Non-binary colleague using disabled toilet

In practice, I am not saying it’s complex, I don’t know why you’re suggesting that’s what I mean.

But in this case, what is A and B? If A and B are the male and female sexes, then there’s no such thing as non-binary, because you can’t “identify” with or not with a sex. You just are one of those two.

And if A and B in your definition - a decidedly weak one for a status you say has been around for millennia - are masculine and feminine, then you have to admit non-binary is based on regressive sex stereotypes.

Ergo, whichever you look at it, non-binary is nonsense.

@Bromptotoo Strangely enough, I was not referring to your father's urological complaint.

happydappy2 · Today 12:11
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Identifying as non binary does not make a person disabled, therefore they should not use disabled toilets. It's really that simple!

OPs colleague may have a disability or medical issue requiring more space and privacy that they do not wish to disclose.

@verysmellyjelly accessible now, but even if they were purely for people with disabilities, can you honestly say you've never used one? i have, pretty much everyone i know has. a toilet is a toilet and if there aren't enough to "go around" then maybe we should all start protesting for more public toilets - ideally gender neutral ones!

Well I don’t see that there’s any harm in it. Presumably they dont spend all day in there?

As above. If they can use the disabled toilet because they are not comfortable in the other ones, then surely anyone else can too.
They are usually cleaner and roomier.

So have you ever seen another person standing outside and waiting to use the toilet whilst your colleague is using it? If you don’t make that the main point of your post that you have seen that distress for someone else, I presume you haven’t witnessed anyone else waiting …so….it sound like you are just being transphobic.

You're clearly a busybody with nothing else to do

I'm a wheelchair user with a severe bowel condition so I use them very regularly.

I’d suggest that the colleague does not identify as either, which I don’t think (ime as someone who teaches multiple non-binary students) is necessarily a mh issue. At work, we have ’Inclusive’ toilets which are meant to be for the disabled or non-binary or transgender students/teachers. They have rails for the wheelchair bound children. Maybe relieve the non-issue by re-labelling the loo in question as ‘Inclusive’?

You’d still have to queue if one person was in it before you. This is no different.

They are roomier because we need that space for our wheelchairs, assistants, and changing. It's not for the temporary convenience of the perfectly well and abled.

Non issue an absolutely fair play to them for being considerate and taking other people into consideration

@Cherrysoup Legally the toilets are disabled toilets, for us.

But if the physical effect of the anxiety on the OP's non binary colleague is the same what's the difference?

They are attention seeking twats. You complaining is just what they want. Non binary is nonsense in any case.

So disabled people are just... not people, to you? We don't need any consideration? The impact on us is nothing?

Women’s spaces, and disabled toiltets, are not yours to give away.

@verysmellyjelly then im sure you're more than likely to agree that there should be more public toilets - for everyone

So what would you do if another disabled person was in the toilet and you had to wait?

As I’ve said, I’m not taking a stance nor claiming to have all the answers.

So why did you express with such confidence that non-binary has been around for millennia?

It’s typical of those who support or have a superficial understanding of gender ideology, when the questions come around definitions, stereotypes, and logic, there’s a lot of vague hand waving, as if such concepts aren’t important.

Well, they are, because we are being asked to structure our entire society around such vague concepts and ill-defined definitions of such things like “gender identity” and “non-binary”, to the detriment of others - women, girls, disabled people.

So back up your claims and definitions, and until then when it comes to catering to your ideology, people will give a firm no.

It has nothing to do with you. And doesn't affect you. YABU. It's a sensible compromise

You know, if trans women (who I assume is who you are talking about) wanted to use third spaces I'd be all in favour of that.
I am just not in favour of people who are not disabled using the only disabled toilet.
I'm interested if you have any stats on harassment in women's toilets, and why you think the nonbinary person in the OP would be harassed in a single cubicle.

My DH is physically disabled and he would be raising his eyebrows at this colleague.

Being non binary is not a disability.

No, legally they are accessible so that disabled people can go to the toilet. There is nothing in law that says other people cant use them too.