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The Jason Arday scandal

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Ilikesundays · 06/08/2026 21:55

To think that Cambridge University’s reputation has been shot to pieces by the revelations about ex-professor Jason Arday?

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notwavingbutdrowning1 · Today 14:52

AnonyMumAuDHD · Today 13:24

Some unis still do Foundation Years for students with lower grades than needed to go straight into the first year. The Access Course, also, used to operate on the same basis - my DD did that at 19/20, in stead of A levels as it confers UVAS points etc. it is totally geared towards university: research techniques and methodology, how to structure essays, APA and Harvard reference methods etc. all assessed by assignments, like many degrees now, rather than exams. She was much better prepared for university than I could ever imagine as a result and the quality of her assignments was absolutely undergraduate level. I was, tbh, rather blown away by what I was concerned was a ‘lesser’ qualification.

This is really excellent. A big issue at the university where I teach is that students come in from school with top grades but absolutely no preparation for academia and just churn out A-level-style essays. There really should be a bridging year for everyone - or schools should teach A level differently.

notwavingbutdrowning1 · Today 14:55

TeaAndALittlePeace · Today 13:31

Both Oxford and Cambridge dropped out of the top three universities in The Times university rankings for the first time ever recently. And this won’t help either.

In the Times, yes, but not in the other rankings.

In any case, league tables don't tell you much.

YourAzureRaven · Today 15:00

x2boys · Yesterday 10:20

I have a 16 year old non verbal son
I realuse some non verbal. Children do gain speech but ime they remain severly impaired and generally need a lot of support with basic life skills
So it seemed very far fetched to me.

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My own DD, diagnosed autistic and GDD at 4, is, at only 5 now, quite a bit more advanced than Arday claims to have been at that age (ie she has some speech and some literacy - actually she took to reciting the alphabet more than to communicating with us) but even with that she still struggles hugely. I cannot see how Arday's story can possibly be true (i just can't see how an autistic person with apparently such high academic potential would have remained both non verbal and illiterate for so long), though I must admit I was taken in for a time when I was looking for hope DD would improve.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · Today 15:14

notwavingbutdrowning1 · Today 14:52

This is really excellent. A big issue at the university where I teach is that students come in from school with top grades but absolutely no preparation for academia and just churn out A-level-style essays. There really should be a bridging year for everyone - or schools should teach A level differently.

I think the issue is with the A Level itself. If students are churning out A Level style essays it's because the marks are given in such a prescriptive way that it has to be taught in that way. I don't know how schools would be able to teach A Level any other way when the assessment is so prescriptive. Especially for essay subjects. The format is drilled into them because otherwise they will not get the marks. I don't know how you get round that. I did actually look at a Foundation degree course as a plan C for my DS at his first choice uni and it actually looked so good that I think he may do better in the long run if he did it. It looks exactly as you said- academic writing, research skills etc as well as other enrichment things like languages.

RafaFan · Today 15:16

Piknik · Yesterday 11:44

To all those saying that if he were a white middle aged man, his embellishments and outright lies would be less of a news story, you're probably right.

However, unfortunately for any minority group of people pushing at glass ceilings - whether that's because you are a woman, person of colour, person with a disability or anything else - your success makes you a sort of 'trailblazer' and poster-boy/girl. You therefore - righty or wrongly - carry additional responsibility to represent your 'group' and prove the doubters (racists/agists/misogynists/ableists etc) wrong.

When you fuck up. You don't just fuck up on a personal level, you feed the people who wanted you to fail.

Institutions like Cambridge should KNOW that minority groups - or anyone 'shaking things up' - are going to attract additional scrutiny from the haters so they should be absolutely rigorous on steroids.

I feel sorry for the people of colour, people with learning disabilities, people with health issues, who saw this man and thought he was a beacon of hope. I also think every one of his students deserves a refund.

Also, if he were a white, middle-aged man his appointment would not have made the national news, and Cambridge would not have made such a massive hoohaa about it.

He/Cambridge/the press built up his huge profile, so of course his downfall is going to be widely reported.

chirrupybird · Today 15:18

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 06:42

Bless him? He's a fraudster, who lied his way through his career and then used racism to silence people. Well done for falling for it.

What has actually been proved? I've only seen a lot of mud slinging.

x2boys · Today 15:23

YourAzureRaven · Today 15:00

My own DD, diagnosed autistic and GDD at 4, is, at only 5 now, quite a bit more advanced than Arday claims to have been at that age (ie she has some speech and some literacy - actually she took to reciting the alphabet more than to communicating with us) but even with that she still struggles hugely. I cannot see how Arday's story can possibly be true (i just can't see how an autistic person with apparently such high academic potential would have remained both non verbal and illiterate for so long), though I must admit I was taken in for a time when I was looking for hope DD would improve.

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Thats the heartbreaking thing people will cling to to anything that gives them hope, my 16 year old is totally non verbal
I have made my peace with it now and have long since accepted it but i can imagine in the early days i would have read about how he was " non verbal " untoll 11 and clung to it
Its really damaging
I hope your dsughters speech continues to improve.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:58

chirrupybird · Today 15:18

What has actually been proved? I've only seen a lot of mud slinging.

Then you're way behind so maybe read up?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:02

notwavingbutdrowning1 · Today 15:33

It doesn't align with my own experiences of race relations in education. I do agree with the main thrust of the article, just not about preferential treatment always going in one direction.

SevenYellowHammers · Today 16:03

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:58

Then you're way behind so maybe read up?

