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AIBU to think my sister is overreacting about our drinking?

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ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:07

Just after some outside opinions because I'm genuinely not sure whether my sister has a point or whether she's being overly judgemental.

DH and I have been together since university and are now in our early 50s. We have two sons. Our eldest has just finished university and starts a graduate scheme in investment banking in London in a few weeks. Our youngest gets his A-level results in a couple of weeks and, hopefully, will be applying to study Economics and Maths and will be going to university sept 2026 after taking a gap year travelling. He plans to go after Christmas and is using money we saved for him to spend on whatever he wanted, he’s chosen to go travel all over South America solo we plan to meet him in a few countries.

DH retired early a couple of years ago. He's not old enough to draw his private pension yet, but we'd planned well financially and he reached the point where he simply didn't need to work anymore. I still work two days a week because I enjoy it.

We've always been sociable people and, if I'm honest, we've always enjoyed a drink. Even back at university we were the ones organising nights out, and that side of us has never really changed. We travel a lot, go away for weekends, love jazz bars with live music and dancing, go out for meals, have friends over regularly and I absolutely love hosting dinner parties. Our house has always been the one where people gather.

Life has changed recently though. Our boys are adults now and quite rightly have their own lives. They both have girlfriends, they're building their own futures and we've naturally had to take a bit of a back seat as parents. That's exactly how it should be, and we're proud of them, but it does mean our lives are much quieter than they were when they were younger.

In a few weeks our eldest will move into London for work, and next year our youngest will head off travelling before university, so it'll just be the two of us most of the time. We actually like each other's company and have always enjoyed going out together, so that's never worried either of us.

The issue is this. My sister stayed with us for a long weekend recently. One evening we had friends over for dinner. We opened wine while I was cooking and everyone had a couple of glasses over the course of the evening. The next night we went to the pub with friends and I had three glasses of wine over several hours while DH had a couple of pints and a whisky. The following evening we stayed in, cooked dinner together and shared a bottle of wine while watching a film.

A few days after she'd gone home she rang me and said she was actually worried about us. She said she'd noticed we seemed to drink every day and thought we'd normalised alcohol to an unhealthy extent. She even used the word "alcoholics", which completely took me aback. I’ve said to her we just like having fun, we aren’t drinking at 8am every morning, we aren’t arguing, we like good alcohol that’s all and we don’t really have any responsibilities.

The thing is, she's not entirely wrong that we drink most evenings. If I'm not commuting into London the next day I'll often have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. If I'm off the following day we might share a bottle. If we're out with friends we'll drink then too.

Neither of us has ever missed work because of drinking. We don't drink in the mornings, don't hide alcohol, don't become unpleasant after drinking and we can easily go without if one of us is driving, we're travelling somewhere or we're doing something where drinking isn't appropriate.

My sister barely drinks herself. She might have a glass of prosecco at Christmas or a wedding and that's about it, so perhaps her idea of normal is very different from ours.
DH thinks she's being ridiculous and says we've simply reached a stage in life where we have time, disposable income and enjoy good food, entertaining and a drink together. He says we're not neglecting anyone or anything because there really aren't many day-to-day responsibilities anymore.

I wasn't worried until she said it, but now I'm wondering if we've drifted into drinking so regularly that we've stopped noticing it.

AIBU to think she's overreacting?

OP posts:
4t4 · 02/08/2026 19:29

IMO you drink way too much for your age. You are, or soon will be, menopausal. Alcohol is then much worse for you. Cancer, liver issues etc. Just cut it down or quit.

themoirarosee · 02/08/2026 19:30

ByJollyQuail · 02/08/2026 00:10

I don’t know my units

Based on your first post you’re in excess of 30+ per week.

That’s too much, no judgement but tone it down for your livers sake.

Daftypants · 02/08/2026 19:30

From what you described you’re way over the guideline limits !
Add up how many units in a week and you’ll likely be really surprised.
half a bottle of wine is about 5 units of alcohol.
Your sister maybe came across as being judgmental but she is probably concerned

August1980 · 02/08/2026 19:31

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:14

I got to an arts club once a week, we cycle, DH goes and plays golf with friends he usually goes at about 10am and doesn’t drink at that time.

