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AIBU to refuse to cut short our holiday for childcare?

548 replies

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 12:20

This is not our problem ???

We are on holiday currently with our 2 dc (2 and 4) (Disney Paris) due back home on Wednesday. Dh has 2 older dc from previous marriage (6 and 8).

He gave his ex money for holiday childcare which she ‘forgot’ to book the first week so I had to look after dc which was fine as dh had work. Next week her mum was going to have the dc but is now unwell. She is telling dh he needs to come home early to have the dc as she can’t take the time off.

She is constantly messaging and calling and we are considering just turning our phones off if she continues pestering us this way.

This seems to be a regular thing with her not arranging childcare and then expecting us to rescue the situation which we try to accomodate if we can but this is the first time we’ve said no.

OP posts:
Franklinlove · Yesterday 15:02

isthisaplum · Yesterday 14:59

It is. There are six years between the youngest and the oldest. Think about what your average two year old can do developmentally and your average eight year old.

I have a five year old and a three year old and even that small age gap can sometimes feel quite overwhelming. And four children is a lot for anybody.

So if he couldn’t handle 4 at the same time, he shouldn’t have had 4

CelticSilver · Yesterday 15:02

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 12:46

Just in case there’s an emergency

I expect there will be ...

Franklinlove · Yesterday 15:01

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KitsyWitsy · Yesterday 15:01

Gymnopedie · Yesterday 15:00

And the Misandrist of the Year award goes to...

Men have affairs. No shit Sherlock. But to do so they need someone else to have the affair with. Most of the time that will be a woman. Ergo women have affairs too. QED.

And who's to say the affair started during Covid? It may have started before and she was just waiting until she'd had her husband's baby to leave.

They often have affairs with younger, single women.

Of course women have affairs too but not usually with very small children.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 15:00

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:57

Since when is 2 4 6 8 a really big age difference?

Can’t imagine many eight year olds being OK with what a two and four year old want to do on holiday.

Gymnopedie · Yesterday 15:00

User7989776 · Yesterday 14:49

Because it's statistically very very rare, especially during the postpartum phase. It sounds more like a story a narcissist would make up about his "crazy ex" and obviously you can say that about anyone and immediately garner sympathy points.

Most women move out after being abused or emotionally manipulated. Every single real life case we've heard of with the mum moving away shortly after having a baby, even if she did have an affair or did other things, there was still abhorrent behaviour from the man involved.

And the Misandrist of the Year award goes to...

Men have affairs. No shit Sherlock. But to do so they need someone else to have the affair with. Most of the time that will be a woman. Ergo women have affairs too. QED.

And who's to say the affair started during Covid? It may have started before and she was just waiting until she'd had her husband's baby to leave.

InterIgnis · Yesterday 15:00

User7989776 · Yesterday 14:49

Because it's statistically very very rare, especially during the postpartum phase. It sounds more like a story a narcissist would make up about his "crazy ex" and obviously you can say that about anyone and immediately garner sympathy points.

Most women move out after being abused or emotionally manipulated. Every single real life case we've heard of with the mum moving away shortly after having a baby, even if she did have an affair or did other things, there was still abhorrent behaviour from the man involved.

The affair began before she became pregnant, hence the need for the paternity test to establish that OP’s DH is actually the father.

“His ex cheated from before she was pregnant with their youngest. He didn’t even know until testing was done if it was his child or not it was an awful situation.”

isthisaplum · Yesterday 14:59

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:57

Since when is 2 4 6 8 a really big age difference?

It is. There are six years between the youngest and the oldest. Think about what your average two year old can do developmentally and your average eight year old.

I have a five year old and a three year old and even that small age gap can sometimes feel quite overwhelming. And four children is a lot for anybody.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:59

FookFookFook · Yesterday 14:37

No I wasnt ok with that …. As previously said above if you read the posts. So “wow” back at ya.

So what you’re saying is that both sets of parents should be taking all the children away with them when they go on holiday ?

WhistPie · Yesterday 14:59

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:57

Since when is 2 4 6 8 a really big age difference?

It is when you're 8 and you're pissed off with everthing arranged around the 2 and 4 year old!

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:57

Since when is 2 4 6 8 a really big age difference?

bitmiffed26 · Yesterday 14:57

FookFookFook · Yesterday 12:59

I can’t get past you going to Disney without the 6 and 8 year old! She’s unreasonable to expect you to go back now you are there but not half as unreasonable as you were to go without them regardless of if they went before. They are 6 and 8!

Can you get past him not taking the younger ones last year when he took the 6 and 8 year old?

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:56

isthisaplum · Yesterday 14:50

I can 100% understand why the OP and her husband don’t want four children of very different ages and stages at Disney. I think it’s unfair to berate her for this. It’s always going to be difficult getting a ‘perfect’ holiday in a blended family, there’s always going to be a compromise somewhere.

I think DH needs to just book something, though.

Wtf? I can totally understand the op not wanting this. I wouldn’t in her shoes.

But the DP?.. good grief no

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:56

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:55

I generally take statistically very rare over what the new partner has been told was the cause of the breakdown

Edited

And that’s you’re prerogative of course.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:56

WhistPie · Yesterday 14:54

I think that if you assume that an awful lot of the replies are from shit stirring contrarians or illogical dimwits you have your answer.

