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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 11:09

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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LuckyHazelFox · 27/08/2026 09:52

BunnyRabbitBella · 27/08/2026 09:51

How about the human rights of native Brits? Why are human rights only for asylum seekers?

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CoventryCity · 27/08/2026 09:56

BunnyRabbitBella · 27/08/2026 09:51

How about the human rights of native Brits? Why are human rights only for asylum seekers?

Indeed. It's almost as if we could use the data they are not showing us, to start a case on that one, isn't it? We could use the ECHR in our favour for once. Is there a barrister who would take up that one, I wonder. We'd need the data Lammy is blocking first.

Next step of course - they stop collecting such data.

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BunnyRabbitBella · 27/08/2026 09:59

CoventryCity · 27/08/2026 09:56

Indeed. It's almost as if we could use the data they are not showing us, to start a case on that one, isn't it? We could use the ECHR in our favour for once. Is there a barrister who would take up that one, I wonder. We'd need the data Lammy is blocking first.

Next step of course - they stop collecting such data.

I've read statistics from the House of Commons regarding prisoner statistics. It gives statistics on the percentage of the prison population by ethnicity and religion.

All I can say is, the statistics are absolutely shocking.....

CoventryCity · 27/08/2026 10:00

BunnyRabbitBella · 27/08/2026 09:59

I've read statistics from the House of Commons regarding prisoner statistics. It gives statistics on the percentage of the prison population by ethnicity and religion.

All I can say is, the statistics are absolutely shocking.....

Yep I bet. There's a reason they're going to court to stop them being published..

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LuckyHazelFox · 27/08/2026 10:02

CoventryCity · 27/08/2026 09:56

Indeed. It's almost as if we could use the data they are not showing us, to start a case on that one, isn't it? We could use the ECHR in our favour for once. Is there a barrister who would take up that one, I wonder. We'd need the data Lammy is blocking first.

Next step of course - they stop collecting such data.

Fantastic idea. It actually will come to something like that - before or after civil unrest. It's definitely coming. It will take a major scale terrorist incident in the UK for common sense to finally kick in. We've already let and continue to maintain so many unidentified hostile people who owe nothing to the UK. In their minds, their needs and their God comes first. Sick of saying that everyone with decency, thinks compassionately about those fleeing real danger.

Violetdeparma · 27/08/2026 10:28

We have already had major scale attacks

EvelynBeatrice · 27/08/2026 10:44

We are absolutely finished as a country if we don’t pursue policies for the greatest good of the greatest number of our citizens. That’s not what’s happening with so
many areas of policy.

The first duty of any government is to protect its citizens. That’s not happening.

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:04

The government are trying to stop the publication of crime stats broken down by nationality and immigration status. We can only conclude that the stats are so terrible that they fear civil unrest, vigilantes and a massive hole kicked in to the idea of 'diversity is our strength'.

Trouble is countries similar to ours like Germany and Sweden have published their data, so we can make an assumption that our stats would be similar. And it's not good. Those countries have seen support for anti-immigation 'far right' parties surge, so I get why our government wants to hide this from us. But it won't wash. People are fed up of all the gaslighting.

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:12

I wouldn't be surprised if the govt are looking at ways to stop the reporting of crimes committed by asylum seekers migrants and refugees. The BBC would definitely be on board with this. Then we could all live in harmony, unaware of what's happening around us.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

EasternStandard · 27/08/2026 11:14

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:12

I wouldn't be surprised if the govt are looking at ways to stop the reporting of crimes committed by asylum seekers migrants and refugees. The BBC would definitely be on board with this. Then we could all live in harmony, unaware of what's happening around us.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Yes that’s very concerning.

LuckyHazelFox · 27/08/2026 11:18

Violetdeparma · 27/08/2026 10:28

We have already had major scale attacks

Yep and governments still don't learn. This holding back crime statistics though makes it more iffy.

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 11:19

Did people on here really report the thread?

Or did Mumsnet delete it off their own back?

Either way, it’s not right. The left continue to tell us that all the worries about immigration are unfunded, so why not allow the data to be published for all to see?

