Irish Passports?

Cool, I didn't actually realise that as long as registered before both that a great grandchild could be registered, that's good to know for my grandchildren that may or may not come!

@Goatsarebest I don't think I said anything misleading there. I clearly said my children are entitled to Irish citizenship through their Irish father. They were born in England of an Irish father who was born in Ireland, and an English mother. There was no need for them to be added to foreign births register, it was just a case of applying for their Irish passports as they qualify automatically as Irish citizens through their father. They would've been entitled to Irish passports wherever their place of birth. I, on the other hand, as the spouse of an Irish person, need to prove three years' residency in Ireland.

I have an Irish and British passport. Both parents Irish and have visited more times than I care to remember.

Back in the day you could get Irish citizenship through marriage - no residency requirements, you had to be married for 3 years. Think it was phased out in the early 2000s.

My dad’s parents both came from Ireland/NI. My dad was born in England and never claimed his Irish citizenship even though he spent a huge amount of time in NI when growing up.

My brother and I both claimed Irish citizenship via our grandparents, through the foreign births register which we were registered on as adults at the beginning of our process to become Irish citizens.

I know lots of Caoimhe’s (Keeva). It’s an Ulster/ northern pronunciation. Can also of course be pronounced Qwee- va.

That’s not correct. If you’re born abroad, and neither parent was born in Ireland, and didn’t have an Irish passport when you were born but a grandparent was born in Ireland, then you have to go in the register of foreign births.
If you’re born abroad to a parent who was born in Ireland then you’re automatically an Irish citizen.

Don't confuse the issue even more! Nobody is entitled to citizenship through a great grandparent. If they are looking for citizenship it would be though grandparents being Irish citizens. So your grandkids could become Irish through your citizenship, not your parent.

Ah, ‘smart lad wanted’, as Myles Na gCopaleen used to say.
I thought it seemed unnecessarily complicated! 🙏🏻

Correct; you haven't acquired your spouse's Irish citizenship in a very long time. (That creeps up on a surprising number of couples who have simply taken it as read, and who’ve no intention of living here in order to qualify)

The 3-year residency in Ireland requirement is also subject to phenomenally slow processing of claims, meaning you end up pretty much fulfilling the more common 5-year residency required for naturalisation of other nationalities.
I’ve read many experts advise the latter route if you are in no particular administrative need of citizenship living here (eg if you are British). A bit less faff, it seems!

No, this is what surprised me, if the grandchild was put on the register before the birth of the great grandchild then the combination of grandchild and great grandparent is taken into account as the only one born in Ireland.

Give em a test on Caoilfhionn Dunne (How To Get To Heaven, etc)

I was useless at Maths at school, but that sounds like algebra to me. 🤣

(No wonder so many people reckon they’ll swerve around the whole shebang and infuriate advisors by asking for special consideration on account of their love of U2/ Father Ted/ armed rebellion while dressed all in black, etc.
After all, Minister, they are named Shawne!)

But that's still through your citizenship. It's because you've registered and are entitled.

A is irrelevant at this point.
E is eligible if D is on the FBR at the time of E's birth
F would be eligible if E is on the FBR at the time of F's birth
G would be eligible if...

A British passport is very handy for getting a working visa in Australia without having to do the regional work.

You could have opened with that.

Even though I DO visit Ireland regularly, you can’t blame people who have the right to an Irish passport not to jump at the chance to have an EU passport again after the shitshow of Brexit.

Going to funerals isn’t a requirement, ancestry is. And there’s no impact on people living in Ireland, or any additional drain on their resources by people who don’t live in Ireland holding an Irish passport.

Er the Irish government sets the passport rules. It’s not “so ironic” for people born outside of Ireland to obtain a passport based on their Irish ancestry in accordance with those rules.

It isn't some big mystery. It is because people want an EU passport and Ireland doesn't tax it's citizens if they earn outside Ireland. It is one of the more desirable citizenships in the world.

Irish, not living in Ireland. My DCs all have theirs, not born and not living in Ireland.

Does this mean that anyone who can figure out how to pronounce though, thought, thorough, trough, rough, drought, dough, cough, bought, plough, and wrought should qualify for a UK passport?

That's the thinking of all my DCs (dual Irish/US citizens).

We are all eligible for Canadian citizenship too, via a G Grandparent of mine. I need to do some digging for the papers that will prove descent, and I'm hoping to get the process started soon.

It is Keeva in Ulster Irish and also Connemara Irish.

Only Munster Irish uses the Qu- pronunciation.

My husband and kids have them - husband born in England and never been there. Kids born in Australia and never been there. They have British, Irish and Australian passports. Irish Granny left for England in the 1950s.
Got them for the kids so they have the freedom to live and work anywhere in Europe