a generalisation which isn't true for everyone, but there's more than a grain of truth in it

Ormally · 17/09/2026 09:06

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 08:56

According to the Op the granddaughter knew the result at the time of discussing the ceremony

Fair enough.

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 08:56

Ormally · 17/09/2026 08:51

Don't know, but the initial conversation might have been after she finished finals and before she knew her result or current state of work.

According to the Op the granddaughter knew the result at the time of discussing the ceremony

Ormally · 17/09/2026 08:51

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 08:50

If this is actually the case then why go through the motions of asking extended family to go to the graduation and looking to book accommodation.

Don't know, but the initial conversation might have been after she finished finals and before she knew her result or current state of work.

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 08:50

Ormally · 17/09/2026 08:44

This is a rather random query, and it doesn't sound as if you will get an answer for it, but: do you know that she has actually accepted to go to the ceremony? I am wondering if this might be behind it, especially if she is disappointed with her result.

I got a degree from the same place but I graduated in absentia because I went straight to work abroad after completing the year and could not afford to get back, or probably to be allowed more than one day to graduate because of the protocol around that organisation's probation. So I just got my degree certificate sent to me. The job meant everything to me (I was shafted by it, of course, but my memory is that you are more desperate to get the foot on the ladder at that time in life, and with the first step into law especially, it is probably 100 times more dog-eat-dog. I have known many get firsts for a degree but not be able to get into chambers at the entry level when young, and it has affected them).

I am so very sorry she has such a self-centred presentation, and I think that a word to someone like her immediate family would be appropriate as to how she is coming over. But I think inside, she will also be driven and quite anxious, a bit rabbit-in-headlights, and it may take the excitement and celebration of achievement right out of coming up to the graduation day.

If this is actually the case then why go through the motions of asking extended family to go to the graduation and looking to book accommodation.

Ormally · 17/09/2026 08:44

This is a rather random query, and it doesn't sound as if you will get an answer for it, but: do you know that she has actually accepted to go to the ceremony? I am wondering if this might be behind it, especially if she is disappointed with her result.

I got a degree from the same place but I graduated in absentia because I went straight to work abroad after completing the year and could not afford to get back, or probably to be allowed more than one day to graduate because of the protocol around that organisation's probation. So I just got my degree certificate sent to me. The job meant everything to me (I was shafted by it, of course, but my memory is that you are more desperate to get the foot on the ladder at that time in life, and with the first step into law especially, it is probably 100 times more dog-eat-dog. I have known many get firsts for a degree but not be able to get into chambers at the entry level when young, and it has affected them).

I am so very sorry she has such a self-centred presentation, and I think that a word to someone like her immediate family would be appropriate as to how she is coming over. But I think inside, she will also be driven and quite anxious, a bit rabbit-in-headlights, and it may take the excitement and celebration of achievement right out of coming up to the graduation day.

YourGoldLurker · 17/09/2026 08:40

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 17/09/2026 08:15

@YourGoldLurker You don’t understand how law careers work I assume. Very very few law grads from Oxford will be doing next to nothing after their degree because the brightest and the best don’t need to. Many lawyers do voluntary work whilst they continue with their professional or academic education but the further training is expensive and lengthy and just doing a bit of volunteering with no career path established is unusual for an Oxford grad. It’s the best opportunity to get a superb career but doing very little for a year isn’t very dynamic.

I was under the assumption that she finished her degree in June this year. The OP also said that she's looking to work as a parliamentary researcher.

With respect -why would I not know the paths some people take after they graduate with a law degree ?

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 17/09/2026 08:15

@YourGoldLurker You don’t understand how law careers work I assume. Very very few law grads from Oxford will be doing next to nothing after their degree because the brightest and the best don’t need to. Many lawyers do voluntary work whilst they continue with their professional or academic education but the further training is expensive and lengthy and just doing a bit of volunteering with no career path established is unusual for an Oxford grad. It’s the best opportunity to get a superb career but doing very little for a year isn’t very dynamic.

Quitelikeit · 17/09/2026 02:41

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