AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

Ray of sense on here

I’m sure you are correct. But you do realise some of them may try to board ferries, ships etc like they have done for many, many years. Small boat crossing via the cannel isn’t the only method. Before that they were coming on ferries and Lorries.

It’s whack a mole, they keep popping up.

Getting to the UK from France by small boat is significantly easier than getting there from Northern Africa. They are in Northern Africa.

They cannot get to Europe any easier today than they could have gotten to Europe last week before they crossed the border. They are not on the European continent.

Oh don’t be so condescending! I know what the thread is about! I’m saying your response to my post makes absolutely no sense! 🙄
Oh and where did I say they are on mainland Europe??

The thread is about the migrants who have landed at Ceuta from Morocco. They are not on mainland Europe.

Sorry, meant the Spanish Supreme Court!

And your comments are the usual ones too. Every country in the world has it's own home grown wrong 'uns. Not sure why you think importing more is a good idea or even taking the risk but there you go. You agree with taking that risk.
And here's another one of the usual comments...Daily Heil....ooh you're a right card aren't you? Grow the fuck up.

@TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum ,

‘If i were you OP I'd be more concerned about the Tories and Reform's plans to abolish net zero committments.

This 30,000 is a non story compared to the amount of northwards migration that will happen if we keep accellerating climate change.’

Really?!

I think the UK emits 1% of the total global greenhouse gas emissions. And abolishing net zero will maybe affect those emissions by 10% tops (neither party has denied the continued need to trend towards lower emissions, they just dispute the urgency and the sacrifices people would need to make).

So you are asking people to be more concerned with a possible 1/1,000 change in global greenhouse emissions.

Global warming/climate change is a part of the immigration problem the west is seeing, I agree. However, it is a small part of the overall picture to date.

If i were you OP I'd be more concerned about the Tories and Reform's plans to abolish net zero committments.

This 30,000 is a non story compared to the amount of northwards migration that will happen if we keep accellerating climate change.

It was not decolonisation, Ceuta is an old Roman and then Portuguese settlement (Portuguese since 600 something years old, before any African state or proto-state even existed on that territory), that chose to join Spain voluntarily.

Your response to my post makes no sense, sorry! People can’t go saying “oh well it’s not happening over here so it doesn’t matter” and “oh well they’d have to come by boat or plane or swim to get here”, when they are literally coming overseas from France and are getting here by small boat. Not sure what the journey being “the same” has to do with anything! And what makes no difference today from a week ago? You’re not making any sense sorry!

“So what exactly are we doing about the 92% of home grown ones who carry out SA's on women? You do know that SA's on women and children wouldn't stop if we deported every single man of colour from the country?”

Yeah the usual comment, when people don't actually have anything to contribute to a discussion.🙄.
You do realise that yes we do have our own home grown rapists and SA abusers and that it’s better not to keep allowing more abusers and rapists into the country don’t you? It’s simple logic! And where’s this shit come from about deporting EVERY SINGLE man of colour? It’s strange how you people call those on the right racist but you’re the ones who keep mentioning skin colour.

Yeah the usual comment, when people don't actually have anything to contribute to a discussion.🙄.
So what exactly are we doing about the 92% of home grown ones who carry out SA's on women? You do know that SA's on women and children wouldn't stop if we deported every single man of colour from the country? Women and girls are statistically less safe in their OWN HOMES than from any migrant.
Also we used to have access to Eurodac before we left the EU. Access to the biggest database where information on fingerprints, identity etc was all shared with us. Now we have no access since we left EU. We rely on French to stop the boars at a cost of over £600 million.
Of course we need a sensible conversation on asylum claims. But lets stop the hysteria that migrants are the source of evil and the only threat to women and children here . It's at worst racism and at best Xenophobia , purported by the Daily Heil, Reform and Restore

From the New York Times:

Usually, Moroccan officials make it hard for migrants to get close to Ceuta, the Spanish exclave that neighbors Morocco. This week, several migrants said in interviews, police officers waved them through, allowing them to overwhelm Spain’s border fence with relative ease.
That has led to suggestions that Morocco was seeking to pressure Spain for political reasons. Perhaps, analysts said, Morocco wanted to deter Spain from strengthening ties with Algeria, Morocco’s neighbor and rival. Mr. Sánchez visited Algeria in July, weeks after his foreign minister made a similar trip.

“For me, that plays a fairly central role,” said Lorenzo Gabrielli, a senior researcher at Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona who researches migration in Ceuta. “It is impossible for nearly 50,000 people to cross the border between Morocco and Spain in a single day without Morocco having a hand in it,” he added.

He said it recalled an episode in 2021, when more than 10,000 people came over the border in two days, and said it was part of a cycle that Morocco uses to exert pressure on Spain.

Right! And until we appreciate that we also wouldn’t accept an awful life had we not been LUCKY (because that’s all it is!) enough to be born here we’d do the same to help our families

@Pugdogmom we have enough home grown ones we dont need to import more of them

Me neither. However most of the 100's of young men that are wandering about our towns and cities with no respect for women are indigenous white males. The migrant hotel in our town hasn't caused any issues . They get angry , balaclaved males outside shouting at them though. Didn't see any protests about one young woman who was murdered by her partner or the other who had her house petrol bombed by her ex. And yet we want to protect women and girls because brown men or asylum seekers are the whole issue here.

No they arent we've got enough of them already. Elderly man was attacked by one of them at the end of our street today.

Young girls being intimidated by the same lot

Oh dear God...🙄. Straight outta Reform playbook..

No, I'm not worried. They have arrived in a bit of Northern Africa that Spain has held onto after decolonisation. Look up Ceuta on Google maps. As of 6pm this evening, 48,000 of the 60,000 had already gone back to Morocco, probably by walking back across the border.

Well, you'll be delighted to hear that these young men are no more likely to come here than any else - less likely, in fact, given that over half and rising have already been sent back.

Facts matter.

I know. But it’s harder to get hysterical about that.

But these particular people aren’t in your town and are no nearer to being in your town than they were two days ago.

Most of them have gone back to Morocco now, according to the New York Times. It’s all been very odd.