Irish Passports?

Quee (as in Queen) -va (as in van). Can also pounce Graine, Shiobhan, Aoife, Fionn and Saorise (Sur or See depending on their own pronunciation). I am from Cork.

@tyrsta Was your intention to really find out how many people now have Irish passports because of Brexit, without actually being Irish themselves?

I got my passport through marriage 28 years ago. Rules have changed since then.

Does it piss you off that Irish people get other passports? I don’t think the Irish can claim to be disadvantaged here. There are far more Irish diaspora in the rest of the world than in Ireland. It’s a country that has always had people migrating when it suited them and other people using Irish passports because it suits them is no different.
People will do what they need. I have a friend who has an Irish passport and has never been. Like most people it’s to take advantage of EU movement.
Amongst the six million who moved to the UK under EU freedom of movement around 1/3 are third country nationals. Many have never been to their European passport country but have family links there. eg India, Pakistan Nigeria and Brazil, holding ties to Italian, Spanish, or Portuguese family.
Passports will be used in this way. Irish no different.

FWIW @tyrsta I don't have British citizenship/naturalisation because I never applied. Great Grandfather, his mother and grandmother were all Cork born, like myself. My mother was born in England somewhere (accidentally as grandmother was on holiday when she arrived early), grandmother, great grandmother and great great grandmother all born in Scotland (these are just my living history relatives) and I've lived here over 5 years so fully entitled to UK Passport but have always had an Irish one since childhood.

Doesn't stop me working/paying taxes in Scotland. I do know a few people who applied for their descendant based Irish passports after Brexit though, in spite of voting Yes to ensure British citizens no longer had the same free movement rights.

This is incorrect. If you have a parent born on the island of Ireland you do not need to be registered as a foreign birth. That’s for the next generation who are entitled due to having an Irish grandparent.

Not automatically but if they can't pronounce them they should have application declined or revoked! Include ability to pronounce the appropriate lead or read in a sentence and correctly read The Chaos and other pronunciation poems. 😂 Bonus entitlement to declare yourself Scottish by fluently reading Burns poetry and pronouncing Milngavie (not the way Google AI does), Ecclefechan and Kirkcudbright.

I don’t see what on earth it has to do with Irish people if my family get Irish passports to enable them to move freely about in Europe. The government sets the rules and we’d be mad not to take advantage of it.

You’ll probably hate me, OP.

I have an Irish passport through grandparents. My parents were not born in Ireland and neither was I. All passed on via registering as an Irish citizen abroad at birth. I have been to Ireland a couple of times.

I will do the same with my children, so we’ll then have 3 generations who haven’t been born in Ireland but who have passports! #sorry not sorry

Sorry, might be just typos, but you’ve spelt three of those names incorrectly. They should be Gráinne, Siobhán and Saoirse.

Saoirse isn’t pronounced with Sur as the first syllable, whatever Saoirse Ronan told people (and she doesn’t pronounce it Sur herself).

The first syllable of Caoimhe isn’t, correctly, pronounced like the start of Queen either. It’s an approximation but the sound in Irish is different. The second syllable isn’t exactly the va in van either.

Sorry to be so picky 🫣

Can your DCs actually get Irish passports? I understand you got yours via your grandparents but I didn’t think that extended to your DCs given their grandparents are not Irish born?

Yes it can be passed down if OP had registered as an Irish citizen before their births. If she hadn’t done that it couldn’t be passed down.

That’s good to know, thanks! Does getting a passport count as ‘registering as an Irish citizen’ or do you need to do something separately?

Not true, my niece Caoimhe in Galway with a Galway mother and father from NI is pronounced the Qu way as are a lot of Caoimhes from Connemara.

I meant registering on the Foreign Births Register. You do that before applying for a passport in cases like pp’s. You don’t need to do it if you have an Irish parent who was born in Ireland.
https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/citizenship/born-abroad/registering-a-foreign-birth/

Why is it ironic?