That’s it? That’s all the hobbies your got? An art club, cycling and golfing?

anyway none of her business really what you two do but is do bothered by it why not calculate your units per week against the guidance?
It sounds like you are both trying to hard to have it all!

Stelladid · 02/08/2026 19:32

Superscientist · 01/08/2026 22:25

My grandad had 2-3 pints a day every day for decades. At 65 he was told he had 50% liver function and that they daily low- moderate drinking was the cause. Drinking every day, even if not impacting life will be impacting your liver. The issue with the liver is that it copes very well until it doesn't.
Tot up your weekly unit and introduce 2 days a week with no alcohol.

This 👆 Also, I have yet to meet anyone who likes to drink a lot, or every day to acknowledge to themselves how much they are really drinking. How large are the glasses your couple are in and does a couple really only mean 2 a day?

4t4 · 02/08/2026 19:32

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:11

What are retired folks supposed to do rather than enjoy life. We like nice things, we like going out and being social, we have a good group of friends who like being social so what’s the big deal.

Well if you don’t curb your drinking, you’ll be making a hobby out of hospital stays and visits.

Daftypants · 02/08/2026 19:35

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 23:59

Thanks to all the nice lovely people there’s sufmee some judgmental people on here on Their hughshorese

Jesus wept ..how much have you had ..

Stelladid · 02/08/2026 19:52

BeddysMum · 02/08/2026 18:48

She may or may not have a point, but if it upset you then maybe just take a minute.

I have 2 alcoholic exes so I have a little experience to draw on here. Neither was an obvious alcoholic to the outside world, they were what you might call functioning alcoholics.

Neither of them drank at 8am, neither of them was an "unpleasant" drunk, if anything one was far more pleasant and fun! Neither missed work because of it nor hid alcohol.

The one thing they struggled with was to go without, but they were certain it was just "social" or to "relax" or help with stress or back pain. The list went on.

Addiction to alcohol was a slow and slippery slope for both of them and one "test" suggested to me was to politely and nicely suggest they not drink for one evening and see how they reacted and if they could do it.

Both got angry and defensive at the suggestion they might want to think about their consumption level or consider not drinking one or two nights a week.

Much as she might be annoying, it might also be a good moment to consider taking a break from alcohol, just to review things. Maybe get an outside opinion from a professional (not us schmucks on Mumsnet!) There's no harm, and you don't have to tell her! 😜

Addiction can creep up on you and as a nurse once told me, addicts always have a list of "logical reasons" as to why they're definitely not addicts!

Here's to your good health!

My alcoholic husband could give up alcohol for a week, or even two (to prove he wasn’t an alcoholic (inside he was barely hanging in there, but he could do it). As you say, it’s a slippery slope. By the time I kicked him out, he was constantly drinking in waking hours and would even wake up during the night and have ‘a drink’ before going back to sleep. Thankfully, me chucking him out turned out to be his personal rock bottom. He went into rehab and aside from a brief lapse 3 years ago, he has been sober for 7 years 🙂

Sometimesitsmyownfault · 02/08/2026 19:53

Just sounds like a boozy weekend to me. Is your sister always such a Debbie Downer?

DeftGoldHedgehog · 02/08/2026 19:53

I can't really vote either way. It sounds like you are having a lot of units of alcohol which is not great for your health, even though it's not affecting your normal every day activity. I would advise most nights having a cup of tea instead of opening wine, or a lime and soda etc. I drink water and coffee mostly but sometimes I want something different in the evening, but it doesn't have to be alcohol.

Having friends over for dinner and wine disappearing a little enthusiastically is fine, but the next night I wouldn't be feeling like cracking open the wine again, personally. I'd be giving my liver a chance to recover. As an example this weekend we were away at the coast. I had three glasses of wine with food on Friday night. On Saturday I had one Aperol Spritz and one bottle of lager. Today - nothing, and I probably won't have a drink until the weekend. The Friday night consumption was more than usual, but even so that's only ten or so units in total for the week.

Do stuff together that doesn't involve drinking. DH and I go to the gym together twice a week, for example.

Melancholyflower · 02/08/2026 19:56

JustGiveMeReason · 02/08/2026 17:06

It’s your age group, you do all drink a lot.

Get away with your ridiculous generalisations.

