AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

FFS these people are in Africa, and cannot enter Spain without the appropriate paperwork, so whether they are in Morocco or Ceuta is totally irrelevant as far as the UK is concerned....And anyway the vast majority have returned to Morocco already!

Anyone listening to Reform/Restore or their racist leaders on this is a fool...

There are so many reasons why it is reported to have happened, and none of them relate to these migrants making their way to the UK. In fact it’s reported the majority have return voluntarily. It is as much to do with arguments about who owns the land, and/or support of Palestine than anything else.

Oh my

I think the logic is that it’s Europeans fault in some way, standard lefty nonsense

Of course it doesn’t give them the right to go to the UK or any other country. I never said it did.

Our ancestors used to behead and burn their own countrymen at the stake. Should we get our karma for that too?

Everyone conquered and attacked each other in the past. The British empire did a lot of infrastructure development and could be classed as FDI.

Not this old bullshit argument again? Please explain how the people of the UK who are currently alive today are responsible for what our ancestors did many, many years ago before we were even born and have no control over? Do you lefties ever change the record. The “well the English colonised everyone else” argument is getting boring and old now and does not represent the civilised society we live in today.

When did Britain ever colonise Albania?

They might "want" to come over. But that doesn't give them any right to. The same way people here might want to move to the USA, but it doesn't give them a fundamental right to.

Most of the asylum seekers I work with do not speak English, so Im not sure of the relevance of this?

Over half these people have returned to Morocco. Ceuta is not in Schengen apparently.

Im not sure people know that there is a risk of death, its just another crossing as far as they see it. The risk to them is much the same as its been throughout the rest of the journey.

Gooooood thank fuck for that! That’s one less of the batshit logic I have to deal with!

If Britain hadn't colonised there would be no other people speaking English. Its a huge draw for people to come here.

Don't think that makes me a loony leftie, its a fact.

Excuse me… but you’re the one who started arguing with me! You quoted me on a post I made to someone else about the batshittery of excuses the left use, the latest one to add to the script is climate change! And you quoted me to defend it!
I think you’re putting words into your own mouth love! And it’s not the UK’s problem if boat migrants want a “better life”.
Anyway I’m done with your batshit posts that make no sense. We aren’t talking talking about illegal immigration into the UK not legal migration and choosing which country to move to to live there and actually contribute to society.

When you're already in a country that's perfectly safe? I'm not gonna risk death from a place where I'm actually safe

I'm done engaging with you. You seem to be struggling to comprehend what I am writing and are just making things up.

How on earth have I shot myself in the foot? I have never said they should be granted asylum status. I said that they, like the British migrants in Spain, want to go where they have an opportunity for a better life. You seem to be trying to put words in my mouth. Maybe read what I've actually said instead of what you think I said.

People do tend to get fixated on the risk of death in the channel, it is dangerous, but often people have already travelled thousands of miles by then, across equally dangerous waters and terrain. Another short part of a dangerous journey doesnt stand out as anything particularly significant in that context.

If I was "stuck in Italy or France" I wouldn't risk death across the channel to come to the UK

I've been to a quite a few places in France and Italy. I loved it there. Both great countries with great culture.

I knew I did!

The Mongol Empire and Genghis Chan,
The Chinese, Alexander the Great.

Move on.

Empires are how civilisations were built. The Mongol Empire was the most successful of all time, then kaput, just like that it disappeared. Its the way of the world and the way of humans.

Afghans are a proud nation that will talk fervently about how their country has never been conquered by anyone that tried. (this is sort of a myth, but they're very proud of it)

Other nations are proud of the way their resources and land and empire was built up.

“And obviously people applying for asylum are not going to use climate change to support their claim as it’s not an accepted reason to get asylum.”

Oh good! Glad we have established that. So why come on here defending such a pathetic excuse then!