I plan to claim my Irish passport as is my right as the child of an Irish person. I didn't visit often as a child because we couldn't afford many holidays abroad and my grandparents were either dead or had moved to UK. The only relative over there was my mum's cousin who is now dead.

If it was someone from say, Nigeria who was born in the UK and had only visited the country a few times but still wanted a Nigerian passport would you have the same issue?

Yes they were typos (and an unwillingness of my auto correct to accept such names) as I was typing and walking dogs on leads and my post disappeared twice as I was typing (laziness not applying the acute accents on 3rd attempt), my entire family pronounces my cousin's name as Kwee-Va not vuh with the Kwee sounding like Queen.

Sir-sha was two typos in fact (Saoirse) but I know people who are Sir, Sor and Seer Sha.

Only used those examples as they are names of family members so I can spell all of them correctly. Including recently added Áine with only 1 n and the Gaeilge version of our very Irish family surname (sans O') as a middle name.

We also have a couple of Mhairis, one is Var one is Mar.

Did you miss the fact I am actually Irish or just needed to correct my spelling?

Sláinte

N.B. Thanks to browser constantly refreshing for some ungodly reason this took 5 attempts to post so any typos now are pure frustration.

I'm Irish in the UK with an Irish passport.

My only bugbear is people who voted for Brexit who are digging out their Irish ancestry to get an EU passport.
I know they are just as entitled as anyone else but it still annoys me.

@SomersetBrie Worse are the ones who outright admitted they were going to do so based on Irish grandparents to maintain their free movement and free EHIC after Brexit but their own children couldn't do the same.

All I'll say is that I'm 25 my parents voted for Brexit because take back control. I was only 15 when the vote happened and I fell for the whole take back control. I didn't fully appreciate what a joy free movement actually was. I actually love the EU

It’s the government who decide who can apply for one, though. You’re angry at the wrong people.

I do have one, my dad and my husband are Irish. We visit probably 2-3 times a year. My husband would move back in a heartbeat.

My sister has one and hasn’t visited in 20 years.

We’re both still entitled to it!

No I didn’t miss the fact you were Irish. That’s why I was so surprised at the mistakes. I know I was being picky, and sorry about that, but I think it’s important to get the right info on here as it’s primarily a UK site. There’s enough confusion surrounding Irish names as there is 😅

Loads of Irish people in Ireland don’t get the Irish sounds right all the time or even most of the time, and use anglicised approximations instead. I include myself in this btw!
Caoimhe is a name where this happens a lot. Unfortunately Irish is taught badly in schools a lot of the time.

Is Mhairi from the Scottish side of your famiy? I’ve never heard it used in Ireland.

Im British but entitled to an Irish passport through my grandmother. I’ve been very tempted to get one to avoid the Brexit shitshow when travelling but haven’t bothered because the kids and DP couldn’t get one. I’ve been to Ireland many times.

As for your feelings about it I partly think “so what?” It’s no skin off your nose.

But I do know what you mean. I know someone who’s a professional Irishman despite both him and his Parents being born in England. It’s deeply tedious.

Yes and yes. I have an Irish parent, passport pre-dated Brexit. I don't blame remainer Brits for using any entitlement to an EU passport they have, it's perfectly legal for them to do so.

ETA - I would side-eye 'leavers' or leave-supporters who have used the scheme though

@Dontknowwhocanhelp Pronouciation varies across Ireland based on dialect too, never mind talking at the speed of lightning 😂

Yes, both Mhairi's are Scots with one Irish parent. One of the Irish V sounds has Var-ee and their (non Irish) surname also has a W pronounced V in it. She's not passive aggressive about her name being mispronouced at all and has given her daughter a lifetime of correcting both her names 😅

DH has Irish dad so he and DC have one. We’ve been on holiday and visited family but will never live in Ireland, the passport makes things easier for the DC and for travel as well.