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To think Meghan Markle has every right to worry about her security?

671 replies

Hardware252525252525 · 20/08/2026 22:07

I’m not a monarchist and haven’t really taken much notice of the whole saga, but obviously do know the main points.

However, the comments across Mumsnet and multiple newspapers and websites are absolutely insane and unhinged. People who don’t know them insisting she’s leaving Harry and the kids, is controlling him, that they’re skint and tge
kids will have to go to state school if Charles doesn’t pay, people saying they hope a random stranger sees her and gives her ‘some home truths’.

It is absolutely crackers and I worry about the sanity of the people who seem to really believe they know them.

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OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 20:15

rocklivia · 22/08/2026 20:11

Didn't you know it's all a conspiracy ?

😂😂
Too true 😜

Benjithedog · 22/08/2026 20:25

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 19:37

People Magazine? 🤞🏼

You bet

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 20:26

Benjithedog · 22/08/2026 20:25

You bet

... orders copy...

Benjithedog · 22/08/2026 20:27

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 20:26

... orders copy...

A years subscription?

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 20:35

Benjithedog · 22/08/2026 20:27

A years subscription?

Why not. I can keep up to speed with Their Royal Sussexes 👍🏼

Benjithedog · 22/08/2026 20:37

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 20:35

Why not. I can keep up to speed with Their Royal Sussexes 👍🏼

Well it will all be from the horses mouth

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/08/2026 20:40

Benjithedog · 22/08/2026 20:37

Well it will all be from the horses mouth

🐴

Filoparcels017 · 23/08/2026 11:13

simpsonthecat · 22/08/2026 17:47

Those that feel hatred for two people they don't know who don't affect them really need to have a good think about whether they need to take a step back. It's that bizarre and unwarranted.

Yes. That’s the nub of it.

Even if, for some reason you loathe them, it doesn’t exactly affect anyone’s day if they are resident in the UK or the USA.

And if you object that your taxes may be spent on their security why do you only feel upset about that in isolation rather than the fact that:

~The official figure of £86m for the Sovereign Grant excludes massive expenses such as security for the entire family (£150m), local council event costs, and royal travel for all of the royals, and as such is highly misleading and underestimated.

~That Edward and Sophie live in a £30 million pound mansion with 120 rooms for which they pay a peppercorn rent for doing a job arguably no more onerous or complex than your average petrol station operative.

~The Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall generate over €40 million annually for the King and the Prince of Wales and as they are historically state assets, their profits should go directly to the public treasury.

~Legally, the monarch is exempt from the 40% inheritance tax normally applied to wealthy estates, saving the royal family an estimated £250 million during recent successions.

~And while the King and William now share selective accounts to apparently “show transparency”, and pay some income and capital gains taxes voluntarily, they remain legally exempt from standard taxation on their sovereign estates and duchies under historical laws. In fact neither the monarch, or the Prince of Wales, is legally bound to pay income, capital gains, or inheritance taxes. Paying income tax remains legally voluntary for the monarch, and the lack of independent auditing allows them to obscure their true contributions and savings in this area.

~That continuing to increase public funding for a wealthy hereditary institution represents a misuse of public money, especially when we are renovating Buckingham Palace to the tune of £369 million, and that sum is being funded from the public purse through a temporary, parliament-approved increase—or "uplift"—in the state-funded Sovereign Grant , which temporarily raised the percentage of Crown Estate profits allocated to the royal household from 15% to 25% for the duration of the project. All this while our public health systems crumble.

~And btw the British public were given no choice or control over the decision to renovate a building that no member of the RF actually lives in anymore, and the public purse is renovating BP when our taxes already fund a perfectly good castle at Windsor.

