AIBU to think redundancy crisis is not getting enough media coverage?

The way that ime it happens is that the uk company will restructure itself so that it can offload a department/division to a consultancy who then initially take over the staff and then slowly (or not) replace them with cheaper resources and the original company does not have to declare any redundancies.

Just to add if your DH is thought to be permanently disabled he will go into the support group. This means his ESA is ongoing not restricted to a year.
I'm in this group due to a cancer diagnosis, surgery and ongoing autoimmune conditions.

I am trying to get a local job but I get ghosted. I can manage, just.
I was in luxury goods and that industry is failing.

I think you’re confusing two processes. You can get someone to leave without sacking them or making them redundant, by compromise agreement- by mutual agreement you agree to terminate the employment contract by paying off the employee. It wouldn’t be possible to do this en mass to 600 people, but pretty much every senior person in a company leaves like this.

a TR1 is a legal requirement. Companies can’t get round it with mass compromise agreements.

They don’t. A company can only sponser a visa (at great expense to them) for qualifying roles that pay more than £41k. No chicken shop or vape shop pays that.

In what sectors/industries?

My brother was made redundant a couple of years ago, my SIL and my best friend lost their university jobs last year. My dad took redundancy in covid. My work let go of 15 people before xmas, and another 15 a year before that. Ive dodged a few in the last 18 yrs but tbh, im just waiting for my luck to run out. Terrifying.

Not Social Media. It's because of the jobs that are going. There were plenty of jobs in the South East when we peaked UK unemployment rate at 11.9 perc in 1984. Just not for a third of the Country with their absolute skill base. I left a fee paying school for university in 1985. Even though I lived in a mining area of Yorkshire with unemployment around 20 percent, I always thought that there would be jobs for me. Get educated, supportive family with contacts, good old school network and you'd get a career. And guess what, there was and I did get a career. But if you left the local comprehensive looking to go into the traditional industries of Yorkshire then you were going to be one of the 11.9 to 20 percent. Also if you worked in them you were going to be made redundent at 50 or 40 with no other work. That's the evolving situation now for the traditional education route into employment.
It will be interesting to see how resiliant the educated middle class actually are.

The nurses that are leaving university are struggling to get jobs so there is no point training anymore. As I understand it the NHS is short of nurses but has no money to employ them.

The PCT/CCG/ICB (and NHSE) could always send vast numbers of people to meetings and conferences - the clinical side could only send one or two because of cost and because there was too much work to be done back at base (pesky patients will insist on being ill).

And yet we're still recruiting from overseas. My daughter qualified as a nurse a year ago. Her university guarantees all newly qualifieds a job - it took 8 months for her to be offered a place and when she started there was a nurse from India who started BEFORE her 🤯 And this job hadn't even been advertised!

Exactly what I was going to post. Lots of variety in roles, hybrid and flexible working in some.

I'm 50 and looking for a job , having been a carer for a long time ..they don't bother to reply to your application..it's so rude .. clearly I'm not going to get anything judging by this thread ..but in was coming to that conclusion already,I've been ruling jobs out by if they haven't replied after 3 weeks I assume no interview..

A lot? Really? Not my employer. We’re seeing redundancies every few months at my company as it’s doing so badly and they are trying to make themselves look more solvent. Entire teams are wiped out and then other teams are being asked to take on their work and are made to feel thankful for it.

Very keen to recruit second career people/those with life experience too

As for a war. Where's this war going to be that the UKs soldiers etc are going to fight?

If it was civil war then it would be civilians fighting each other but maybe its outcome would depend on which side the army fought on - though they may not all fight for the same side.
>> goes to google ‘armed forces in civil wars’<<

The redundancy crisis is often a management consultancy crisis. These huge firms take top dollar to do work that could've been done internally, and to recommend yet further redundancies that generate more demand for consultancy.

Speaking as one of the recent redundancies who has been immediately replaced by consultants!

Southwest of England.
A lot of school cleaning jobs aren’t over 16 hours a week, she has found by advertising 16+ hours a week she gets a lot more applicants.
Our local school was looking for someone 2.5 hours a day, they struggled to fill it.

This.

My job is working with businesses owners. Increased employment cost with NI and increased admin with worker rights means a lot of them are actively saying they will never employ someone for their first job again as it’s too risky and too difficult of a mistake to fix, and who are managing the NIC cost by cutting hours and increasing AI/automation.

It’s like the last government (TBD on this one) actively wanted there to be fewer jobs available.

Aren't there £1m unemployed graduates? There are far too many graduates not too few.

It's counterintuitive but nurses can't get jobs. There's a shortage but no funding to hire them...

It's terrible in the charity sector. So many great people being made redundant and no new roles to go to. A lot of it is genuinely about cost savings but I've definitely seen it used instead of capability processes.

This was always going to happen with AI.

As PP said Labour policy has exacerbated it by making it too risky to employ new, unknown people and not doing enough to curb visas / immigration.

I only hope it ramps up significantly in the next 3 years so they don't get reelected.

Who are we going to fight though?

I would advise your friend to be extremely cautious. Im a CS and some ex-colleagues of mine that took voluntary exit over 12months ago still havent found a new role yet on a similar assumption. Make sure they are absolutely certain there are roles out there (not just assuming), because my colleagues are regretting taking the package now.

I dont know, this is usually just a pre cursor to war isnt it.

I could see a civil war happening, against immigration