AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

As the OP says, I am deeply concerned. Concerned about the anger and hate and prejudice that is seeping into every corner.

For what its worth, I think the whole Cuenta thing was some kind of set up. Over 60 people ( yes people) died.

Re the discussion on English, my experience is out of date. Of course arrivals from Eritrea ( for example) will not have English as a second language. Apologies if I was unclear.

Yep… did you see how the recent one could not answer a simple question! Pathetic aren’t they 🤣

I think people are just using it as a catch all to refer to a recently entered asylum seeker for the purpose of this discussion. Its not meant to be an actual 'Mohammed'.

Im not sure Brian is a particularly common name now either

What a thing to distract from the conversation with!!

So do yours! Very woke indeed 🤣

Oh good! That’s one less woke lefty delulu I have to argue with.

You won’t be responding to me again because you’ve been backed into a corner and cannot answer a simple question and just throw the racist card around to shut people down! Well done for making a total fool of yourself! Clap 👏

Your posts speak for themselves.

These pps are just parroting the current ‘shut down discussion’ mantra after they’ve tried the ‘you’re a racist’ line.

It’s so predictable and tedious, but it does the trick by forming an impenetrable (well, from their pov) barrier to any rational and reasonable discussion. Job done!

I don’t think you understand the meaning of scapegoat. If you do you’re using it incorrectly.

I’ve answered the question.

I’m also not on the left of politics although I don’t really see it as an insult like you’re intending it to be.

i won’t be responding to you again, not because you’ve won an argument (because you really haven’t) but because I have things to do and it’s pointless.

And I’m not racist either so go spout your ‘racist’ trope somewhere else!

Again, why do you think it’s acceptable to import more criminals on top of the ones we have and where we don’t know them from Adam or know their background?? Answer the damn question or stop responding to me!!

No I’m not. However there are better ways of keeping women and children safe, more comprehensive and addressing the majority of cases of sexual violence. With your simple mindset perhaps we should lock all men up? Give them curfews, ban football, ban alcohol…. ? These all cause more cases of sexual violence than migration. The issue in women’s/children safety is not migrants it’s men.

You are using British people as scapegoats and calling them all racist for being concerned about immigration. Give your head a wobble!!

And I ask you again…. Seeing as we have our own home grown criminals why do you think it’s acceptable to come on these boards and defend boat migrants who come here and commit crimes. Why do you feel importing more criminals for overseas on top of our own criminals is a good idea? Innocent until proven guilty guilty eh? What’s it take! For another case like Rhiannon Whyte to happen? Nobody should be taking the chance on allowing these people into the country by saying “oh well innocent until proven guilty”. Maybe you should spout your leftist trope to the families of such victims.

Because in British law everyone is innocent until proven guilty so when I see people seeking refuge I don’t automatically think they are guilty of some heinous crime because the reality is the majority are not. In the same way I don’t see all men as perpetrators of sexual violence.

Unlike you, I don't need a scapegoats to make sense of the world.

And you are against keeping British women and children safe… RACIST!

Im against any migration via boat whatever the colour so stop clutching at straws

Because you’re not against immigration really you are only against it from certain cultures and ethnic or religious backgrounds. What you going to do when they start coming for your kids?

And you still haven’t answered the question… why do you feel it’s ok to allow more criminals to come here via boat and house them here on top of the home grown British criminals we already have?

A reminder that Mohammad is the most popular name for boys born in England and Wales...

So Mohammads are as likely to be British citizens who are perfectly entitled to be in the UK and the majority won't be involved in any crimes/act of violence.

That is pure lies.

The numbers aren’t huge though… the reality does not met the narrative of what GB news and other media outlets that depend financially on your outrage will lead you to believe. The numbers are tiny when considered as a population.

The housing crisis in the UK is cause by the wealthy and developers stock piling land and development possibilities because they make more money on the increasing price of the value than they would from developing or selling. The government need to make this unprofitable so developers profit more from developing the opportunities into housing than not.

Yes you can start with the Green Party immigration manifesto;

‘The Green Party wants to see a world without borders, until this happens the Green Party will implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration where people can move if they wish to do so.’

You can the look at Zhara Sultana, Diane Abbot, the activists who stop deportations of rapists, the activists giving tips in Calais, the lawyers stopping any meaningful action.

Why did you think it was happening if nobody wanted it?

I lived in various East London boroughs for almost 30 years before moving to the Kent coast.

I can assure that the majority of these boroughs' residents spoke English, often with better grammar than many 'native' English-speakers by the way due to their original culture valuing education and discipline more.

How am I racist against British people?

if you are going to hold all immigrants (because you to account for the actions of a few, you should also hold all men to account for the actions of a few. And so on and so on.

I suppose the obvious answer is that Mohammed didnt need to be here and therefore that is easy crime prevention to stop him being here.

The outrage is inherent for Brian, he is here , different crime prevention strategies are needed for the Brians, the outrage is overt for Mohammed because he didnt need to be here, so the crime prevention strategy for him is to not enable him to be here.

Parts of east London