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AIBU to want distance from friends who trigger heavy drinking?

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damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 13:59

Dh and I occasionally, roughly once a month, spend time with a large group of friends who all drink a lot. We used to hang out with them more before we moved out of London.

I want to stop drinking, maybe not fully as I do enjoy a pint or two and a good chat down the pub, but certainly want to quit drinking as much as I end up doing when we hang out with this group. I always feel terrible the next day, crying, with awful hanxiety. It always ruins the rest of my weekend, the following week, and makes both me and dh kind of moody for days thereafter which increases the risk of petty/unnecessary arguments and bickering in the week that follows.

Dh is understanding about me wanting to drink less but also doesn’t really want to step back from the group in the same way I do. He also ends up drinking a lot, even when he expresses to me beforehand that he doesn’t want to let it spiral. This also means we’re wasting hundreds of pounds on alcohol every month…

I read on the internet that sometimes addiction is not about seeking out the vice (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, whatever it may be) but that it sometimes is driven by environmental triggers, so if you find yourself in certain environments you can’t stop yourself/your brain finds ways to justify indulging even though you don’t really want to do it/you’ve been “behaving” for weeks/months. I think that’s how it feels when we spend time with them. When we’re not around this group we have a very normal and healthy relationship with alcohol and don’t smoke at all.

Has anybody been through something similar? How did you navigate this?

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cordeliavorkosigan · 13/09/2026 15:21

I think a problem with going with alcohol free alternatives is that you may still spend £100s because of buying rounds and the cost of those alternatives.
But at least you'd fix the hangover issues so that's half the problem solved.
Maybe skip every other one and if it's a good friend see them for a birthday lunch, cake or coffee or something else instead. Solves half the problem if it's only every other month, and then also alternate soft drinks or leave earlier before you've had the last 2 that really put you into full on hangover?

pastadish · 13/09/2026 15:21

You can go and not drink as much. Unless they are monitoring your drinking and handing you shots the you can still have a drink but not as much so you’re suffering afterwards.
This is what I do (now!) too many hangovers which take me too long to get over so I moderate my drinking and don’t announce to anyone what I’m doing. They can still drink what they like and none notices

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 15:24

cordeliavorkosigan · 13/09/2026 15:21

I think a problem with going with alcohol free alternatives is that you may still spend £100s because of buying rounds and the cost of those alternatives.
But at least you'd fix the hangover issues so that's half the problem solved.
Maybe skip every other one and if it's a good friend see them for a birthday lunch, cake or coffee or something else instead. Solves half the problem if it's only every other month, and then also alternate soft drinks or leave earlier before you've had the last 2 that really put you into full on hangover?

Thanks, that’s really helpful analysis and suggestions. Will try!

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downtoearththensinksthesun · 13/09/2026 15:34

This is down to you and your inability to control your drinking in a given environment. It's not the actual environment or situation. As you say, your drinking inhibitions are lowered so you say yes...that's on you.

I’ll be halfway through my drink and someone else is finished with theirs and says i’m going to the bar do you want another one? And as I’ve already started drinking inhibitions are lowered and judgement is affected and so ofc I just end up saying yes. It’s almost like an out of body experience tbh

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 15:45

downtoearththensinksthesun · 13/09/2026 15:34

This is down to you and your inability to control your drinking in a given environment. It's not the actual environment or situation. As you say, your drinking inhibitions are lowered so you say yes...that's on you.

I’ll be halfway through my drink and someone else is finished with theirs and says i’m going to the bar do you want another one? And as I’ve already started drinking inhibitions are lowered and judgement is affected and so ofc I just end up saying yes. It’s almost like an out of body experience tbh

This is down to you and your inability to control your drinking in a given environment. It's not the actual environment or situation.

these two sentences are contradictory

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mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 15:50

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 15:13

It’s not about whether it’s socially acceptable? It’s about it being a difficult environment to stop myself. Can’t believe the number of comments implying i’m saying “they made me do it”. I’m not saying that at all!