~Not to mention the RF covering up the activities of a family member for many years, (and paying off his accuser to avoid a trial to the tune of €12 million) who was appointed to represent the UK in a trade envoy job, in which role he allegedly made many lucrative side deals for himself, allegedly behaved inappropriately if not criminally towards vulnerable young women, allegedly revealed state financial dealings to unauthorised cronies and allegedly endangered state security by inviting dubious individuals such as a Chinese spy and the convicted Libyan gun runner, Tarek Kaituni, as well as Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to BP. And that AMW’s public funded security did nothing to prevent that?

Why does all of that not infuriate you at least as much, or even more, than H & M?

Benjithedog · 23/08/2026 11:27

Filoparcels017 · 23/08/2026 11:13

Yes. That’s the nub of it.

Even if, for some reason you loathe them, it doesn’t exactly affect anyone’s day if they are resident in the UK or the USA.

And if you object that your taxes may be spent on their security why do you only feel upset about that in isolation rather than the fact that:

~The official figure of £86m for the Sovereign Grant excludes massive expenses such as security for the entire family (£150m), local council event costs, and royal travel for all of the royals, and as such is highly misleading and underestimated.

~That Edward and Sophie live in a £30 million pound mansion with 120 rooms for which they pay a peppercorn rent for doing a job arguably no more onerous or complex than your average petrol station operative.

~The Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall generate over €40 million annually for the King and the Prince of Wales and as they are historically state assets, their profits should go directly to the public treasury.

~Legally, the monarch is exempt from the 40% inheritance tax normally applied to wealthy estates, saving the royal family an estimated £250 million during recent successions.

~And while the King and William now share selective accounts to apparently “show transparency”, and pay some income and capital gains taxes voluntarily, they remain legally exempt from standard taxation on their sovereign estates and duchies under historical laws. In fact neither the monarch, or the Prince of Wales, is legally bound to pay income, capital gains, or inheritance taxes. Paying income tax remains legally voluntary for the monarch, and the lack of independent auditing allows them to obscure their true contributions and savings in this area.

~That continuing to increase public funding for a wealthy hereditary institution represents a misuse of public money, especially when we are renovating Buckingham Palace to the tune of £369 million, and that sum is being funded from the public purse through a temporary, parliament-approved increase—or "uplift"—in the state-funded Sovereign Grant , which temporarily raised the percentage of Crown Estate profits allocated to the royal household from 15% to 25% for the duration of the project. All this while our public health systems crumble.

~And btw the British public were given no choice or control over the decision to renovate a building that no member of the RF actually lives in anymore, and the public purse is renovating BP when our taxes already fund a perfectly good castle at Windsor.

~Not to mention the RF covering up the activities of a family member for many years, (and paying off his accuser to avoid a trial to the tune of €12 million) who was appointed to represent the UK in a trade envoy job, in which role he allegedly made many lucrative side deals for himself, allegedly behaved inappropriately if not criminally towards vulnerable young women, allegedly revealed state financial dealings to unauthorised cronies and allegedly endangered state security by inviting dubious individuals such as a Chinese spy and the convicted Libyan gun runner, Tarek Kaituni, as well as Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to BP. And that AMW’s public funded security did nothing to prevent that?

Why does all of that not infuriate you at least as much, or even more, than H & M?

🥱

simpsonthecat · 23/08/2026 11:34

Filoparcels017 · 23/08/2026 11:13

Yes. That’s the nub of it.

Even if, for some reason you loathe them, it doesn’t exactly affect anyone’s day if they are resident in the UK or the USA.

And if you object that your taxes may be spent on their security why do you only feel upset about that in isolation rather than the fact that:

~The official figure of £86m for the Sovereign Grant excludes massive expenses such as security for the entire family (£150m), local council event costs, and royal travel for all of the royals, and as such is highly misleading and underestimated.

~That Edward and Sophie live in a £30 million pound mansion with 120 rooms for which they pay a peppercorn rent for doing a job arguably no more onerous or complex than your average petrol station operative.

~The Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall generate over €40 million annually for the King and the Prince of Wales and as they are historically state assets, their profits should go directly to the public treasury.

~Legally, the monarch is exempt from the 40% inheritance tax normally applied to wealthy estates, saving the royal family an estimated £250 million during recent successions.

