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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

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ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 31/07/2026 13:17

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

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LalaPaloosa2024 · 02/08/2026 07:20

Newbutoldfather · 31/07/2026 14:19

@Thisthreadhasbeendeleted ,

Regardless of the OP, why is it considered to be a bad thing to discuss what is front page news in both the UK and Europe?

It is a (mainly left wing) tactic to attack the discussing of something rather than discussing the thing itself.

This is headline news in both the UK and across Europe. It is both the first and second article in El Pais.

We have to be able to discuss this kind of issue without ad hominem attacks.

Thank you. Such a sensible comment.

CoffeeCantata · 02/08/2026 07:19

Jumpers4goalposts · 02/08/2026 06:43

100% the common factor with all “these” rapes and sexual violence is being a man. Being male is the biggest factor in committing these crimes. I’m fed up of this fact being ignored. The racists who spout this as a reason against immigration always turn a blind eye to the fact a woman is more likely to be raped or attacked by someone she knows, they also ignore the fact that because of this large numbers of incidents of sexual violence are not reported, and the stats will never be an accurate account of what’s going on. However one thing can be guaranteed is that men disproportionately (by an extreme amount) commit sexual violence.

My concern is not about rapes. I say that not because I don’t mind about sexual violence but because that never occurred to me. My concern is purely about numbers. Ive said this 20 times on the previous thread: where and how are huge nos of illegal immigrants going to be housed if (as we’re constantly told) we already have a housing crisis in this country?

Unsurprisingly I didn’t get any answers, but predictably I was accused of saying that asylum seekers had caused the housing crisis. 🙄

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 07:11

Jumpers4goalposts · 02/08/2026 06:43

100% the common factor with all “these” rapes and sexual violence is being a man. Being male is the biggest factor in committing these crimes. I’m fed up of this fact being ignored. The racists who spout this as a reason against immigration always turn a blind eye to the fact a woman is more likely to be raped or attacked by someone she knows, they also ignore the fact that because of this large numbers of incidents of sexual violence are not reported, and the stats will never be an accurate account of what’s going on. However one thing can be guaranteed is that men disproportionately (by an extreme amount) commit sexual violence.

“The racists who spout this as a reason against immigration always turn a blind eye to the fact a woman is more likely to be raped or attacked by someone she knows”

And those who are racist against the British people, like yourself also spout this shit, while turning a blind eye to a lot of recent rapes and stabbings being from those who have come here via boat! You can argue to death the fact that British people commit crimes, but we don’t want anymore criminals being allowed into the country!

Jumpers4goalposts · 02/08/2026 06:52

Nettie1964 · 01/08/2026 22:41

Before David Lammy was removed he was trying to find a legal way to hide the number of crimes committed by illegal immigrants. If there is nothing to fear why hide the numbers of rapes, sexual assults and violent crime?

What a load of tosh.

Jumpers4goalposts · 02/08/2026 06:48

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 21:33

In many parts of London residents can't speak English

What areas? That’s absolute clap trap. There are people who can’t speak English but not many areas.

Jumpers4goalposts · 02/08/2026 06:43

glowfrog · 01/08/2026 21:04

Why is it that there’s all this outrage on the streets about the potential threat of violence from foreign men and no riots over the sickening rate of violence (sexual and otherwise) committed by British men every day towards their partners and children?

100% the common factor with all “these” rapes and sexual violence is being a man. Being male is the biggest factor in committing these crimes. I’m fed up of this fact being ignored. The racists who spout this as a reason against immigration always turn a blind eye to the fact a woman is more likely to be raped or attacked by someone she knows, they also ignore the fact that because of this large numbers of incidents of sexual violence are not reported, and the stats will never be an accurate account of what’s going on. However one thing can be guaranteed is that men disproportionately (by an extreme amount) commit sexual violence.

Fredabasset · 02/08/2026 06:32

swimsong · 02/08/2026 02:10

Where have you got this bonkers notion that anyone is "supporting uncontrolled and undocumented immigration"? Can you name names?

Just for you -

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/15/green-led-council-plans-to-ban-cooperation-with-home-office-on-immigration-raids

Fredabasset · 02/08/2026 06:29

swimsong · 02/08/2026 02:04

Is this after the Spanish give them helicopters and tapas?

😆

CoffeeCantata · 02/08/2026 06:17

swimsong · 02/08/2026 02:10

Where have you got this bonkers notion that anyone is "supporting uncontrolled and undocumented immigration"? Can you name names?

It may not be supported by sane politicians but there’s a lot of noise from irresponsible virtue signallers. In my town there’s loads of graffiti (semi-literate) saying welcome to the boat people and death to Tory scum. OK - this might be just one nutter, but if those who support a complete free-for-all are a tiny minority, they’re extremely vociferous.