If something (anything) triggers you to drink to drink more than you want to and you are not in control of your drinking, then you have an alcohol problem. You need to seek help for your alcohol problem, and temporarily not seeing these friends may well be part of your recovery.

Whilst I understand you aren't suggesting they make you drink, you are very much framing this that them, or going out with them, is the problem. It's not the problem. The problem is that you are unable to stay in control of your alcohol intake. You need to seek treatment for the root cause of your problem, your lack of control around alcohol, not focus on what your friends are doing.

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 15:54

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 15:50

If something (anything) triggers you to drink to drink more than you want to and you are not in control of your drinking, then you have an alcohol problem. You need to seek help for your alcohol problem, and temporarily not seeing these friends may well be part of your recovery.

Whilst I understand you aren't suggesting they make you drink, you are very much framing this that them, or going out with them, is the problem. It's not the problem. The problem is that you are unable to stay in control of your alcohol intake. You need to seek treatment for the root cause of your problem, your lack of control around alcohol, not focus on what your friends are doing.

Edited

I completely agree that it’s an alcohol problem of sorts.

Can you explain why neither DH nor I have this problem with drinking with any other friends?

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mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 15:58

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 15:45

This is down to you and your inability to control your drinking in a given environment. It's not the actual environment or situation.

these two sentences are contradictory

Nope, it makes perfect sense (and cross posted with my similar response).

If you cannot stay in control of your alcohol intake in any situation, you have an alcohol problem. That is where the problem lies, not with the particular environment.

People without an alcohol problem can stay in control of their drinking, regardless of the environment they are in. You cannot do that, do you need to deal with the underlying issue, which is your problem with alcohol.

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 16:00

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 15:54

I completely agree that it’s an alcohol problem of sorts.

Can you explain why neither DH nor I have this problem with drinking with any other friends?

No idea. See an alcohol counsellor for advice.

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:01

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 15:58

Nope, it makes perfect sense (and cross posted with my similar response).

If you cannot stay in control of your alcohol intake in any situation, you have an alcohol problem. That is where the problem lies, not with the particular environment.

People without an alcohol problem can stay in control of their drinking, regardless of the environment they are in. You cannot do that, do you need to deal with the underlying issue, which is your problem with alcohol.

Edited

I disagree with you. If there is only ever one situation across all situations where it’s a problem then it’s a bit daft to deny the situation itself is a problem. There can be more than one problem at any one time.

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jackstini · 13/09/2026 16:02

Have you told these friends you want to cut down?

If they are good friends, they will not keep offering more drinks and maybe you and your DH just stay in a round by yourself

I have a friend who decided to cut down massively - but before our next night out she told us all that was the plan and asked us to support her decision.

And we’re not dicks, so we did!

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:03

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 16:00

No idea. See an alcohol counsellor for advice.

Great really helpful interaction, thanks!

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damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:08

jackstini · 13/09/2026 16:02

Have you told these friends you want to cut down?

If they are good friends, they will not keep offering more drinks and maybe you and your DH just stay in a round by yourself

I have a friend who decided to cut down massively - but before our next night out she told us all that was the plan and asked us to support her decision.

And we’re not dicks, so we did!

I might try this. Thank you.

We have a friend (in that group) who recently said she was going to take a break because it had got out of hand and was going to start AA too, and over the summer although people seemed to be trying to be supportive once they started drinking themselves, they’d start making jokes and suggest to her that if she just had one it wouldn’t be the end of the world

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Blindoptimism · 13/09/2026 16:11

I have a similar issue and I’m not sure people are quite getting it. I want to cut down - maybe cut out - booze. With many of my friends it will be fine, it has been before if I’ve not drunk alcohol, they’ve taken the piss slightly re Dry January but fine. There are other situations I know I’ll find a bit more awkward, and likely would cut a bit shorter - work related things, big socials with lots of people I don’t know, where booze can make it flow more easily. But there is one couple who I really love but I find it soo hard to see them without drinking, and am just dreading how to navigate the friendship if I do quit. I’ve tried many of the things people suggest - arranging walks rather than pub nights etc - but it never really gets anywhere. I think they probably have some issues of their own, but any attempt to make it a less boozy evening seems to fail. As a result I see them less, but it does feel like a shame. If I had iron willpower or no issue with drink it would be different, I’m sure, but I do think some groups are more difficult to manage. So no specific advice but you have my sympathy! I think the advice to reduce seeing them so it’s not every month is a good start

Awkwardisfunny · 13/09/2026 16:18

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 13:59

Dh and I occasionally, roughly once a month, spend time with a large group of friends who all drink a lot. We used to hang out with them more before we moved out of London.