I know!
Plenty of people on here who are obviously in the same age group have said that the OP (if genuine) drinks too much, and lots have said they hardly/don't drink alcohol anymore, although lots of them probably did lots of 'partying' when young.

REP22 · 02/08/2026 20:01

ByJollyQuail · 02/08/2026 00:27

Mn is so jusge when I first joined yrs ago it wasnt like this women are judgmental to othefff so much so ssd be kind

The original post sounded OK. But as it wore on it got sadder and sadder. A booze-fuelled meltdown in real time. I recognise it because a lot of it used to be like me; increasingly incoherent posting and angry self-justification, particularly at voices that are trying to be kind (of which there were many about last night). It took me years to pull free. I kept my job and outwardly successful social life. Very, very few people would ever have thought I had a "problem". But I did.

@ByJollyQuail - I really hope you are feeling OK today. If you want to, I really recommend The Sober Diaries by Clare Pooley (based on her blog "Mummy was a Secret Drinker"). It's funny, smart and non-preachy. A good read, even if you don't feel you've got a problem.

Best wishes to you. x

YourTwinklyduck · 02/08/2026 20:04

Worth noting that alcohol affects your sex drive, by increasing mental desire by relaxation but... reducing arousal, causing vaginal dryness and slower nerve responses...
It's a direct bladder irritant, so can cause cystitis

Stelladid · 02/08/2026 20:05

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 23:29

My husband won’t tone it down he likes drinking and going out and socialising

Then you need to take better care of yourself. Develop more interests without him that don’t involve drinking. If you are unhappy in your marriage (and it sounds like you are and are trying to bury that in booze), think about leaving. I got out of my previous marriage after 29 years. I was 49. I decided I’d rather be alone than look at him anymore 🤣 Turned out, I met the love of my life after that. We have been together 18 years now. Find yourself. Meet your own needs.

TwisterSpice · 02/08/2026 20:10

Sometimesitsmyownfault · 02/08/2026 19:53

Just sounds like a boozy weekend to me. Is your sister always such a Debbie Downer?

Ffs read all of OPs posts before commenting!

Mumto2at · 02/08/2026 20:11

I'm a nurse, and it's surprising how many people are alcoholics that don't think they are because they're not drinking as soon as they wake up till they pass out. I've had patients that have 2-3 beers most evenings go into withdrawals. If you're drinking over the units majority of nights your body is fully aware and expecting that drink. You are drinking in excess, try and stick to the units or atleast give yourself a couple of days break in between

Swimmingteacher21 · 02/08/2026 20:13

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:07

Just after some outside opinions because I'm genuinely not sure whether my sister has a point or whether she's being overly judgemental.

DH and I have been together since university and are now in our early 50s. We have two sons. Our eldest has just finished university and starts a graduate scheme in investment banking in London in a few weeks. Our youngest gets his A-level results in a couple of weeks and, hopefully, will be applying to study Economics and Maths and will be going to university sept 2026 after taking a gap year travelling. He plans to go after Christmas and is using money we saved for him to spend on whatever he wanted, he’s chosen to go travel all over South America solo we plan to meet him in a few countries.

DH retired early a couple of years ago. He's not old enough to draw his private pension yet, but we'd planned well financially and he reached the point where he simply didn't need to work anymore. I still work two days a week because I enjoy it.

We've always been sociable people and, if I'm honest, we've always enjoyed a drink. Even back at university we were the ones organising nights out, and that side of us has never really changed. We travel a lot, go away for weekends, love jazz bars with live music and dancing, go out for meals, have friends over regularly and I absolutely love hosting dinner parties. Our house has always been the one where people gather.

Life has changed recently though. Our boys are adults now and quite rightly have their own lives. They both have girlfriends, they're building their own futures and we've naturally had to take a bit of a back seat as parents. That's exactly how it should be, and we're proud of them, but it does mean our lives are much quieter than they were when they were younger.

In a few weeks our eldest will move into London for work, and next year our youngest will head off travelling before university, so it'll just be the two of us most of the time. We actually like each other's company and have always enjoyed going out together, so that's never worried either of us.

The issue is this. My sister stayed with us for a long weekend recently. One evening we had friends over for dinner. We opened wine while I was cooking and everyone had a couple of glasses over the course of the evening. The next night we went to the pub with friends and I had three glasses of wine over several hours while DH had a couple of pints and a whisky. The following evening we stayed in, cooked dinner together and shared a bottle of wine while watching a film.

