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Irish Passports?

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tyrsta · 30/08/2026 02:05

How many of you hold one? And have any of you visited Ireland?

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Slimtoddy · 31/08/2026 14:42

Hmmm interesting topic. I have always wondered why some Irish people get so annoyed at Americans and the like claiming they are Irish. Doesn't bother me at all. The more the merrier I say. And as for passports the government sets the rules and if you are entitled you are entitled.

My English born cousins definitely think they have strong Irish connections and I am not sure if they have Irish passports but if they do they are entitled to them.

I am Irish born and emigrated - like so many Irish people. My DC all have Irish passports.

Shangle · 31/08/2026 14:43

Ace56 · 31/08/2026 09:09

You’ll probably hate me, OP.

I have an Irish passport through grandparents. My parents were not born in Ireland and neither was I. All passed on via registering as an Irish citizen abroad at birth. I have been to Ireland a couple of times.

I will do the same with my children, so we’ll then have 3 generations who haven’t been born in Ireland but who have passports! #sorry not sorry

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The Irish system always struck me as a little creepy (and racist).
Its operates a kind of mythological/eugenics-y thinking.
Whereas the British system correctly assumes that it doesnt matter how white you are: if you were born to a Brit who themselves was not born in Britain, theres nothing British about you.

YouHaveAnArse · 31/08/2026 15:01

Shangle · 31/08/2026 14:43

The Irish system always struck me as a little creepy (and racist).
Its operates a kind of mythological/eugenics-y thinking.
Whereas the British system correctly assumes that it doesnt matter how white you are: if you were born to a Brit who themselves was not born in Britain, theres nothing British about you.

That must be news to Raheem Sterling, Mo Farah and Marc Guehi, then.

Dontknowwhocanhelp · 31/08/2026 15:02

Shangle · 31/08/2026 14:43

The Irish system always struck me as a little creepy (and racist).
Its operates a kind of mythological/eugenics-y thinking.
Whereas the British system correctly assumes that it doesnt matter how white you are: if you were born to a Brit who themselves was not born in Britain, theres nothing British about you.

I think the Irish government feels a duty to the Irish diaspora. Many Irish people in the past were forced to leave their homes because of desperate circumstances and that hasn’t been forgotten. Emigration has long been a huge thing in Ireland. We are only recently a rich country.

Millytante · 31/08/2026 15:14

mathanxiety · 31/08/2026 03:04

Does this mean that anyone who can figure out how to pronounce though, thought, thorough, trough, rough, drought, dough, cough, bought, plough, and wrought should qualify for a UK passport?

You may jest but boy, you should have seen Irish before it was simplified in the 1950s. For every ‘dhbh’ or ‘mh’ now, there'd have been double those consonants then.
It’s a wonder anyone ever got a letter posted off in time 🤣

Shangle · 31/08/2026 15:19

YouHaveAnArse · 31/08/2026 15:01

That must be news to Raheem Sterling, Mo Farah and Marc Guehi, then.

What?

Fransgran · 31/08/2026 15:40

I'm Irish, live in Ireland and have both British and Irish passports. My adult children, born in America, also have US ones. I never gave it a thought - I don't make the rules - but there's one thing that really grinds my gears. I have one English son-in-law who has never had a civil word to say about Ireland and the Irish. He actually sat in my house making supercilious remarks about provinicials and their their perceived shortcomings. I didn't miss him and hit the wall (figuratively!) and he never got the chance to do it again. Now, because his children have Irish passports, he's falling over himself to try and claim Irish citizenship, citing a grandmother he kept schtum about hitherto. He has often said how he could never live in this benighted place (he's from Birmingham ffs!) and yet he's making strenuous efforts to get an Irish passport and wondering why he isn't receiving a rapturous welcome. Now I've vented about it here, I'm starting to appreciate the irony a bit more