I want to stop drinking, maybe not fully as I do enjoy a pint or two and a good chat down the pub, but certainly want to quit drinking as much as I end up doing when we hang out with this group. I always feel terrible the next day, crying, with awful hanxiety. It always ruins the rest of my weekend, the following week, and makes both me and dh kind of moody for days thereafter which increases the risk of petty/unnecessary arguments and bickering in the week that follows.

Dh is understanding about me wanting to drink less but also doesn’t really want to step back from the group in the same way I do. He also ends up drinking a lot, even when he expresses to me beforehand that he doesn’t want to let it spiral. This also means we’re wasting hundreds of pounds on alcohol every month…

I read on the internet that sometimes addiction is not about seeking out the vice (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, whatever it may be) but that it sometimes is driven by environmental triggers, so if you find yourself in certain environments you can’t stop yourself/your brain finds ways to justify indulging even though you don’t really want to do it/you’ve been “behaving” for weeks/months. I think that’s how it feels when we spend time with them. When we’re not around this group we have a very normal and healthy relationship with alcohol and don’t smoke at all.

Has anybody been through something similar? How did you navigate this?

Do whatever is best for you - I just wouldn't go anymore but not try to stop my partner. And hope that your partner realises when you're not there, that he also doesn't enjoy it as much.

It's worth trying to befriend another group of people and meet with them - then slowly integrate with your partner and let him choose. Because at the minute, his choice is: the existing group or no friends. And if he isn't as far along as you then it may fall to you to lead the way - good luck with that and I hope you manage it. It's definitely the healthier option from what you've described.

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:22

Awkwardisfunny · 13/09/2026 16:18

Do whatever is best for you - I just wouldn't go anymore but not try to stop my partner. And hope that your partner realises when you're not there, that he also doesn't enjoy it as much.

It's worth trying to befriend another group of people and meet with them - then slowly integrate with your partner and let him choose. Because at the minute, his choice is: the existing group or no friends. And if he isn't as far along as you then it may fall to you to lead the way - good luck with that and I hope you manage it. It's definitely the healthier option from what you've described.

Thanks for your kind post. I just want to clarify (for anyone else that might read this) that we do have many other friends but no other large group (20+) of friends.

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JoanOgden · 13/09/2026 16:25

I understand this scenario exactly. In the end I developed a detailed strategy. For me this was:

  1. Always eat something and drink a large glass of water before you join them. Starting off dehydrated and with an empty stomach will make you drink more and feel worse.
  1. Arrive a bit later than the others so you miss the first round (especially if it's likely to involve cocktails).
  1. When it's your round, order a 0% drink if possible, or at least a small glass of wine or single shot G&T. Agree with your DH you'll do this for each other.
  1. Eat something and have a glass of water on the go at all times.
  1. Always say no to shots.
  1. Go home when you get bored.

You can do this OP! I actually don't see those friends any more as I got bored of their drink obsession, so the same may happen to you.

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 16:26

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:03

Great really helpful interaction, thanks!

Well you asked me. I'm not a qualified alcohol counsellor, so I can't answer that question.

I do know, that if you cannot stay in control of your drinking, you need professional advice to address that. Simply staying away doesn't resolve the underlying problem long term, because throughout your life, if you are not in control of your alcohol intake, you will come across a multitude of triggers and you've only dealt with the symptom, not the cause.

Dragonfly97 · 13/09/2026 16:27

I took a step back from a group of friends for the same reason OP; i was in my early 30s and woke up one New Year's Day feeling terrible, took all day to recover, plus I begrudged the money wasted on alcohol.

