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Stopping the boats is easy...

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titbumwillypoo · 22/08/2026 15:47

All we have to do is abandon the ECHR, the Refugee Convention, the UN, the G7, NATO and the WTO. Then we can break maritime law and start sinking the boats. Obviously we'd have to proscribe the RNLI and change the job description of the coast guard to encourage people who want to sink boats to sign up. The fishermen will be fine.
Once we start with this deterrent we can start kicking out other undesirables. I'd start with the students. Coming over here using our universities as a gateway to benefits street. So we ban them, no more student visas. We might see a few universities close but no great loss, you learn more in the school of life.
After that take away access to ALL benefits for anyone not born here. Don't care if you've always worked and paid your taxes you're not ENGERLISH so less Dr Khalid more Dr Callum.
Obviously once we start making Britain Great again there may be a couple of teensy issues. Food might cost a lot more because the lefty EU might not want to trade with a nation that wants to isolate itself and kill innocent people. It'll be fine because there will be 100% employment because instead of benefits you'll have to do your 60 hours on the food farm to earn your pound credits.
Family will be legally obliged to look after any living relative as there won't be anyone left to do it because we deported them all. And obviously the NHS was full of loony lefties who went round caring for people instead of focusing on what really mattered, which is profit.
They're just a couple of the benefits of stopping the boats, because who cares about the bigger picture or unintended consequences eh?
Giving up our place on the world stage is a small price to pay for stopping a handful of people coming from countries we benefited from or bombed isn't it?

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EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 07:43

malificent7 · 29/08/2026 07:31

I might be in the minority here but I think immigrants work a lot harder than Brits do and want to work in the UK not claim benefits. They percieve the UK as the land of opportunity.

Are you referring to people with work visas?

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 07:45

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 07:39

I work with a large proportion of intelligent, very highly educated people from Europe and overseas. The UK would be poorer in every way without them.

Naturally - I know lots of “valuable” immigrants - but they came to the UK quite legitimately and certainly didn’t fight their way onto a boat.

The men coming on boats etc are frequently illiterate, low-skilled and need interpreters. We have enough young men with poor prospects without adding hundreds of thousands more.

ByWittyLimePoet · 29/08/2026 07:51

NotAnotherScarf · 22/08/2026 15:54

It is actually easy. Any body who tries to claim asylum is automatically declined and deported. As they have committed a crime in entering the UK illegally.

Naturally we still process legitimate applications for asylum but not these

You really don't get it, do you 🤣

themoonandhalfacrown · 29/08/2026 08:11

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 07:39

I work with a large proportion of intelligent, very highly educated people from Europe and overseas. The UK would be poorer in every way without them.

One would assume that they came her legally with the correct paperwork that allows them to work and contribute to the country ?

themoonandhalfacrown · 29/08/2026 08:32

NotAnotherScarf · 29/08/2026 07:22

It was meant to ridiculous. Its a Vic Reeves joke

OK,
My bad.

Brazillas · 29/08/2026 09:14

Have people looked at the average IQ of some of the nations coming over?

Parker231 · 29/08/2026 09:55

Brazillas · 29/08/2026 09:14

Have people looked at the average IQ of some of the nations coming over?

Are you generalising a whole nation? As with the UK, other nations will have a range of IQ levels

Brazillas · 29/08/2026 10:03

Parker231 · 29/08/2026 09:55

Are you generalising a whole nation? As with the UK, other nations will have a range of IQ levels

Yes but look at the average

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 10:21

Parker231 · 29/08/2026 09:55

Are you generalising a whole nation? As with the UK, other nations will have a range of IQ levels

Those coming over in boats - forgive me if I’m wrong - don’t appear to be availing themselves of particularly cerebral pursuits. And given the number of interpreters and translators required are not spending significant amounts of time learning English.

Contrast with people I know who are doctors/accountants/teachers… they were welcomed for their skills. A poster claimed that she knew neuroscientists who had come over in small boats. That sort of silly bullshit makes you fear for some people’s sanity if that’s their level of desperation to disprove reality. Sure, say migrants might work on the roads/pick fruit - but trying to make out that the boats are full of Sudanese Nobel Prize for Science winners - strewth.

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 10:36

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 10:21

Those coming over in boats - forgive me if I’m wrong - don’t appear to be availing themselves of particularly cerebral pursuits. And given the number of interpreters and translators required are not spending significant amounts of time learning English.

Contrast with people I know who are doctors/accountants/teachers… they were welcomed for their skills. A poster claimed that she knew neuroscientists who had come over in small boats. That sort of silly bullshit makes you fear for some people’s sanity if that’s their level of desperation to disprove reality. Sure, say migrants might work on the roads/pick fruit - but trying to make out that the boats are full of Sudanese Nobel Prize for Science winners - strewth.

Where did anyone say the boats are ‘full of’ Novel Prize winners, for anything?