~And while the King and William now share selective accounts to apparently “show transparency”, and pay some income and capital gains taxes voluntarily, they remain legally exempt from standard taxation on their sovereign estates and duchies under historical laws. In fact neither the monarch, or the Prince of Wales, is legally bound to pay income, capital gains, or inheritance taxes. Paying income tax remains legally voluntary for the monarch, and the lack of independent auditing allows them to obscure their true contributions and savings in this area.

~That continuing to increase public funding for a wealthy hereditary institution represents a misuse of public money, especially when we are renovating Buckingham Palace to the tune of £369 million, and that sum is being funded from the public purse through a temporary, parliament-approved increase—or "uplift"—in the state-funded Sovereign Grant , which temporarily raised the percentage of Crown Estate profits allocated to the royal household from 15% to 25% for the duration of the project. All this while our public health systems crumble.

~And btw the British public were given no choice or control over the decision to renovate a building that no member of the RF actually lives in anymore, and the public purse is renovating BP when our taxes already fund a perfectly good castle at Windsor.

~Not to mention the RF covering up the activities of a family member for many years, (and paying off his accuser to avoid a trial to the tune of €12 million) who was appointed to represent the UK in a trade envoy job, in which role he allegedly made many lucrative side deals for himself, allegedly behaved inappropriately if not criminally towards vulnerable young women, allegedly revealed state financial dealings to unauthorised cronies and allegedly endangered state security by inviting dubious individuals such as a Chinese spy and the convicted Libyan gun runner, Tarek Kaituni, as well as Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to BP. And that AMW’s public funded security did nothing to prevent that?

Why does all of that not infuriate you at least as much, or even more, than H & M?

Great post. Informative and spot on.

OrangeAxolotyl · 23/08/2026 11:37

@Filoparcels017....you do know that it's actually possible to be concerned and critical of more than one issue at a time?
Some of us manage to be on political and education threads and discuss issues on there...at the same time as being on here!
Mind blowing. It happens.

Potatoespotaarrrrtos · 23/08/2026 12:15

Filoparcels017 · 23/08/2026 11:13

Yes. That’s the nub of it.

Even if, for some reason you loathe them, it doesn’t exactly affect anyone’s day if they are resident in the UK or the USA.

And if you object that your taxes may be spent on their security why do you only feel upset about that in isolation rather than the fact that:

~The official figure of £86m for the Sovereign Grant excludes massive expenses such as security for the entire family (£150m), local council event costs, and royal travel for all of the royals, and as such is highly misleading and underestimated.

~That Edward and Sophie live in a £30 million pound mansion with 120 rooms for which they pay a peppercorn rent for doing a job arguably no more onerous or complex than your average petrol station operative.

~The Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall generate over €40 million annually for the King and the Prince of Wales and as they are historically state assets, their profits should go directly to the public treasury.

~Legally, the monarch is exempt from the 40% inheritance tax normally applied to wealthy estates, saving the royal family an estimated £250 million during recent successions.

~And while the King and William now share selective accounts to apparently “show transparency”, and pay some income and capital gains taxes voluntarily, they remain legally exempt from standard taxation on their sovereign estates and duchies under historical laws. In fact neither the monarch, or the Prince of Wales, is legally bound to pay income, capital gains, or inheritance taxes. Paying income tax remains legally voluntary for the monarch, and the lack of independent auditing allows them to obscure their true contributions and savings in this area.

~That continuing to increase public funding for a wealthy hereditary institution represents a misuse of public money, especially when we are renovating Buckingham Palace to the tune of £369 million, and that sum is being funded from the public purse through a temporary, parliament-approved increase—or "uplift"—in the state-funded Sovereign Grant , which temporarily raised the percentage of Crown Estate profits allocated to the royal household from 15% to 25% for the duration of the project. All this while our public health systems crumble.