CoffeeCantata · 02/08/2026 06:13

Going back in a simple-minded way to the OP…

I think you’d have to be crazy NOT to to be concerned at what happened in Cueta. That event coupled with the ominous drought reminds me that in the 90s we were warned that climate change and water shortages in the south would lead to mass migration into Europe and even cause wars. The Sahara Desert is expanding and many N. African countries are experiencing disastrous droughts. Even without other political factors which drive migration, it’s a frightening prospect.

swimsong · 02/08/2026 02:10

Batrat · 01/08/2026 12:43

As far as I’m concerned, these people are putting our children’s future at risk by supporting uncontrolled and undocumented immigration . I’ve yet to hear a coherent justification for it.

Where have you got this bonkers notion that anyone is "supporting uncontrolled and undocumented immigration"? Can you name names?

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 02:07

swimsong · 02/08/2026 02:04

Is this after the Spanish give them helicopters and tapas?

So where are they getting the life jackets from then? Please enlighten us!

swimsong · 02/08/2026 02:04

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:29

They don't have to, if the French give them dingies and life-jackets

Is this after the Spanish give them helicopters and tapas?

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 01:46

Batrat · 01/08/2026 23:05

They can’t deport them or stop them entering the country, this is the bit you’re missing. The problems that have occurred because of mass immigration are obvious to everyone, people are furious so yes you’re getting certain groups and bad actors exploiting it. It’s subsequent governments who are to blame not anyone else.

Honestly, you can’t educate stupid. People have explained to that poster time and time again and they keep repeating the same lefty nonsense from the same lefty script of “oh well white people commit crimes anyway so immigrants committing them don’t matter”.

They will say absolutely anything to try and justify migrants coming here to commit rapes and so far on this thread, the excuses they have given to allow these migrants to come here are…

”well British people commit crimes anyway”

”where is the outrage when Brian commits an act of violence”

”Well climate change will cause them to come here”

”Tommy and Nigel”

”well the English colonised other countries”

”Migrants commit less crimes than British people”

”You’re very racist”

Honestly, it’s mind boggling. And anyone using those reasons to justify rapes and murders as a result of mass illegal migration are quite frankly, very sick individuals.

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 01:18

Yoheresthestory · 01/08/2026 22:32

What are you on about feelings? Must have sounded smart in your head.

Oh you think you’re dead smart with your dumb “racist” comment. Unfortunately it’s not the ‘gotcha’ you thought it were. Once worked in circa 2010 but it no longer works anymore and we won’t be gaslighted or silenced into submission by the leftist woke ideology and pulling the “racist” card. So nice try but I will carry on fighting for what I believe in. I couldn’t give a shit about your woke leftist ideology. means nothing now because the term racist has been thrown about by people like you.

BitOutOfPractice · 02/08/2026 01:11

The uncomfortable truth is that Spain has a colony in Africa that it’s still holding on to - since the 17th century, Portuguese before that - and this Is the result.

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 01:08

Yoheresthestory · 01/08/2026 22:13

You’re very racist.

You’re very racist against the white British people if you can defend rapists and murderers who kill and rape them! Sick 🤢

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 01:04

glowfrog · 01/08/2026 22:02

You should care more about the ACTUAL REAL ACTS OF VIOLENCE being committed than the POSSIBLE THEORETICAL ONES. Capital letters for emphasis.

If you want to prevent crime based on who is most likely to commit it, I’m pretty sure most men of any ilk should be banished somewhere, since the statistics are pretty damning on who commits violence. Why stop at skin colour or cultural origin when gender alone would take care of the problem, whether homegrown or not?

Where have I mentioned skin colour???

Yet another stupid dumb ass leftist woke post! I stopped reading after I saw the words skin colour. Some people on this thread are absolutely delulu and will make up any old shit to twist things to suit their own narrative! Come back when you have a sensible argument apart from mentioning skin colour from your woke leftist text book!

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/08/2026 01:01

Yoheresthestory · 01/08/2026 22:13

You’re very racist.

Oh fuck if with the racist card!! No longer works anymore and it’s lost its meaning! And for the record my kids are mixed race! What a stupid, meaningless, dumb ass post!

Also, if you think it’s “racist” please point out where I have mentioned skin colour! Get a bloody grip with the dumb ass woke leftist trope. It’s bloody old and boring now! And anyone who defends rapists and murderers like yourself is sick, vile, disgusting and evil! Racist indeed… what a cheap shot 🤣

kay1bee · 01/08/2026 23:14

Duvetdayneeded · 31/07/2026 13:27

It’s now documented to be about 49,000 and it is absolute fuck up for the UK as they are in the majority going to come to our country because we give them such a free ride. I Stress I don’t mind genuine asylum seekers, but these are economic immigrants and we are fucked. We need to cease almost all foreign aid because our country is going to the toilet.

Wow! Not even bothering to disguise your xenophobia even a little bit...

Batrat · 01/08/2026 23:05

glowfrog · 01/08/2026 22:59

The you was not referring you Batrat, I was talking in general terms.

