Page 24 | AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 2026-07-31T12:17:14+00:00

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces. I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services. What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control? Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads? Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

Shinyhappyapple · 31/07/2026 22:50

Flyingintotheunknown · 31/07/2026 17:31

Hmmm the same can be said going from Calais to the UK… but they manage that!

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But the point is it would be the same Journey from Ceuta as from Morocco so in terms of these particular people having access to the UK there is no difference today to a week ago.

Shinyhappyapple · 31/07/2026 22:44

TickedOffAndALittleFedUp · 31/07/2026 18:02

Nope they only need to get into Gibraltar and they'll be over here in no time and no one will stop them. Zero issue with controlled immigration for people who have skills we need but 50,000 men running on land at the same time is an invasion by a huge number of individuals who very clearly do not mean to and can't stay in the place where they've forced entry

But they would still have to cross the same sea as they would be crossing from Morocco. You think they are going to swim over to Gibraltar and then hop on a plane ?

Efacsen · 31/07/2026 22:44

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 22:35

The implication is they need to go through due process to deport them.

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But they didn;t need to deport them because they went back to Morocco by choice as there was no food or shelter

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 22:40

TickedOffAndALittleFedUp · 31/07/2026 18:02

Nope they only need to get into Gibraltar and they'll be over here in no time and no one will stop them. Zero issue with controlled immigration for people who have skills we need but 50,000 men running on land at the same time is an invasion by a huge number of individuals who very clearly do not mean to and can't stay in the place where they've forced entry

How are they going to get to gibraltar? They need visas to get to anywhere in europe if they are taking official routes. If not official, then being in ceuta is no advantage.

Dollymylove · 31/07/2026 22:38

Happyjoe · 31/07/2026 15:47

Ooh, this kind of thread is your fav isn't it?

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No it isnt. You might be happy with 100s of young men who have no respect for women roaming freely round your town, but I certainly dont

Shinyhappyapple · 31/07/2026 22:38

Duvetdayneeded · 31/07/2026 13:27

It’s now documented to be about 49,000 and it is absolute fuck up for the UK as they are in the majority going to come to our country because we give them such a free ride. I Stress I don’t mind genuine asylum seekers, but these are economic immigrants and we are fucked. We need to cease almost all foreign aid because our country is going to the toilet.

Why are they more likely to come to the UK from a Spanish part of North Africa than directly from Morocco? Doesn’t make sense. They haven’t crossed to continental Europe.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 22:35

Metalmotha · 31/07/2026 16:19

You understand that Ceuta is part of Spain albeit in the North African coast? You understand the implications of the recent Spanish Supreme Court decision?

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The implication is they need to go through due process to deport them.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 22:32

Dollymylove · 31/07/2026 15:42

They dont need to swim from Spain to the UK. They can go overland to Calais, get on a dinghy and Bob's yer Uncle!!
Coached lined up waiting, free bed and board, and the freedom to spend their days doing what ever they please!

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Except they're not actually in Spain...

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 21:47

Thisthreadhasbeendeleted · 31/07/2026 21:27

It seems to me that what gets people's backs up is when an OP comes along and drops a little stink bomb then doesn't return. The way it's written, the 3-part user name, makes it seem so deliberately goady and not genuine, until fairly recently on here it would have been called out as a 'shoddy lazy journalist' attempting to shit-stir for their publication. That was pre-AI/bots etc.

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I agree. I think some people genuinely do write a post and then get on with their lives and either forget or come back to it later, but other times people never reappear and the drama unfolds in their wake. I guess the right way to deal with that might be to report the thread and ask MNHQ to see if it’s a genuine poster.

Thisthreadhasbeendeleted · 31/07/2026 21:27

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:30

You can absolutely challenge posts that you think are inaccurate by counter arguing with facts. What you can’t do is blanket-accuse lots of people of being bots, trolls and shills and conveniently close down the debate

When did that happen? Well I’ve been here around 15 years and that rule certainly existed then.

