To think Meghan Markle has every right to worry about her security?

Oh the irony of this comment. Many posters who defend H & M, or at least question the volume of negativity towards them, are subject to personal comments and are questioned about their intelligence or even their right to even comment in the first place.

And yes I have seen posters openly saying they loathe or detest them, which in my book are good synonyms for hate.

Also the sheer volume of posts does imho amount to hate when it is out of all proportion to what they have supposedly done. General criticism is fine of course but when posters create long-running ongoing threads for the sole purpose of raking through every detail of their lives, claiming to know every single one of their inner intentions and motivations, yes that does amount to hatred and it is unhinged.

A good example is their recent visit to the UK. Meghan didn’t appear in public or comment while she was here and yet thousands of nasty comments appeared about her and her children. That also constitutes hate in my book.

And when negative biased articles appear almost every day in the DM and in other leading media sites, and every washed up royal commentator, as a pp wisely said below, is using negative comment against H and M, to revitalise their income streams, that also constitutes hate.

Especially as this negative rhetoric plays straight in to the hands of certain readers of said right wing racist populist press who love a pile on and to jeer and sneer at articulate confident mixed race or black females who they don’t perceive as “sufficiently subservient” and that also constitutes hate in my book too

I wholeheartedly agree. There is a lot of weaponisation of mental health /illnesses being used as an insult towards those who disagree with their opinion. It’s lazy, childish and used by those who either think it’s 2020 when people might have believed these ridiculous statements or by those who have simply run out of road in their arguments so resort to petty insults.

Well the simple answer to this is not to read any of it. You can ignore it and scroll by.

What is the royal security cut off? Do Beatrice & Eugenie or Zara get security? I genuinely have no idea. The Windsor's are a rich family - the intelligence service should monitor threats to all of them but I don't see why the taxpayer should pay for security for all of them - there needs to be a cut off. Only providing security for official engagements seems reasonable.

Just as the haters, and I use that word deliberately, can choose to pause and think before starting yet another thread, or another post criticising them, Meghan’s pregnancies, their parenting, their motivations that that can’t possibly know about…

And they can choose to not read another article written in the same vein…. Or not listen to another jeering podcast.

Many haters are gullibly taking in this huge volume of comment that is largely made for financial reward and are reproducing it on sm sites without asking themselves the question is this reasonable, sane, or proportionate?

Oh the irony of this comment. Many posters who defend H & M, or at least question the volume of negativity towards them, are subject to personal comments and are questioned about their intelligence or even their right to even comment in the first place.

And yes I have seen posters openly saying they loathe or detest them, which in my book are good synonyms for hate.

Also the sheer volume of posts does imho amount to hate when it is out of all proportion to what they have supposedly done. General criticism is fine of course but when posters create long-running ongoing threads for the sole purpose of raking through every detail of their lives, claiming to know every single one of their inner intentions and motivations, yes that does amount to hatred and it is unhinged.

A good example is their recent visit to the UK. Meghan didn’t appear in public or comment while she was here and yet thousands of nasty comments appeared about her and her children. That also constitutes hate in my book.

And when negative biased articles appear almost every day in the DM and in other leading media sites, and every washed up royal commentator, as a pp wisely said below, is using negative comment against H and M, to revitalise their income streams, that also constitutes hate.

Especially as this negative rhetoric plays straight in to the hands of certain readers of said right wing racist populist press who love a pile on and to jeer and sneer at articulate confident mixed race or black females who they don’t perceive as “sufficiently subservient” and that also constitutes hate in my book too

Just as the haters, and I use that word deliberately, can choose to pause and think before starting yet another thread, or another post criticising them, Meghan’s pregnancies, their parenting, their motivations that that can’t possibly know about…

And they can choose to not read another article written in the same vein…. Or not listen to another jeering podcast.

Many haters are gullibly taking in this huge volume of comment that is largely made for financial reward and are reproducing it on sm sites without asking themselves the question is this reasonable, sane, or proportionate?

No, the tide hasn't turned in fact, on here I think it has got worse. The number of horrible insults and names she is called is unbelievable. Look at the long running thread about her and him, it's up to no. 29. That's 28,000+ posts and it is not balanced in any way. The regulars on there make it their life's work to disparage her, on and on. I reported a revolting post the other day, it wasn't deleted, mnhq said it was just an opinion. No other famous person on this forum could be called that and not have their post deleted. It has become a UK mindset for some people.

I think the hate has got worse. The less Meghan does, the worse it gets. People work themselves up into a complete frenzy about her and it will only take one batshit unhinged person to take it further and the media feeds it. I listened to Angela Levin and read Dickie Arbiter yesterday, they were almost frothing at the mouth.

Just as the haters, and I use that word deliberately, can choose to pause and think before starting yet another thread, or another post criticising them, Meghan’s pregnancies, their parenting, their motivations that that can’t possibly know about…

And they can choose to not read another article written in the same vein…. Or not listen to another jeering podcast.

Many haters are gullibly taking in this huge volume of comment that is largely made for financial reward and are reproducing it on sm sites without asking themselves the question is this reasonable, sane, or proportionate?

Ahh I should’ve said I have the Royal Family board muted so I probably don’t see the worst of it!

The hate is bizarre - I genuinely don’t understand it. I think it makes us Brits look backwards. There’s nothing quite like plebs being so subservient that they’ll take personal offence at those who offend their masters.

It’s embarrassing.

Your last sentence is correct. There is only taxpayer funded security for the King and Queen, and the Prince and Princess of Wales. Anne, Edward and Sophie only get it when they do official royal duties. Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara etc get nothing.

That won’t quite be true - the minor royals may get security if a specific threat has been identified.

"may.....if"?
Yes, like anyone else who has received a threat.
Don't twist it.
The non working royals do not get taxpayer funded security as a matter of course

No it doesn’t at all. It means we call out entitled behaviour and lies and not tug on our foreloc just because a member of the RF says it so.

Sure…

Twist it? Did you get out of bed the wrong side?

Twist it? Did you get out of bed the wrong side?

It’s a bit late in the day for that

Most odd.
How many times do people have to explain that no, Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara and Peter etc don't get taxpayer funded security as a matter of course?
Is it to buoy up the claims of H&M, do you suppose?.

That’s a Really good point about Trump.. there is literally so much ‘ hate’ directed at absolutely everything about him! The hypocrisy of calling anyone à hater.. when you routinely deride him for his hair, size, health, clothes etc etc etc…

I feel as though the penny just dropped for me and I see the language they use is a reflection of their own responses. They see ‘ hate’ everywhere, because they feel it so much themselves.

omg.

Ahh I should’ve said I have the Royal Family board muted so I probably don’t see the worst of it!

The hate is bizarre - I genuinely don’t understand it. I think it makes us Brits look backwards. There’s nothing quite like plebs being so subservient that they’ll take personal offence at those who offend their masters.

It’s embarrassing.