The only thing that is verified is that he was investigated for minor plagiarism and his PhD is intact

noctilucentcloud · Today 16:07

I think that regardless of what Arday has done (or not done), the motive of Cofhan in investigating him was race and that the reason it is getting so much coverage, particularly in likes of the Daily Mail, is also race and a dislike of DEI and perceived bias related to that. That makes me very uncomfortable. I do not think we would be in this position if a white middle aged male had done similar to Arday.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:07

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:02

It doesn't align with my own experiences of race relations in education. I do agree with the main thrust of the article, just not about preferential treatment always going in one direction.

To add, it's all very well saying white plagiarists aren't treated the same as black plagiarists, so why accuse critics of racism, when a black academic is found to have lied? It either is or isn't irrelevant.

Aluna · Today 16:13

notwavingbutdrowning1 · Today 15:33

This is spot on.

Aluna · Today 16:18

noctilucentcloud · Today 16:07

I think that regardless of what Arday has done (or not done), the motive of Cofhan in investigating him was race and that the reason it is getting so much coverage, particularly in likes of the Daily Mail, is also race and a dislike of DEI and perceived bias related to that. That makes me very uncomfortable. I do not think we would be in this position if a white middle aged male had done similar to Arday.

Agreed.

The story probably would have been reported had he been white but there wouldn’t be this hullabaloo.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:28

Aluna · Today 16:18

Agreed.

The story probably would have been reported had he been white but there wouldn’t be this hullabaloo.

If the white plagiarist had Walter Mittified his life, of course it would have got the same reaction. This isn't a stand alone accusation of plagiarism. If it were, there wouldn't be all this "hullabaloo". Invite heat and take the consequences.

YourAzureRaven · Today 16:37

x2boys · Today 15:23

Thats the heartbreaking thing people will cling to to anything that gives them hope, my 16 year old is totally non verbal
I have made my peace with it now and have long since accepted it but i can imagine in the early days i would have read about how he was " non verbal " untoll 11 and clung to it
Its really damaging
I hope your dsughters speech continues to improve.

Thank you, and yes it is really damaging, isn't it.

38thparallel · Today 16:38

The story probably would have been reported had he been white but there wouldn’t be this hullabaloo

If it had been a white, privately educated person from a rich family, there would have been a pile-on of derision and ridicule, though the criticism of the professor and those who appointed him would be ‘proof of discrimination in favour of poshos, deference and cap doffing, parents donated to college to get son/daughter’s place’ etc.
In any case it’s more than just plagiarism and lies, such as the students who pay a fortune and got a poor deal and critics and journalists who were seen off with legal threats.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:42

38thparallel · Today 16:38

The story probably would have been reported had he been white but there wouldn’t be this hullabaloo

If it had been a white, privately educated person from a rich family, there would have been a pile-on of derision and ridicule, though the criticism of the professor and those who appointed him would be ‘proof of discrimination in favour of poshos, deference and cap doffing, parents donated to college to get son/daughter’s place’ etc.
In any case it’s more than just plagiarism and lies, such as the students who pay a fortune and got a poor deal and critics and journalists who were seen off with legal threats.

Its all being painted as so innocent.

Aluna · Today 16:46

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:28

If the white plagiarist had Walter Mittified his life, of course it would have got the same reaction. This isn't a stand alone accusation of plagiarism. If it were, there wouldn't be all this "hullabaloo". Invite heat and take the consequences.

I don’t agree. I think it would be in the news if he were white but it wouldn’t be this big a story. Whatever personal beef about race this provides a platform for it - such as your finger wagging about DEI initiatives.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:49

Aluna · Today 16:46

I don’t agree. I think it would be in the news if he were white but it wouldn’t be this big a story. Whatever personal beef about race this provides a platform for it - such as your finger wagging about DEI initiatives.

I haven't 'wagged my finger' about DEI initiatives.

Noodledog · Today 16:53

38thparallel · Today 16:38

The story probably would have been reported had he been white but there wouldn’t be this hullabaloo

If it had been a white, privately educated person from a rich family, there would have been a pile-on of derision and ridicule, though the criticism of the professor and those who appointed him would be ‘proof of discrimination in favour of poshos, deference and cap doffing, parents donated to college to get son/daughter’s place’ etc.
In any case it’s more than just plagiarism and lies, such as the students who pay a fortune and got a poor deal and critics and journalists who were seen off with legal threats.

I agree, and the silencing of a THE journalist by setting a notoriously aggressive law firm (who have built their reputation by acting as a weapon for the rich and influential to shut down investigation into their actions) needs far more scrutiny. Apart from anything else, I can't believe a university professor could afford their fees from their own pocket, so who was paying?

Getting the police to investigate the journalist, and despite them closing the case, still telling him to stop his investigation is another disturbing factor.

This is very much not just a case of simple plagiarism.

attichoarder · Today 16:55

It would have been in the news if the individual had been white, however it would not have got this level as the checks would have been made more throughly.

renovationchoas · Today 16:55

@Aluna

i think though that if he had been white, Cambridge would never have promoted him so quickly (or even hired him) on such thin credentials and dug in when questions were raised. It’s a shame that Cambridge went for a tokenistic hire - that hurts everyone involved - rather than playing a longer game with candidates from minority backgrounds who are genuinely brilliant

KatiePricesKnickers · Today 16:57

notwavingbutdrowning1 · Today 15:33

When backed into a corner, claim racism.