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AIBU to think redundancy crisis is not getting enough media coverage?

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aliboob44 · 06/08/2026 13:22

To think there is not anywhere near enough media coverage about the redundancies across the country? I spent a long time reading a chat on here a few days ago, which I can’t for the life of me find, with post after post of stories of recent redundancy and job searches, either personally or of spouse / child. The same on other popular forums, this seems to be affecting thousands and thousands of people yet I don’t see it being talked about anywhere near enough! I appreciate the bbc did a short bit recently on young people and the job market but this is different. This is a huge disaster - losing jobs at a stage of life when you’ve got multiple responsibilities with limited, if any, options to go into. What can we do to get this into media, perhaps there is someone on here who could help get it the coverage it needs? I’m terrified frankly.

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aCatCalledFawkes · 06/08/2026 17:41

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 17:31

Indian based consultancy ? A lot of companies are not calling it redundancy because they would have to declare it and it is by way of a separation agreement and therefore dont have to announce/declare it.
Also its not just AI, it is cheaper resources in other countries, proof will be in how long this arrangement persists for if the uk ever stats to recover. This has happened in previous recessions, but the quality of work produced was then dire. Maybe that will have changed, but from my recent interractions there is still a ways to go.

I have just been through a huge redundancy that outsourced a huge process to was to India, same redundancy wave took out the whole of software engineering to third party products, probably about 7/600 people over the last two years. Whilst I can understand that there might be smaller companies that possibly don't follow the correct processes, it's probably not on the same scale or level that corporate companies are doing it right now at the moment.
Also how can you call something a redundancy crisis is it's not being called redundancy on an official level? That's a different problem that needs to be investigated.

ghostperfume6 · 06/08/2026 17:41

I was made redundant may 2025 but kept on retention until August 2025
started new job sept 2025 (they waited from May for me) and made redundant from there nov 2025
started new job nov 2025 (out of work 9 days) and hoping that’s the end of it!

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 17:48

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/08/2026 17:41

I have just been through a huge redundancy that outsourced a huge process to was to India, same redundancy wave took out the whole of software engineering to third party products, probably about 7/600 people over the last two years. Whilst I can understand that there might be smaller companies that possibly don't follow the correct processes, it's probably not on the same scale or level that corporate companies are doing it right now at the moment.
Also how can you call something a redundancy crisis is it's not being called redundancy on an official level? That's a different problem that needs to be investigated.

They pay more than statutory redundancy in order to get a mutual agreement. It is legal and non reportable because they can state that it is due to economic conditions ie uk workers are too expensive and technically not a redundancy. Happy to be corrected by an HR expert, but have been through similar processes many times.

Theworldsgonemadagain · 06/08/2026 17:48

Plenty of work in construction. Encouraging your sons and daughters to do apprenticeships would be the sensible option to future proof them. Doing IT jobs, accounting, most computer base jobs is pointless most of those jobs will be gone soon. Too late for me I work in finance, I suspect my job will be gone in a few years but my other half is in construction earning good money so we will be ok.

herewegoagainonwednesday · 06/08/2026 17:49

I’ve been in big companies for the last 20 years (3 different ones), redundancy waves come like clockwork every 18-24 months. Nothing has changed in my opinion, its just how big companies work.

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 17:50

herewegoagainonwednesday · 06/08/2026 17:49

I’ve been in big companies for the last 20 years (3 different ones), redundancy waves come like clockwork every 18-24 months. Nothing has changed in my opinion, its just how big companies work.

The numbers are far worse in recent years imo

Meadowfinch · 06/08/2026 17:51

Going back to the OP's original question, yes there are huge numbers of redundancies, and yes there should be more coverage and support. Downsides of that are:

  1. The govt doesn't want to draw more attention to the mess their budget created.
  2. Hearing endless doom & gloom wouldn't help with confidence.

I am 63. I was very lucky to find a new full time role after my last employer went bust during covid. Now I'd say my chances are tiny to none despite a degree, a professional qualification, 40 years experience and a clean bill of health.
I will have to rely on my pension and hope I pick up something part time. Many are not so lucky.

ThatLilacTiger · 06/08/2026 17:52

Thatfattrollop · 06/08/2026 13:44

Is there a current crisis though? Or just anecdotal reports. Are there any stats on this?

The state of HE is a catastrophe in itself, let alone all the other industries struggling.

Morethanadecade · 06/08/2026 17:53

The BBC have just done a big piece about unemployed women in their 50s.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvl8y141e4o

herewegoagainonwednesday · 06/08/2026 17:53

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 17:50

The numbers are far worse in recent years imo

Not where I work. The last 6 redundancy waves (all in the last 10 years) were all about the same size, the same for everyone else I know (all big consumer goods companies). It’s brutal every time, but utterly predictable - we just came out of one, the next one should be autumn 2027/spring 2028.

Theworldsgonemadagain · 06/08/2026 17:55

lessglittermoremud · 06/08/2026 17:10

It’s not just redundancies due to AI etc
People are coming out of retirement/working for longer, couples with with children both needing to work (when I was growing up (80’s) families would usually have a Mum at home whilst the children were small).
Added to the increases in NI and minimum wage many places are doing the same amount of work with less staff.
We have a family business, as people have left, they haven’t been replaced. We are working longer hours ourselves and drafting in family members who are retired to help on busy days during the season.

I was talking to a friend that manages a cleaning company, they were looking got 1 person to work 4-8 in a school. For that one job they had over 300 applicants in 24 hours. It was a mixture of people looking to take on second jobs, parents that were looking for jobs around childcare, older people looking to top up pensions and people that had been out of work due to redundancies, desperately looking for anything to tie them over.

