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Is this a red flag or a reasonable request from lodger?

169 replies

blanketsnuggler · 07/08/2026 23:20

We rent out our Annex, and have just advertised for a new lodger. Decided on a nice lady who said the deposit/rent would not be a problem. (Good English, but not her first language).
Messaged her today to send over the agreement paperwork and bank details etc. She messaged back asking if it would be ok to send part of the deposit now, and the rest with the first rent payment in 4 weeks time.

Disclaimer - I have autism and am TERRIBLE at reading people! Sorry if this is an obvious question. Thanks

OP posts:
Seajaye · 08/08/2026 06:12

It's a hard world for many tenants moving from one property to another rental who have to wait for return of current deposit while finding another deposit. However a professional person on a good salary ought to be able to bridge the gap and still pay rent on time. The request is a definite red flag regarding their financial status, take up references first and insist upon the full deposit being paid and use a proper deposit holding scheme scheme.

Also if the annex is self contained she is categorised as a tenant ( with more rights) not a lodger and not so easy to evict without a court order if she doesn't pay her rent on time. Also has the Council tax assessed as this is also payable on self contained annexes by the occupier, or owner if no occupier.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 08/08/2026 06:12

When is she due to move in?

if it’s straight away then she needs to pay the deposit now. If it’s not for a month and the first months rent is payable when she moves in then I don’t actually think he request is that bad but fine for you to say no.

NoLifeguardOnDuty · 08/08/2026 04:48

I'd reply,

"Sorry, as you said you didn't have the deposit that's required in the contract, the room/ space was automatically offered to the next person on the waiting list. If you'd like us to put you back on the list please let us know" just make something up if you have to.

dizzydizzydizzy · 08/08/2026 04:36

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 23:35

What does autism have to do with this?

She explained that on her OP. She said it made her terrible at reading people. A low ability to gauge other people is normal with autism.

XigDoop · 08/08/2026 04:14

I would ask for a credit check before you go any further and with future lodgers.

iamnotalemon · 08/08/2026 03:57

blanketsnuggler · 08/08/2026 00:09

ok. sent the message. what do I do if she suddenly finds the full deposit now?

That’s up to you and whether you want her as a tenant. Do you have other people interested? If she paid the full deposit now, you can either decide to proceed or if you’ve changed your mind, let her know.

HRTQueen · 08/08/2026 02:31

Always start as you mean to go on as stated in the contract

find another lodger

and always keep money matters business like no apologies, no I can see what I can do etc

blanketsnuggler · 08/08/2026 01:28

Thanks for all the help so far. To clarify, they are definitely a Lodger, not a tenant. There is a shared area. 'Annex' is just a word I used in my post as it is an extension area to our house. We call it the Annex, but legally the renters are lodgers.

You see why being autistic is relevant?! I am not good at choosing words, nor expressing myself clearly in an appropriate manner. I am often accused of being rude when I really don't mean to be. I am not confident communicating with people. DH is away and I'm having to deal with this myself. (and MN people. :)

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PrincessofWills · 08/08/2026 01:17

@blanketsnuggler the person who rents from you will not have the status of lodger but will be an excluded occupier with basic protection because the person lives on the premises but has separate accommodation to you, i.e. the annexe.

This is a very important distinction because in order to remove the occupier you will need a Possession Order from the court if having given them notice, they fail to leave. I'd advise you check the Shelter site to ensure you understand this, and keep yourself updated with the law relating to excluded occupiers with basic protection.

Few members of the general public understand this legal distinction, hence the errors on here from non housing practitioners. It's a common misconception. This applies only in England, not Wales, Scotland or NI.

Edited to add no, I wouldn't rent to this person they're pushing boundaries and trying to change the agreement straight away. There are lots of potential candidates out there who will stick to your requirements.

Therewegothen · 08/08/2026 01:17

GLOBALBEES · 08/08/2026 00:30

Not being able to see the bigger picture. Autistic people can't pick up on nuances ,see outside of the box.

some autistic people can't pick up on nuance or see outside the box. Not all.