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:27

Violetdeparma · 27/08/2026 10:28

We have already had major scale attacks

Yes, we have. But not quite on the same scale of France, particularly. Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, Bastille Day in Nice, dozens killed while drinking coffee on Parisian terraces, Catholic priest beheaded in a church. And lots of other incidents. It's had an impact on their politics, understandably.

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 11:34

And let’s be honest; the fact that they are refusing to publish the stats tells us all we need to know.

So I don’t know what they think they’re achieving. All they’re doing is making people more angry.

Nuthatch26 · 27/08/2026 11:35

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 11:19

Did people on here really report the thread?

Or did Mumsnet delete it off their own back?

Either way, it’s not right. The left continue to tell us that all the worries about immigration are unfunded, so why not allow the data to be published for all to see?

I'd like to know too. The message from MN posted upthread says 'thanks for the reports'.

Are any of those who reported it brave enough to admit it and explain why?

NancyThompson · 27/08/2026 11:42

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 11:19

Did people on here really report the thread?

Or did Mumsnet delete it off their own back?

Either way, it’s not right. The left continue to tell us that all the worries about immigration are unfunded, so why not allow the data to be published for all to see?

They will have reported the absolute crap out of it.

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:43

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 11:34

And let’s be honest; the fact that they are refusing to publish the stats tells us all we need to know.

So I don’t know what they think they’re achieving. All they’re doing is making people more angry.

Yes, like the response of the Cologne police on NYE 2015. They reported that the night had passed off peacefully. Turned out there had been over 1,000 sexual assaults. It enrages people and probably did more than anything to increase support for anti-immigation parties.

EvelynBeatrice · 27/08/2026 11:46

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:43

Yes, like the response of the Cologne police on NYE 2015. They reported that the night had passed off peacefully. Turned out there had been over 1,000 sexual assaults. It enrages people and probably did more than anything to increase support for anti-immigation parties.

Yes the support for extremist parties who are unfit to govern is a huge concern and at least partially down to the refusal of mainstream largely respectable parties to engage.

EasternStandard · 27/08/2026 11:50

NancyThompson · 27/08/2026 11:42

They will have reported the absolute crap out of it.

Yes throw criticism of Labour into that thread and it would have been inundated.

BunnyRabbitBella · 27/08/2026 11:52

The whole asylum system just seems broken. On the one hand, we're told that asylum seekers have a right to move to the West because their own cultures (countries) are so violent. We then act all surprised that they then bring their violent tendencies to the West?

Then anyone that voices that the West is getting poorer and more violent due to asylum seekers is a "right wing extremist".

BunnyRabbitBella · 27/08/2026 11:54

5MinuteArgument · 27/08/2026 11:43

Yes, like the response of the Cologne police on NYE 2015. They reported that the night had passed off peacefully. Turned out there had been over 1,000 sexual assaults. It enrages people and probably did more than anything to increase support for anti-immigation parties.

OK, not asylum seekers. But the mass sexual abuse of children in places like Rotherham was an eye opener for me.

The BBC and political class kept it quiet.

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 11:58

EvelynBeatrice · 27/08/2026 11:46

Yes the support for extremist parties who are unfit to govern is a huge concern and at least partially down to the refusal of mainstream largely respectable parties to engage.

Yes, why doesn’t the left realise that by suppressing facts and trying to shut down debate at every corner they are encouraging the very thing they fear so much?

RichPetuniaAgain · 27/08/2026 12:03

Said this before, there needs to be a grassroots women's movement taking this agenda forward - highlighting everything relating to women's safety and immigration.

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 12:07

RichPetuniaAgain · 27/08/2026 12:03

Said this before, there needs to be a grassroots women's movement taking this agenda forward - highlighting everything relating to women's safety and immigration.

Unfortunately you’re then going to get other women talking about violence and rapes perpetrated by British men.

I can just imagine the posters and placards.

GunnelVallquist · 27/08/2026 12:08

I don’t understand why on this issue we can’t all pull together.

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