I know New Year's Eve is a special occasion, but the hard drinking friends were at it every weekend, and if I wanted to stay off the booze and have a soft drink, they got quite aggressive, as if my choice reflected badly on them.

30 years later they still drink heavily, and I just think of the money wasted and the damage to their health. One has a heart condition and I'm convinced it's from her heavy drinking. I didn't want to end up like that, with the aim of any night out was to get absolutely plastered, so I just stopped going.

Thewalrusandthecarpenter · 13/09/2026 16:28

That sounds really difficult to navigate (sorry to state the obvious). Unfortunately the only way to guarantee not getting drunk is to avoid these gatherings. It doesn’t sound as if you have a problem in general, but that your drinking habits and behaviour around this specific group of people are so firmly entrenched that you slide back into them, however good your intentions, and fighting it is a losing battle.

Their attitude towards AA doesn’t sound great, either - we often have people join AA meetings who recognise old drinking friends from years gone by - which is quite funny (for them) when they realise why they dropped out and where they’ve been.

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:33

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 16:26

Well you asked me. I'm not a qualified alcohol counsellor, so I can't answer that question.

I do know, that if you cannot stay in control of your drinking, you need professional advice to address that. Simply staying away doesn't resolve the underlying problem long term, because throughout your life, if you are not in control of your alcohol intake, you will come across a multitude of triggers and you've only dealt with the symptom, not the cause.

Edited

I thanked you for your interaction, no need to get defensive about it. And to repeat, again, there is only ever one environment that triggers to this behaviour and it is spending time in this particular group.

Thanks again for your contribution.

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NancyThompson · 13/09/2026 16:38

Honestly when I stopped drinking I lost a whole group of friends. Retained a few individually, the ones that I guess were actually friends.

damnbeaver · 13/09/2026 16:39

Dragonfly97 · 13/09/2026 16:27

I took a step back from a group of friends for the same reason OP; i was in my early 30s and woke up one New Year's Day feeling terrible, took all day to recover, plus I begrudged the money wasted on alcohol.

I know New Year's Eve is a special occasion, but the hard drinking friends were at it every weekend, and if I wanted to stay off the booze and have a soft drink, they got quite aggressive, as if my choice reflected badly on them.

30 years later they still drink heavily, and I just think of the money wasted and the damage to their health. One has a heart condition and I'm convinced it's from her heavy drinking. I didn't want to end up like that, with the aim of any night out was to get absolutely plastered, so I just stopped going.

as if my choice reflected badly on them

There is definitely an element of this present in the background in my view. I think what you’re describing fits well except I don’t think they would get aggressive about it, but I don’t know.

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Flamingojune · 13/09/2026 16:45

mrsm43s · 13/09/2026 16:26

Well you asked me. I'm not a qualified alcohol counsellor, so I can't answer that question.

I do know, that if you cannot stay in control of your drinking, you need professional advice to address that. Simply staying away doesn't resolve the underlying problem long term, because throughout your life, if you are not in control of your alcohol intake, you will come across a multitude of triggers and you've only dealt with the symptom, not the cause.

Edited

If youre not a qualifed alcohol counsellor how do you know all the stuff you claim to know?

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 13/09/2026 16:56

Here's my tips.

  1. Stop drinking completely for a few months. It's much easier not to want to drink once you start reaping the benefits, having a clearer head and no grogginess. If this feels like an impossible ask, maybe ask yourself why...
  1. Tell them you're not drinking at the moment because you're getting awful hangxiety and want to have a break for your health. If they then take the piss or try to persuade you to drink "just one" they're shit friends. As a pp said some might be a bit defensive about it
  1. Can you drive to your night out? Driving (and not drinking at all, not even a tiny one) really helped me to keep my resolve because you don't really have the choice to buckle, assuming your a responsible human who wouldn't drink and drive
  1. Go somewhere where you can get really delicious not too sugary non alcoholic drinks that will make up for missing out on your usual favourite drink. Stop buying rounds.
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