Made me laugh out loud 😂

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:55

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:51

That’s still not a reason to suppose the same thing is happening here despite being told it’s not.

I generally take statistically very rare over what the new partner has been told was the cause of the breakdown

WhistPie · Yesterday 14:54

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:50

This is what I have difficulty with. Their mum can go on holiday with her partner and two bio kids without their two half siblings and that’s fine. But woe betide their dad doing what amounts to the same thing. Yes, we know mum isn’t related to the two younger kids but her children are. Why does it work for one and not the other ?

I think that if you assume that an awful lot of the replies are from shit stirring contrarians or illogical dimwits you have your answer.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:54

hahabahbag · Yesterday 14:25

I’m guessing there’s more to this story - only 2 years between your oldest and your youngest dsd op? Seems off you don’t have them with you at Disney. 10 days a month is 1/3, enough to fit in a holiday. Your dp is “helping out” or “doing childcare” they are his dc and if his ex is that disordered he needs to consider having majority custody for the kids sake

There we are OP. Cut and dried. Your DH’s ex is making life difficult for you, so your best option is to cave to her demands. Got that ?!!

knottywig · Yesterday 14:53

RoseField1 · Yesterday 13:32

This is ridiculous. As long as all DC get similar opportunities there is no reason they all have to do everything together.

You missed the first phrase, “my personal view”. That might not be your personal view, but that’s how opinions work, shocker!

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:51

User7989776 · Yesterday 14:49

Because it's statistically very very rare, especially during the postpartum phase. It sounds more like a story a narcissist would make up about his "crazy ex" and obviously you can say that about anyone and immediately garner sympathy points.

Most women move out after being abused or emotionally manipulated. Every single real life case we've heard of with the mum moving away shortly after having a baby, even if she did have an affair or did other things, there was still abhorrent behaviour from the man involved.

That’s still not a reason to suppose the same thing is happening here despite being told it’s not.

isthisaplum · Yesterday 14:50

I can 100% understand why the OP and her husband don’t want four children of very different ages and stages at Disney. I think it’s unfair to berate her for this. It’s always going to be difficult getting a ‘perfect’ holiday in a blended family, there’s always going to be a compromise somewhere.

I think DH needs to just book something, though.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:50

WhistPie · Yesterday 14:34

Yet you were OK with the elder 2 going to Disney with their father and without the younger 2 last year? Wow.

And you're OK with the 2 elder ones going on holiday to Spain with their mum and her partner without the younger 2 - even though they're siblings? Wow again.

This is what I have difficulty with. Their mum can go on holiday with her partner and two bio kids without their two half siblings and that’s fine. But woe betide their dad doing what amounts to the same thing. Yes, we know mum isn’t related to the two younger kids but her children are. Why does it work for one and not the other ?

User7989776 · Yesterday 14:49

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 14:45

What’s so hard to believe about a woman having an affair and leaving ?

Because it's statistically very very rare, especially during the postpartum phase. It sounds more like a story a narcissist would make up about his "crazy ex" and obviously you can say that about anyone and immediately garner sympathy points.

Most women move out after being abused or emotionally manipulated. Every single real life case we've heard of with the mum moving away shortly after having a baby, even if she did have an affair or did other things, there was still abhorrent behaviour from the man involved.

knottywig · Yesterday 14:48

B1anche · Yesterday 13:23

1/ not relevant to my point
2/ I wasn't referring just to you. There are loads insane similar comments. I'm not married and our only kids are with each other.
3/ Good for them but what's it got to do with this thread? Perhaps they can afford to take 4 kids abroad more easily or are better with coping with 4 young kids all at once.

4/ Who says DH 'isn't happy' about taking all his kids at the same time? It could just be for practical reasons (see point 3).

In any case, none of this relevant to OP's query. You clearly just wanted to pass judgement on OP and her DH.

You are so right, it could be financial, so much better to choose between which kids to take than go on a cheaper holiday with them all. I mean nothing like the feeling kids get when they are told “not taking you on holiday this time because I want time at Disney with my new family only”. I personally think anyone who excludes the original children are arseholes, no matter how the marriage broke down. Also the original, cheating, wife could still see OP as a home wrecker if she believed she could win the husband back. Hence the trying to ruin their holiday. Though personally, I believe , if you’re cheated on, you shouldn’t go back. Before you jump to to more conclusions, as you seem to be good at, I am not from a broken family either. I also jumped to the conclusion that op was the other women due to the kids ages, for that I’m sorry to OP. It was that or the other conclusion, which was that the OP’s DH’s first marriage broke down so he found the next wife as soon as he could to look after his original children, so he didn’t have to do it alone! Adieu!

User7989776 · Yesterday 14:45

Kingdomofsleep · Yesterday 13:23

Not only did she cheat on him when her baby was under a year old, but also during lockdown...!

Yes this doesn't make sense on many levels. It would not have been physically possible for a post-partum mum to be dating and cheating during the lockdown?

Someone is clearly telling a lot of porkies, either your DH or you to the posters here.