~And btw the British public were given no choice or control over the decision to renovate a building that no member of the RF actually lives in anymore, and the public purse is renovating BP when our taxes already fund a perfectly good castle at Windsor.

~Not to mention the RF covering up the activities of a family member for many years, (and paying off his accuser to avoid a trial to the tune of €12 million) who was appointed to represent the UK in a trade envoy job, in which role he allegedly made many lucrative side deals for himself, allegedly behaved inappropriately if not criminally towards vulnerable young women, allegedly revealed state financial dealings to unauthorised cronies and allegedly endangered state security by inviting dubious individuals such as a Chinese spy and the convicted Libyan gun runner, Tarek Kaituni, as well as Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to BP. And that AMW’s public funded security did nothing to prevent that?

Why does all of that not infuriate you at least as much, or even more, than H & M?

Absolutely spot on the hypocrisy of these M&H haters is through the roof!

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:21

Potatoespotaarrrrtos · 23/08/2026 12:15

Absolutely spot on the hypocrisy of these M&H haters is through the roof!

Well the HAMS do anything for it do they ? They are grifters.

Potatoespotaarrrrtos · 23/08/2026 12:27

I’m surprised you didn’t post one of your absolutely hilarious gifs @rocklivia

You seem to be losing your touch!

Backtoschooloncemore · 23/08/2026 12:31

Potatoespotaarrrrtos · 23/08/2026 12:15

Absolutely spot on the hypocrisy of these M&H haters is through the roof!

I miss the hypocrisy of supporting the institution of the monarchy and historical buildings but not feeling minor royals, who have opted out of doing anything as a royal, need to be supported as part of that.

The public had as much say about doing up BP as they have had about putting up NI and net zero.

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:32

simpsonthecat · 22/08/2026 17:47

Those that feel hatred for two people they don't know who don't affect them really need to have a good think about whether they need to take a step back. It's that bizarre and unwarranted.

How do you know people feel "hatred" for them ? Has there been a poll on that ? Has anyone on here actually said they hate them ?

Is this the same type of lazy comment pulled out time and time again along the lines of you don't know them/ why do you care etc?

Just because people criticise them it doesn't mean they " hate " them . That would be like saying people who praise their actions " love" them. It doesn't make logical sense.

People are entitled to their own opinions one way or another but please don't try to insinuate that there is something mentally wrong with people who criticise the Sussexes. Don't come back with a " I didn't say that " either as your insinuations are clear for anyone to see. There is nothing clever about taking a dig at people's mental health because they choose a different path from yourself. When people resort to personal attack they have already lost their point.

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rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:37

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:21

Well the HAMS do anything for it do they ? They are grifters.

Well the HAMS don't do anything for it. Grifters. Too late to edit.

simpsonthecat · 23/08/2026 12:41

@rocklivia Perhaps read the post I was responding to, and address your post to that poster.

"There is real hatred for them here" was what it said.

Benjithedog · 23/08/2026 12:45

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:32

How do you know people feel "hatred" for them ? Has there been a poll on that ? Has anyone on here actually said they hate them ?

Is this the same type of lazy comment pulled out time and time again along the lines of you don't know them/ why do you care etc?

Just because people criticise them it doesn't mean they " hate " them . That would be like saying people who praise their actions " love" them. It doesn't make logical sense.

People are entitled to their own opinions one way or another but please don't try to insinuate that there is something mentally wrong with people who criticise the Sussexes. Don't come back with a " I didn't say that " either as your insinuations are clear for anyone to see. There is nothing clever about taking a dig at people's mental health because they choose a different path from yourself. When people resort to personal attack they have already lost their point.

I wholeheartedly agree. There is a lot of weaponisation of mental health /illnesses being used as an insult towards those who disagree with their opinion. It’s lazy, childish and used by those who either think it’s 2020 when people might have believed these ridiculous statements or by those who have simply run out of road in their arguments so resort to petty insults.

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:48

simpsonthecat · 23/08/2026 12:41

@rocklivia Perhaps read the post I was responding to, and address your post to that poster.

