AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

Have you (and the other poster) not read the question that the poster is responding to?

Overland to Calais from Ceuta??? 😂

YANBU - I am all for immigration but I had to read the number twice and had to read it said overnight twice and not just in a year!!

Do you realise the geographical location of Ceuta? Some swimming, flying or sailing will be required.

You mean the Arab colonisation of Morocco? It was a long time ago, I'm not sure we can undo it now! They are finally starting to treat the indigenous population with some respect at least, all we can hope is that it continues - and that the Berbers can forgive them for so many centuries of oppression.

Or the Arab colonisation of Spain? I'm fairly sure that's been resolved now and the Spanish harbour no ill will. It's only Isis and the like trying to claim they are the rightful owners of the country, but then they also seem to think we're still fighting the crusades. They don't seem very up to date on geopolitics! I think the rest have the world have made peace with both the Arab invasion, and their expulsion.

Oh come on, this has nothing to do with race! 50,000 men forcing their way into another country is basically an invasion. The question is, why are you trying to justify 50,000 undocumented men forcing their way into Spain

I know right, that was one stinking great reach!

No you’re not being unreasonable, anyone who thinks you are clearly has no idea about the whole topic. Around 50,000 -60,000 undocumented men arrive in one day in the Spanish enclave is clearly co- ordinated and I’m struggling to see it as anything other than an invasion with an attempt to overwhelm the Spanish authorities. This is after the Spanish Supreme Court denied the right of immediate return for the city back to Morocco.

We have neither the physical capacity, or tge resources to deal with this (glad we’re not part of the Schengen Agreement) many of these 50-60,000 will have their eye on Britain. We and Europe need to start a policy of immediate return for all people entering Europe without documentation.

Basically the numbers are equivalent to the entire population of Stafford turning up. People with no job, no means of supporting themselves, people who will be applying for relatives to join them so suddenly that 50,000 will be quarter of a million.

Ooh, this kind of thread is your fav isn't it?

They dont need to swim from Spain to the UK. They can go overland to Calais, get on a dinghy and Bob's yer Uncle!!
Coached lined up waiting, free bed and board, and the freedom to spend their days doing what ever they please!

Ahh, so it's the Jews doing it. Of course. Presumably part of their great replacement plan. Or is this a whole new antisemitic conspiracy theory? It's hard to keep up.

Exactly, something many people miss while spouting out their 'read on social media' nonsense.

We need to cease almost all foreign aid

...which will only oncrease the number of economic migrants
Build up the countries and fewer people will leave

Morocco isn’t a war torn, famine riddled country. It is just poor. I don’t know how anyone can claim these people are refugees.

It's still a deeply and probably deliberately disingenuous thread title. As is the other thread on this topic. It would have been so, so easy to word it accurately, but OP chose not to.

If anything, stopping foreign aid would increase migration.

It’s the exact same principle.

Deflection of what? Once they're in Ceuta they IN the EU. Spain didn't/doesn't have to retain the enclave of Ceuta.

That does not apply to any new arrivals so won’t be of any benefit to those arriving in Ceuta now.

I think that there are wider strategies going on here.
There are the territorial ambitions that the Moroccan government has.

The Moroccan government released many prisoners the day before and drove them to the border.

They want to control the Strait of Gibraltar, as Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz. 30,000 do not arrive in one day by coincidence.

The Moroccan government are backed by Israel as Spain have stopped arms going to Israel through the Strait of Gibraltar, so they have a geopolitical ally.

Open borders has forced a crisis situation, if you are unwilling to defend your border with force, you will eventually be invaded.

Its a bit like the Berlin wall coming down for them. They said in that Time Article that the news spread on TV stations that the border was open and that caused it's own momentum as happened in east Germany.

There's a lot unsaid about left leaning human rights championing Spain now sending reinforcements to Cueta. "Troops". Once it's a couple of thousand people you can't really stop it. What are they going to do? Shoot?

And yet here you are, enjoying both tiresome threads😂 excellent!

They have no onward route into the EU because of Ceuta's special Schengen status.

So pleased to see the Spanish enclaves on the North African coast in the news, maybe they'll shut up about Gibraltar. Ceuta used to be a pleasant trip though.

Read the post.

They have mentioned Ceuta in there.

Also, it is a Spanish territory.