Crikey where was this? In our school we can't get cleaners for love nor money. They always had issues getting reliable ones and would often not turn up loads of sickness so outsourced it and they are even worse! We didn't have any for ages, the caretaker ended up hoovering and emptying bins himself. It's the same at lots of schools. I imagine the hours aren't appealing to many, maybe not enough hours. Who knows. Perhaps it depends on area of the country if there's more choice of jobs or not.

38thparallel · 06/08/2026 17:55

We're due a war soon. Things cant carry on like this.
@kwikfitt

Civil war or a war against another country?

kwikfitt · 06/08/2026 17:56

38thparallel · 06/08/2026 17:55

We're due a war soon. Things cant carry on like this.
@kwikfitt

Civil war or a war against another country?

War on uk soil - although yes perhaps a civil war!

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/08/2026 17:56

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 17:48

They pay more than statutory redundancy in order to get a mutual agreement. It is legal and non reportable because they can state that it is due to economic conditions ie uk workers are too expensive and technically not a redundancy. Happy to be corrected by an HR expert, but have been through similar processes many times.

Yes I know about enhanced redundancy pay because I have just taken it but it has to be declared as redundancy pay in order for it to meet the criteria of it not being taxed. My role has still gone, we still went through consultation. With the greatest respect, I was more than happy to take my enhanced pay over statutory pay which was measly in comparison.
Sorry, I’m lost in what point you are making?

MidnightMeltdown · 06/08/2026 17:57

Because the unemployment rate isn’t particularly high yet. Currently around 4.9% I think.

Between 2009 and 2014 is was around 8%.

Mildmanneredmum · 06/08/2026 17:58

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 17:48

They pay more than statutory redundancy in order to get a mutual agreement. It is legal and non reportable because they can state that it is due to economic conditions ie uk workers are too expensive and technically not a redundancy. Happy to be corrected by an HR expert, but have been through similar processes many times.

This isn't true, on many counts. All proposed redundancies over 20 in number have to be notified to the government on an HR1 form, including the reasons, of which economic is one. So the redundancy is genuine and legal; what the company chooses to pay - statutory or enhanced - is down to the company and a separate issue.

Minasama · 06/08/2026 18:00

Anecdotally I know of four people who have lost jobs in my industry and taken 18 months - 2 years to find another role. I lost my job and took a lower-level role as a stopgap six months ago - I haven’t been approached by a single recruiter in that time.
Neither of the above has ever happened before that I’ve known of in 26 years in the workforce.

ChequerToRed · 06/08/2026 18:05

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/08/2026 14:04

I wonder if he works where I did. Huge restructure in feb that laid off the whole of software engineering.

Hmmm…Bristol based warehousing and distribution company that went tits up late last year and got bought out?

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 18:05

Lots of vacancies in prisons and probation if people need jobs , seriously under resourced and can't recruit the people they need

MidnightMeltdown · 06/08/2026 18:05

MidnightMeltdown · 06/08/2026 17:57

Because the unemployment rate isn’t particularly high yet. Currently around 4.9% I think.

Between 2009 and 2014 is was around 8%.

In fact if you go back as far as the 80s and 90s, there were periods when unemployment was over 10%. So by historical standards, unemployment is still low.

I think there just more hysteria now because of social media.

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 18:06

Mildmanneredmum · 06/08/2026 17:58

This isn't true, on many counts. All proposed redundancies over 20 in number have to be notified to the government on an HR1 form, including the reasons, of which economic is one. So the redundancy is genuine and legal; what the company chooses to pay - statutory or enhanced - is down to the company and a separate issue.

So where are all these 'redundancies' (they dont even call them that btw) reported and can i go double check?
Maybe a previous person on this thread and myself are both mistaken about both witnessing 600+ jobs being 'redeployed for economic reasons' within 18 months??

38thparallel · 06/08/2026 18:07

War on uk soil - although yes perhaps a civil war!

I wouldn’t be surprised - though I don’t know if it would be the have-nots against the haves or religious war or racial.
If it’s the have-nots against the haves then they, the have-nots, must get their skates on and be careful of traitors in their midst as the very rich will be off in their private jets at the hint of a revolution.
Civil War will make for interesting reading on mumsnet.

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/08/2026 18:08

ChequerToRed · 06/08/2026 18:05

Hmmm…Bristol based warehousing and distribution company that went tits up late last year and got bought out?

No north based company but exactly the same thing. I still find it somewhere between laughable and infuriating that they think they taking a whole department out in 6mnths isn’t go to backfire. I have heard whispers the place is in chaos!

Hennypenny3 · 06/08/2026 18:13

parkintrouble · 06/08/2026 14:57

What I don't get is why we have a redundancy crisis but there are no huge programmes to retrain people in shortage careers like nursing. It's mind boggling we can have a redundancy crisis yet our hospitals are full of nursing staff who can barely speak basic English.

Why are so many people arriving on skilled visa applications..
skilled workers to work in chicken shops ...your not a skilled worker selling fried chicken
,or supermarkets run by immigrants..they are bringing in people to do jobs that people living here would do .I watched one programme where a man who's English was so poor he couldn't answer the questions properly..yet he managed to bring in 20 ..skilled workers on visas to work in his supermarket in London.
This is madness

Mangetouts · 06/08/2026 18:14

kwikfitt · 06/08/2026 14:00

All the staff in tesco and sainsburys are people who should be retired! Theres a huge problem.

People who can't afford to retire probably and under 67. All the staff in my Tesco are young so it's maybe the demographic in your area.

As for a war. Where's this war going to be that the UKs soldiers etc are going to fight? The face of war is changing anyway, not as many boots on the ground like the last umpteen wars or conflicts. I can't see any government worth their salt agreeing to anything that requires conscription either.