Irish Passports?

Quite right that there's so much paperwork! Citizenship is a privilege and should require a bit of work on behalf of the applicant.

I do think it’s a bit weird if you don’t have personal ties to the country & have never visited.

Yep, born in England to two Irish parents. Have visited hundreds of times.

No such thing. The Irish passport covers the whole island.

I’m in the process of applying as I have an Irish parent. I’ve been quite a few times and feel at home there and proud of my Irish heritage.

Why should he have shame?

Not true - Irish citizenship is available if your parent is on the FBR before you are born and you apply for FBR registration (see category E).

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/irish-citizenship/irish-citizenship-through-birth-or-descent/#8ecd5f

Yes that’s what I meant.

Your grandchildren (not your children) will need to apply to be on the FBR, and as long as they do so before they have children then their children can also apply.

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/irish-citizenship/irish-citizenship-through-birth-or-descent/#8ecd5f

I'm eligible for one, but haven't applied as a) I haven't figured out finding someone suitable to notarise my documents in order to apply to the FBR, it's more restrictive than applying for a passport even b) not sure how I feel about it given I've never been nor met my Irish grandparents.

His children will be eligible to be put on the FBR if he is on the FBR when they are born

Actually, I just nipped back now to clarify what I meant!

An Irish passport/the citizenship by birth is available for all 32 counties of Ireland, but of course, the political reality still means that the North is a separate administrative entity.
The eligibility for citizenship isn’t grandly ignoring that, as has been claimed by one or two anti-Irish journalists, for instance. The GFA was after all an agreement, not a unilateral declaration.

Damnit, my head is tangled and jangling from lack of sleep. Not sure I made anything clear at all!

What register?
My Dad was born in ireland he lived there untill he was 11 when his family emigrated he has an irish birth certificate
What would i need to get an irish passport.

I have one and dd (born in England) has one. Dh is raging he can’t get one as it will limit our retirement plans.

Chat GPT is good for this..... You are automatically an Irish citizen through your father, so your application is the same as an Irish resident citizen applying for the first time.

Required Documents to Mail
After completing the digital form, you must post your original civil documents to the Passport Service in Ireland. Photostatic copies are not accepted unless specified below: 1, 2, 3]

• Your full UK birth certificate showing your parents' details.
• Your father’s full Irish birth certificate.
• Your parents' marriage certificate, if applicable.
• A certified colour photocopy of your British passport (the witness who signs your identity verification form must certify this copy).
• Two original proofs of address (e.g., a utility bill, bank statement, or official government letter matching your name and address). 1, 2]

Steps to Apply From the UK

1. Take a digital photo: You can do this at home using a smartphone or at a retail photo booth that provides a digital code. 1, 2]
2. Fill out the online application: Access the DFA Passport Online portal. Select "First-time adult applicant" living in Great Britain. 1]
3. Pay the fee: The standard fee for an adult first-time passport is €75 (plus a €15 international postal fee, totaling €90). 1]
4. Print and witness: Print the tracking page and the Identity Verification Form generated at the end. This form must be signed and stamped by an authorized witness (such as a doctor, lawyer, school principal, or police officer) who knows you or can verify your identity. 1, 2]
5. Post the documents: Mail your printed forms, certified ID copy, and original certificates to the Dublin address provided on your application printout. 1, 2]

https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/passports/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/

Im irish so have an irish passport. You hear a lot online about people wanting irish passports. My sons are half English as dh is english. Are there advantages to them having a British passport?

I do, I waa born in Ireland.
I visit regularly.
You?

No none.

How will it limit your retirement plans? I thought as the spouse of an EU resident you get the same benefits as them?

Why do you want to know, OP?
My DH as one. He spent every summer as a child in Ireland. My DCs will get them at some point. They’ve been once but are very keen to spend some time there.

This is correct - free movement extends to non-EU Family Members of the EU national, as long as they are moving with her, on the basis that free movement would not be much use of you couldn't take your family along.

An EU citizen’s spouse can accompany them, so it’s maybe not as restrictive as you think. Family members can apply for a residence card.

Also, as long as you’re not travelling to the EU citizen’s home country, the spouse may be exempt from the ETIAS (when it comes in) and the 90/180 rule is different.

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm

Thank you. That’s really good to know. A few years get down the line but thought he’d be restricted by the 90/180 rule.

There’s something particularly shameful about having served as a British soldier in Northern Ireland, enforcing British sovereignty over a territory created through partition, and then decades later securing an Irish passport when Irish citizenship suddenly becomes useful.

Many people would be surprised by the number of virulently anti-Nationalist Assembly members and other assorted Unionists who claimed theirs too,
post-GFA.
But these Irish people, ‘naturally Irish’ I would hope, according to OP’s cryptic words, are the fellow countrymen the rest of Ireland must embrace as family before reunification of the country can come about.
(This, after all, is the historic aim of the nation, though it’s no longer stated in mixed company, post GFA. The nation’s official name is Ireland, not ‘the Republic of Ireland’, which is a bit of a giveaway!)

The recent fabulous Fleadh (all-Ireland music festival) in Belfast showed us how all this embracing and merging can begin, perhaps. Or rather, can continue!
It was after all those famous N.I. men, the late Martin McGuinness and the Rev. Ian Paisley, who amazed the whole Universe with their genuine Damascene rejection of lifelong implacable opposition, becoming a byword for bubbling good humour.

[I reckon ex-British military eligible through ancestry could be contrasted with the stereotypical ‘never left the States’ Bostonian grandson of what he surely calls ‘Éire’, who thinks Ireland is still the Catholic land of De Valera (and should remain so) and who continues to funnel material support to the present generation of gangsters in the North in the name of some imaginary motherland he would seek to change in every respect if he ever set foot here!]

rant ends

Gawd knows where all that came from, unless it’s all the coffee I’m inhaling as medicine.