PrincessofWills · 08/08/2026 01:00

@Friendlygingercat you are incorrect when saying the person will have a tenancy.
A person who lives on the premises but has seperate accommodation to the landlord is an excluded occupier with basic protection. It's an important distinction.

randomchap · 08/08/2026 00:59

An annex? Are they really a lodger or a tenant? Lodger suggests a room in your house, that doesn't seem to fit the description.

Get legal advice before renting it out

AnonyMumAuDHD · 08/08/2026 00:53

Cluelessfirstimer · 07/08/2026 23:53

100% red flag. It wouldnt be a problem but now it is? Nah, absolutely not.

Hi X

Unfortunately we do require the deposit before you move in as previously mentioned.
We are not able to accommodate you sending some with the first months rent. As such, I think its best we do not continue. I wish you luck in securing your next place.

Just that is enough. She may well suddenly 'find' the deposit but even if she does the fact she has tried this shows she probably will again.

I’d take the advice above - only I would change the line: ‘I think it is best that we do not continue, so am ending our negotiations now. The contract I have sent you is no longer valid.’ This makes it very clear you are terminating contractual negotiations.

I’d also get some legal advice before proceeding with anyone else to ascertain whether anyone you rent to is a tenant or a lodger and which laws apply to them/you as landlord. You need to be sure you know your own rights as a landlord under the new laws before proceeding.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 08/08/2026 00:50

You need to read up on the law and ask questions as it sounds like you’re relying on good faith.

‘Good faith’ will lose you a lot of money and you might end up in a soul destroying court case.

Whatever you’re doing, stop and cancel the thing with her.

LifeOfAShowgirl13 · 08/08/2026 00:45

OP - is the annexe fully self-contained? Has its own kitchen and no spaces shared with you? If so, please please ensure that you understand the responsibilities of being a landlord and having a tenant as they will not be a lodger, they will be a tenant. You will need to do annual gas safety checks, put the deposit into an approved scheme, have an EICR completed every 5 years and before the tenant moves in…etc etc.

PussyGaylore · 08/08/2026 00:43

No - do not have her as a tenant. It’s a huge red flag

GLOBALBEES · 08/08/2026 00:30

dancehysterical22 · 07/08/2026 23:35

What does autism have to do with this?

Not being able to see the bigger picture. Autistic people can't pick up on nuances ,see outside of the box.

RetiredFromExplaining · 08/08/2026 00:29

blanketsnuggler · 08/08/2026 00:09

ok. sent the message. what do I do if she suddenly finds the full deposit now?

"Even if you can now pay the full deposit, I've decided not to go ahead, I don't think it'll work out."

blanketsnuggler · 08/08/2026 00:09

ok. sent the message. what do I do if she suddenly finds the full deposit now?

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nocoolnamesleft · 08/08/2026 00:07

"As in the contract, we need the deposit before moving in"

Bristolandlazy · 08/08/2026 00:06

What if she moved in and damaged your property etc, that's what the deposit is for surely. You can afford to be picky and get someone great as so many people are looking. Has she got good references?

OnTheBoardwalk · 08/08/2026 00:03

No way should you be putting ‘sorry’ in any of your messages to her, makes you sound like a soft touch, this is your house and your rent we are talking about here

the message should be ‘no that isn’t acceptable and I won’t be proceeding wth the proposed tenancy at this time’

Whenwillitrainagain · 08/08/2026 00:02

It doesn’t matter that you have sent the agreement, it’s fine to back off. She’s the one who has changed the goalposts

SusanJJ · 07/08/2026 23:57

You could say, 'Sorry but I need the deposit up front and if this isn't possible, the rental can't go ahead. Best wishes'.
You need to be clear and polite rather than kind.

Franjipanl8r · 07/08/2026 23:53

Just say “sorry I won’t be able to accommodate that request, let me know if that impacts whether you’d like to proceed with the rental” or something like that.