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It seems to me that what gets people's backs up is when an OP comes along and drops a little stink bomb then doesn't return. The way it's written, the 3-part user name, makes it seem so deliberately goady and not genuine, until fairly recently on here it would have been called out as a 'shoddy lazy journalist' attempting to shit-stir for their publication. That was pre-AI/bots etc.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 21:16

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LittleGreenShoots · 31/07/2026 21:03

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:33

Well people seemed to be deeply concerned about Gaza and that’s an acceptable concern I assume even though it doesn’t directly affect anyone living outside of Gaza.

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I get that, like Gaza people have died with this border crossing which is always sad. And its alarming seeing Morocco using people as political pawns like this again, especially when the world generally feels more volatile with a lot more warfare in recent years. But it's not the first time it's happened and they are just being sent back across the border. The death toll of people in Gaza is far higher and nastier, when you see them deliberately bombing schools and hospitals. It sounds like the border crossing deaths were accidental at least, which makes me worry less.

pointythings · 31/07/2026 20:39

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:32

Telegraph. It’s the number one article.

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The Telegraph, that bastion of woke lefty reporting.

pointythings · 31/07/2026 20:38

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:07

Not ‘sent’ back. Apparently they voluntarily turned around themselves.

If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

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Or if you believe they're all coming to the UK, you'll believe anything.

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:38

Oh and NYT also interviewed Moroccan nationals who said authorities were directly encouraging border crossings and telling people that the border had been opened.

War by another means I suppose.

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:32

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:25

Where are you reading this?

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Telegraph. It’s the number one article.

bafta16 · 31/07/2026 20:32

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:25

Where are you reading this?

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Maybe it's independent thought?

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:25

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:23

They have returned - there was never any intention to stay. The whole thing was orchestrated by the Moroccan authorities.

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Where are you reading this?

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:23

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:07

Not ‘sent’ back. Apparently they voluntarily turned around themselves.

If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

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They have returned - there was never any intention to stay. The whole thing was orchestrated by the Moroccan authorities.

bafta16 · 31/07/2026 20:13

Duvetdayneeded · 31/07/2026 13:27

It’s now documented to be about 49,000 and it is absolute fuck up for the UK as they are in the majority going to come to our country because we give them such a free ride. I Stress I don’t mind genuine asylum seekers, but these are economic immigrants and we are fucked. We need to cease almost all foreign aid because our country is going to the toilet.

They've gone back now, rest easy.

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 31/07/2026 20:07

Weeellokthen · 31/07/2026 18:48

Fucking Spanish gvnmnt have got the blood of nearly 60 people on their hands.
Disgrace!

How is it the Spanish government's fault?

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:07

pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:56

And over half have already been sent back... Do keep up.

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Not ‘sent’ back. Apparently they voluntarily turned around themselves.

If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

Digerydont · 31/07/2026 19:48

These threads always end up blaming the billionaires. Nothing will be done about the billionaires.

Shakeoffyourchains · 31/07/2026 19:10

Just copy and pasting this from the other identical thread on this subject cause I can't be arsed typing it again...

Interestingly, there has been an effort by various actors to loby the Trump administration to recognise Ceuta (and Melilla) as Moroccan territory, ever since Spain refused to allow the US to use its airspace during the Iran conflict.

Back March, just after spain closed their air space to the US, the AEI published an article that said that "Moroccans should gather, send bulldozers to the border, and then enter Ceuta and Melilla unarmed to raise the flag. Sánchez and the Spanish press bleat, but they have no grounds to act. Nor, for that matter, would NATO, even if Moroccan forces entered the towns to restore order and organise the dispatch of settlers across the Strait of Gibraltar and back to Spain."

While, Congressman Mario Díaz-Balart submitted a report to the House stating that the US should recognise that Ceuta and Melilla are subject to longstanding Moroccan claims, and that the administration should encourage negotiations between Morocco and Spain over their future.

Makes you wonder...

backformoreofthesame · 31/07/2026 19:06

Inequality - across our nation, across the world.

some holding immense wealth and others struggling to survive

it’s so simply predictable. Wtf do people think was going to happen ? As living conditions deteriorate in some places , as the wealth inequality grows.