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Job market is awful

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Flowerpowerz · 03/08/2026 19:34

I work in pharma (general field) and the job market is horrendous. I’m seeing a huge trend towards AI which is not surprising. Perhaps more concerning is the massive uptick of offshore partners aka shipping work out to India because they are cheaper than people in the uk and USA. I have several friends in several related companies (technology, IT, coding) that have lost jobs due to this. They are being expected to share knowledge with their Indian colleagues before their redundancy kicks in.

I have honestly never known it so bad. My linked in is a sea of “open to work”

is it just me or has anyone else noticed these trends? It’s worse than ever

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SwirlyGates · 06/08/2026 10:34

SadiraOfTyr · 06/08/2026 10:16

That's because the kind of jobs that 16 year olds could do in an office no longer exist. There are no typists, filing clerks, mail clerks, etc any more. About the only office job available to school leavers now is receptionist, and even then that is less accessible than it was as most larger companies will want someone who is multilingual and very polished.

I temped for a while after graduation, and one of the jobs was Office Junior. I spent 2 weeks franking letters, photocopying, stuffing envelopes etc., while they advertised for a permanent staff member. The person going through the CVs was filtering some out - "She won't want it, she's got O-levels." Shock "Nope, he's a man, he won't stay, in the bin." Shock

Goatsarebest · 06/08/2026 10:51

amala18 · 04/08/2026 13:36

I wanted to live in England as I thought it would be nice, but I have been unhappy in my life since Ive moved here.

The main thing: is the people. I start to feel like I'm living in a weird zombieland

In other countries, people are so friendly, kind chatty. They help each other along.

In England, many people I've met have been cold, unempathetic and seem completely unable to have a chat.

I went to Ireland last week. I went to a shop.I had never met the person working there. She heard me cough. She said 'ah do you have a cold you poor pet, I had one last week'. Then she started chatting about something else. Just a minor chatty interaaction with a stranger. i went into a cafe then, and the woman also chatted away.

Ive lived in the same town in England for two years. The people have always been unfriendly. I've gone to the same local shop for years. If I mention the weather or anything to get a small bit of chat going, they glare at me. So now I don't say anything.

A woman that I work with has an Italian student staying with her for the summer.

She said the student turned to her and said 'why are the people so weird here in England'

It's the unfriendliness that needs to be changed.

Edited

I think it depends where in England you are. My Irish born and brought up in Ireland Daughter lives in Yorkshire and says it's the friendliest place she has ever lived. She has lived in different European Countries and South America.

CandidLurker · 06/08/2026 10:56

IDontHateRainbows · 04/08/2026 06:19

I work in HR and this has a name...restructure by attrition. Basically see how you make do after people leave as you can't get budget to backfill. We even have a list of not to replace roles already identified, although at least we are not at the point of enforcing redundancies

They need this strategy at my local council….there are lots of roles they could do without and others that are vital but under-resourced e.g. bin lorry drivers and loaders.

CandidLurker · 06/08/2026 11:02

I try to avoid companies that have offshore call centres but often it’s impossible to avoid. I recently discovered my once northern based car insurance company has its call centre in what sounded like South Africa or Philippines.

I’m fortunate and not on the tightest of budgets so next time my car insurance is due for renewal I will try to find a company with UK based staff.

I am trying to do my own small bit to provide work for people in this country.

Labraradabrador · 06/08/2026 13:27

SadiraOfTyr · 06/08/2026 10:24

Because China, despite being at the forefront of automation, has by far the worlds largest manufacturing industry and required literally millions of engineers and product designers to keep that industry at the forefront of innovation.

Not really. There has been a long building crisis in youth unemployment https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jul/13/china-graduate-glut-young-people-job-market-tech-ai

it isn’t really any different to the uk - if anything it is worse due to the explosion of third tier universities in the 90s that produce degrees not worth the paper they are written on

China’s graduate glut: millions enter a job market with little use for them

Record numbers find there is little demand for their skills, as entry-level tech roles are hit by AI and automation

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jul/13/china-graduate-glut-young-people-job-market-tech-ai

Brownbananaspot · 06/08/2026 15:47

CandidLurker · 06/08/2026 10:56

They need this strategy at my local council….there are lots of roles they could do without and others that are vital but under-resourced e.g. bin lorry drivers and loaders.

What kind of roles do you think they can do without? Just curious.

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