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 10:47

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 10:21

Those coming over in boats - forgive me if I’m wrong - don’t appear to be availing themselves of particularly cerebral pursuits. And given the number of interpreters and translators required are not spending significant amounts of time learning English.

Contrast with people I know who are doctors/accountants/teachers… they were welcomed for their skills. A poster claimed that she knew neuroscientists who had come over in small boats. That sort of silly bullshit makes you fear for some people’s sanity if that’s their level of desperation to disprove reality. Sure, say migrants might work on the roads/pick fruit - but trying to make out that the boats are full of Sudanese Nobel Prize for Science winners - strewth.

However refugees make up less than 1% of the British population. This century we have one refugee Nobel Laureate and one refugee Fields Medallist (most prestigious prize in mathematics).

Overall this century we have 30-35 British Nobel Laureates, depending how you count dual citizenship, and only two Fields Medallists of British citizenship. Another has a permanent job in the UK.

At the highest levels of intellectual accomplishment and honours, refugees to the UK are indeed over-represented.

NotAnotherScarf · 29/08/2026 11:58

ByWittyLimePoet · 29/08/2026 07:51

You really don't get it, do you 🤣

Yes I do, we change our law to do it, simple

NotAnotherScarf · 29/08/2026 12:01

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 10:47

However refugees make up less than 1% of the British population. This century we have one refugee Nobel Laureate and one refugee Fields Medallist (most prestigious prize in mathematics).

Overall this century we have 30-35 British Nobel Laureates, depending how you count dual citizenship, and only two Fields Medallists of British citizenship. Another has a permanent job in the UK.

At the highest levels of intellectual accomplishment and honours, refugees to the UK are indeed over-represented.

And we accept legitimate refugees and people who can add to our country (as per the Australian model). We close the boarder to economic migrants. It's not rocket science

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 12:06

NotAnotherScarf · 29/08/2026 12:01

And we accept legitimate refugees and people who can add to our country (as per the Australian model). We close the boarder to economic migrants. It's not rocket science

So how will you distinguish between them? Governments of all stripes eagerly await your answer.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 08:30

NancyThompson · 30/08/2026 08:22

This is the chaos of what we have. It isn’t a system that’s working.

MaturingCheeseball · 30/08/2026 10:36

@poetryandwine - you honestly believe that boat is full of Nobel Prize winners? They are of the same ilk as the Middlesbrough troublemakers and I doubt whether you think they will be troubling the spheres of science and literature.

poetryandwine · 30/08/2026 10:52

MaturingCheeseball · 30/08/2026 10:36

@poetryandwine - you honestly believe that boat is full of Nobel Prize winners? They are of the same ilk as the Middlesbrough troublemakers and I doubt whether you think they will be troubling the spheres of science and literature.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Everyone agrees the boats are a big problem. I have already said so on this thread. No one has defended them.

As I have also said, we need good asylum pathways with robust checks. It is striking that the worst complainers fail to acknowledge the difficulty of providing this, or to offer realistic, implementable solutions.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 10:56

poetryandwine · 30/08/2026 10:52

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Everyone agrees the boats are a big problem. I have already said so on this thread. No one has defended them.

As I have also said, we need good asylum pathways with robust checks. It is striking that the worst complainers fail to acknowledge the difficulty of providing this, or to offer realistic, implementable solutions.

As said, if you had asked without digs, you’d probably get answers.

See how you go on the next thread.

poetryandwine · 30/08/2026 11:21

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 10:56

As said, if you had asked without digs, you’d probably get answers.

See how you go on the next thread.

No one there has any practical ideas either

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 11:28

poetryandwine · 30/08/2026 11:21

No one there has any practical ideas either

On a thread that hasn’t been started yet? Ok

It’s up to you to say nothing can be done. I don’t think this current you must accept chaos on boats and crimes will last.

poetryandwine · 30/08/2026 11:57

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 11:28

On a thread that hasn’t been started yet? Ok

It’s up to you to say nothing can be done. I don’t think this current you must accept chaos on boats and crimes will last.

I know serious work is being done. That’s why the number of boats is decreasing. IMO if Reform were getting these results these threads would not exist.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 12:02

poetryandwine · 30/08/2026 11:57

I know serious work is being done. That’s why the number of boats is decreasing. IMO if Reform were getting these results these threads would not exist.

We’ll see. Serious work meaning there’s a man stabbed and women attacked in a boat, some will think as you do but many won’t.

Not when there’s crimes here as a result of the same system.

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 12:06

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 12:02

We’ll see. Serious work meaning there’s a man stabbed and women attacked in a boat, some will think as you do but many won’t.

Not when there’s crimes here as a result of the same system.

Exactly.

People are sick to the back teeth of it all.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 12:08

GunnelVallquist · 30/08/2026 12:06

Exactly.

People are sick to the back teeth of it all.

Yes and we aren't afraid of saying so.