CherryFlan · 31/08/2026 15:58

Fransgran · 31/08/2026 15:40

I'm Irish, live in Ireland and have both British and Irish passports. My adult children, born in America, also have US ones. I never gave it a thought - I don't make the rules - but there's one thing that really grinds my gears. I have one English son-in-law who has never had a civil word to say about Ireland and the Irish. He actually sat in my house making supercilious remarks about provinicials and their their perceived shortcomings. I didn't miss him and hit the wall (figuratively!) and he never got the chance to do it again. Now, because his children have Irish passports, he's falling over himself to try and claim Irish citizenship, citing a grandmother he kept schtum about hitherto. He has often said how he could never live in this benighted place (he's from Birmingham ffs!) and yet he's making strenuous efforts to get an Irish passport and wondering why he isn't receiving a rapturous welcome. Now I've vented about it here, I'm starting to appreciate the irony a bit more

To be fair this has historically worked both ways, with some Irish people with a strong dislike of anything British happy enough to take advantage of legal entitlements to access British advantages (the NHS would be a good example, or what was once the more vibrant British economy).

Thankfully British people are allowed to claim their Irish nationality (and your son in law is legally no less Irish than you are) despite their contempt for Ireland just the same as Irish people are allowed to work in the UK. If access to these rights depended on political beliefs we'd be in a darker place.

RosasDanceRosas · 31/08/2026 16:06

Shangle · 31/08/2026 14:43

The Irish system always struck me as a little creepy (and racist).
Its operates a kind of mythological/eugenics-y thinking.
Whereas the British system correctly assumes that it doesnt matter how white you are: if you were born to a Brit who themselves was not born in Britain, theres nothing British about you.

Respectfully, you're the one who is sounding eugenicist. Also, you clearly have no knowledge of how seriously Ireland takes its diaspora, given that colonial policies caused a major humanitarian disaster that saw over a million die and 2 million forced to emigrate between 1845 and 1855, and the economic fallout from that lasted until decades after independence. When large percentages of your country's population has historically found itself forced to emigrate, then obviously those people and their descendants are of concern.

intrepidpanda · 31/08/2026 16:14

tyrsta · 31/08/2026 01:21

It’s so ironic to see all the British with only ancestral ties jumping on the Irish passport route.

I have cousins in England, they don’t visit Ireland or their family here. Don’t show up for funerals, weddings or christenings.

But they are first in line claiming Irish heritage.

Stop being so bitter and twisted
Is there a limited number of Irish passports or something?
Are they stopping you getting yours?
Is there a I'm the most Irish competition and you feel threatened?

tyrsta · 31/08/2026 18:49

intrepidpanda · 31/08/2026 16:14

Stop being so bitter and twisted
Is there a limited number of Irish passports or something?
Are they stopping you getting yours?
Is there a I'm the most Irish competition and you feel threatened?

Quite the opposite actually. I live in NI and hold a British passport. We can hold both but I have no reason to change.

My grandparents, God rest their souls, were British.

Their English grandchildren are claiming Irish entitlement simply because they can, which I understand is their legal entitlement due to the GFA.

Morally, I don’t think it’s right. They didn’t give a shit about them when they were alive and now are using their dual status to jump on the Irish passport bandwagon.

It doesn’t affect me, it just pisses me off.

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Shangle · 31/08/2026 19:21

RosasDanceRosas · 31/08/2026 16:06

Respectfully, you're the one who is sounding eugenicist. Also, you clearly have no knowledge of how seriously Ireland takes its diaspora, given that colonial policies caused a major humanitarian disaster that saw over a million die and 2 million forced to emigrate between 1845 and 1855, and the economic fallout from that lasted until decades after independence. When large percentages of your country's population has historically found itself forced to emigrate, then obviously those people and their descendants are of concern.

Im half Irish. Move on ✋️

fatphalange · 31/08/2026 19:28

You’ve got a bit of a strange attitude. Maybe that’s why the family members you disapprove of aren’t really involved with you? Their heritage is their heritage though and you making cat’s arse face about which passport they hold won’t change that fact.

Merrymoonage · 31/08/2026 19:46

Shangle · 31/08/2026 14:43

The Irish system always struck me as a little creepy (and racist).
Its operates a kind of mythological/eugenics-y thinking.
Whereas the British system correctly assumes that it doesnt matter how white you are: if you were born to a Brit who themselves was not born in Britain, theres nothing British about you.

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Giving citizenship rights to grandchildren is creepy and racist?
No, the British way of doing something is not the correct way other than in the UK, shockingly.

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