A few days after she'd gone home she rang me and said she was actually worried about us. She said she'd noticed we seemed to drink every day and thought we'd normalised alcohol to an unhealthy extent. She even used the word "alcoholics", which completely took me aback. I’ve said to her we just like having fun, we aren’t drinking at 8am every morning, we aren’t arguing, we like good alcohol that’s all and we don’t really have any responsibilities.

The thing is, she's not entirely wrong that we drink most evenings. If I'm not commuting into London the next day I'll often have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. If I'm off the following day we might share a bottle. If we're out with friends we'll drink then too.

Neither of us has ever missed work because of drinking. We don't drink in the mornings, don't hide alcohol, don't become unpleasant after drinking and we can easily go without if one of us is driving, we're travelling somewhere or we're doing something where drinking isn't appropriate.

My sister barely drinks herself. She might have a glass of prosecco at Christmas or a wedding and that's about it, so perhaps her idea of normal is very different from ours.
DH thinks she's being ridiculous and says we've simply reached a stage in life where we have time, disposable income and enjoy good food, entertaining and a drink together. He says we're not neglecting anyone or anything because there really aren't many day-to-day responsibilities anymore.

I wasn't worried until she said it, but now I'm wondering if we've drifted into drinking so regularly that we've stopped noticing it.

AIBU to think she's overreacting?

You can be dependent on alcohol without it ever being something that causes issues in the rest of your life. The layman’s term is a functional alcoholic but it’s not always a use description.

Personally I have people in my life that drink this much and I think it’s too much. It’s definitely something they’re dependent on and that makes me uncomfortable because I know how much they are damaging their health (read about the cancer/alcohol links and of course the effects it has on your liver) and I also know how easily it can tip into a more serious alcohol use disorder.

I think you’d do well to match your drinking to the recommended weekly amount (which I think is 14 units).

Studies have shown that longish breaks from alcohol are better for your liver than 1 day off a week, for example. So doing dry January and Octsober would be a good idea. And if you can’t go a month without booze then that might help you see your dependency on it. And the rest of the time, if you’re struggling to stick to 14 units, then perhaps it’ll be clear you might have an issue.

Billy Connolly famously said he had trouble drinking in moderation, and when he went teetotal he said he wanted to give it up while it was still his idea.

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 02/08/2026 20:19

I think drinking can be problematic if chasing a buzz/oblivion as it will require more and more to get there, so people can gradually and invertedly create a situation where eventually their actual body becomes dependent on it and control is lost. The good news is control can be regained.

MyArtfulGreySloth · 02/08/2026 20:19

Amazing how many alcoholics don’t realise they’re alcoholics.

bettyrubble99 · 02/08/2026 20:32

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 23:07

So much judgement Christ! Try being married to the same crazy insane man for 30 yrs

Frigging hell you changed ya mind in about 10 seconds flat.
The last reply you said "I have a great husband who I love so much after 30+ years together" now he is "crazy insane" and "going through a midlife crisis"
Put the wine down and dry up. Good grief.

FastRedExpert · 02/08/2026 20:40

Alcohol is very much parts retirement imo.We have been good all our lives and now we want to relax

TwisterSpice · 02/08/2026 20:42

FastRedExpert · 02/08/2026 20:40

Alcohol is very much parts retirement imo.We have been good all our lives and now we want to relax

Are you the OP?

Gengha · 02/08/2026 20:45

Not coming back OP?

LethargeMarg · 02/08/2026 20:55

i used to drink most nights and would probably have the best part of two bottles of wine over a weekend. At the time i would never have thought i was drinking too much.
since starting HRT i barely drink at all- the odd red wine on a friday and it has made me very aware of how much alcohol dominated my social life and very conscious of how much others drink
if i have two medium red wines now i’ll feel drunk and i think it’s easy to let your tolerance creep up and lose sight of how much you are drinking

redskyAtNigh · 02/08/2026 20:59

wasieverreallyhere · 02/08/2026 18:36

That sounds normal

It's not really normal to feel the need to specify that no one is drinking at 10am prior to going cycling.

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