My point, for the last time:

People are choosing to vocally focus on “migrants committing acts of violence or being more likely to commit acts of violence” rather than homegrown domestic abusers and rapists because it’s just… easier. It’s a seemingly neat demographic that you can easily pont to and in theory deal with, by barring entry or deporting them.

Do they care about homegrown domestic abusers and rapists? Yeah, sure, they probably do, but those are much harder to deal with, aren’t they? Their culture is our culture, after all. And they can’t pick the bad ones out so easily because they look like their dad or brother.

Not to mention that when people are busy worrying about how immigrants are supposed to be ruining the country, they’re not considering the possibility that it’s in fact vast financial interests that are doing the ruining. It’s a tale as old as time.

They can’t deport them or stop them entering the country, this is the bit you’re missing. The problems that have occurred because of mass immigration are obvious to everyone, people are furious so yes you’re getting certain groups and bad actors exploiting it. It’s subsequent governments who are to blame not anyone else.

Somerford · 01/08/2026 23:02

glowfrog · 01/08/2026 22:41

If you are concerned about men committing acts of violence- especially against women - maybe you could show more just as much outrage about Brian doing it as you do about Mohammed. You would think it would be easier to do something about the men who are born here and grow up here, wouldn’t you? Surely we should have more control over what kind of person they turn out to be.

Maybe that’s what it’s all about. You’ve given up trying to do something about the homegrown abusers and rapists but throwing bricks at the foreign ones is pretty easy and does give you that nice feeling of things being under control.

Everybody is outraged when Brian commits an act of sexual violence. We want Brian charged and sentenced appropriately, and if he's ever released from prison the police will disclose his past to anybody with a legitimate interest in knowing what he's done. In all likelihood there are media reports online forever and Brian will find it difficult to lead a normal life again. Many people would actually like to see Brian executed.

Brian doesn't have the Labour Party covering up and downplaying his crimes, but Mohammed does. Brian doesn't have the apparatus of the state allowing more Brians to come here and systematically rape thousands of vulnerable girls, Mohammed does. Brian is almost certainly ostracised by his family when it becomes clear that he's a prolific child rapist, Mohammed isn't. Mohammed never needed to be here in the first place and all of his crimes were completely and utterly avoidable, we don't need to import any more Mohammeds and we don't need to go out of our way to facilitate more sexual voilence or create any more victims.

HRTQueen · 01/08/2026 23:02

Why is it so difficult to understand for some that when people move from another country they don’t loose the culture and attitudes that they have been accustomed too as normal

many countries, particularly Muslim countries that have stepped back from being progressive have very ridged societies. They are not teaching about other cultures and the positives of free thinking and individuality, religion isn’t taught as all religions are equal and to respect all religions and questioning their culture isn’t openly taught, spoken about or explored in the media

why would their attitudes, that are very often very negative towards western societies and in particular western women, change just because they are now in a western country

honestly when you live in a non progressive Muslim country you are confronted by these attitudes that are just the norm

glowfrog · 01/08/2026 22:59

Batrat · 01/08/2026 22:50

lol what are you taking about ? I’m not throwing bricks at anyone. I don’t want to allow people who are likely to be a threat into the country, I don’t want to import cultures that are more likely to be a threat. I don’t know why anyone would want to just because there can also be homegrown issues. Odd mindset.

Edited

The you was not referring you Batrat, I was talking in general terms.

My point, for the last time:

People are choosing to vocally focus on “migrants committing acts of violence or being more likely to commit acts of violence” rather than homegrown domestic abusers and rapists because it’s just… easier. It’s a seemingly neat demographic that you can easily pont to and in theory deal with, by barring entry or deporting them.

Do they care about homegrown domestic abusers and rapists? Yeah, sure, they probably do, but those are much harder to deal with, aren’t they? Their culture is our culture, after all. And they can’t pick the bad ones out so easily because they look like their dad or brother.

Not to mention that when people are busy worrying about how immigrants are supposed to be ruining the country, they’re not considering the possibility that it’s in fact vast financial interests that are doing the ruining. It’s a tale as old as time.

Batrat · 01/08/2026 22:50

glowfrog · 01/08/2026 22:41

If you are concerned about men committing acts of violence- especially against women - maybe you could show more just as much outrage about Brian doing it as you do about Mohammed. You would think it would be easier to do something about the men who are born here and grow up here, wouldn’t you? Surely we should have more control over what kind of person they turn out to be.

Maybe that’s what it’s all about. You’ve given up trying to do something about the homegrown abusers and rapists but throwing bricks at the foreign ones is pretty easy and does give you that nice feeling of things being under control.

lol what are you taking about ? I’m not throwing bricks at anyone. I don’t want to allow people who are likely to be a threat into the country, I don’t want to import cultures that are more likely to be a threat. I don’t know why anyone would want to just because there can also be homegrown issues. Odd mindset.

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