"There is real hatred for them here" was what it said.

My point remains about what you said about such people.

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:55

Benjithedog · 23/08/2026 12:45

I wholeheartedly agree. There is a lot of weaponisation of mental health /illnesses being used as an insult towards those who disagree with their opinion. It’s lazy, childish and used by those who either think it’s 2020 when people might have believed these ridiculous statements or by those who have simply run out of road in their arguments so resort to petty insults.

Indeed. There has been an invasion recently on here of " lurkers" and " newcomers" who occasionally post an outrageous comment but at no point on here amongst the regular posters have I ever seen anyone say the people who defend Meghan and Harry are mad, crazy, unhinged etc. We all know the way these things are phrased to avoid being seen as a personal attack but they are still there and as plain as day to see.

TheHatTrick · 23/08/2026 13:00

Yes, yes, we’re all unhinged here.

Who is madder? The people housed in this asylum or the ones who claim they are wholly sane but choose to spend their time here anyway, surrounded by us lot.

It’s a hobby, stop making out you’re above it.

Noodles1234 · 23/08/2026 13:16

Thing is, they like the drama, any publicity is good publicity. You see they haven't actually publicly said much / anything at all and yet people comment good and bad. It is like a travelling crazy / bad circus.

One thing that I think is concerning for them, any couple in the world regardless of wealth, from having 3 houses around the globe or Bob and Jane in a 2 bed in Cleethorpes all this is a huge strain on a marriage. Think Court dramas, staffing changes, moving countries, schools, Nannys, family fall outs, trying to get employment etc. yes often their own making. I just hope for their kids sake the move across the Atlantic (again) is a good idea for them.

M seems a shrewd player, part of me feels sorry for her as H comes across as not shrewd and not a player.

TheHatTrick · 23/08/2026 13:57

They certainly seem to court drama.

I received good advice from a stranger when moving to a small town. “If you don’t want people commenting on your business then don’t tell anyone your business.”

The opposite holds true.

Filoparcels017 · 23/08/2026 14:24

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 12:32

How do you know people feel "hatred" for them ? Has there been a poll on that ? Has anyone on here actually said they hate them ?

Is this the same type of lazy comment pulled out time and time again along the lines of you don't know them/ why do you care etc?

Just because people criticise them it doesn't mean they " hate " them . That would be like saying people who praise their actions " love" them. It doesn't make logical sense.

People are entitled to their own opinions one way or another but please don't try to insinuate that there is something mentally wrong with people who criticise the Sussexes. Don't come back with a " I didn't say that " either as your insinuations are clear for anyone to see. There is nothing clever about taking a dig at people's mental health because they choose a different path from yourself. When people resort to personal attack they have already lost their point.

Oh the irony of this comment. Many posters who defend H & M, or at least question the volume of negativity towards them, are subject to personal comments and are questioned about their intelligence or even their right to even comment in the first place.

And yes I have seen posters openly saying they loathe or detest them, which in my book are good synonyms for hate.

Also the sheer volume of posts does imho amount to hate when it is out of all proportion to what they have supposedly done. General criticism is fine of course but when posters create long-running ongoing threads for the sole purpose of raking through every detail of their lives, claiming to know every single one of their inner intentions and motivations, yes that does amount to hatred and it is unhinged.

A good example is their recent visit to the UK. Meghan didn’t appear in public or comment while she was here and yet thousands of nasty comments appeared about her and her children. That also constitutes hate in my book.

And when negative biased articles appear almost every day in the DM and in other leading media sites, and every washed up royal commentator, as a pp wisely said below, is using negative comment against H and M, to revitalise their income streams, that also constitutes hate.

Especially as this negative rhetoric plays straight in to the hands of certain readers of said right wing racist populist press who love a pile on and to jeer and sneer at articulate confident mixed race or black females who they don’t perceive as “sufficiently subservient” and that also constitutes hate in my book too