School made malicious & false report to police

Because it's very easy to pull the wool over someone's eye if they just visit for a short period of time and don't back up what they see. It's also easy to forge messages etc. to make it look like they were received and sent at different times.

Look at some of the most high-profile child abuse cases over recent years and you'll see most of their homes had been visited by someone in authority but who was fobbed off. I'm not saying this is what happens in the OPs case, but I am saying that in general if police or social workers are investigating a concern, they shouldn't just accept what the carers say on an initial visit as gospel without digging deeper.

OK I see your point but it's likely that since the police officer made a clear report that the police can investigate that phone and the school, it's the law a school is not above the law. Particularly since they are not following protocol re assisting a child with disabilities. I mean that they are critisizing a parent regarding attendance but not advocating for that child's wellbeing in school themselves. So I think they do have a case to answer. It's already been said, no one wants to send a child into a building where teachers are setting they're hands on them and walking off with them. That's a terrible thing to do to any child, but a deaf child? Much worse. That's why I'm saying be careful with home schooling untill you have specific help for her deafness. Whole different ball game to home school a deaf child. There are lots of deaf charities out there plus the bda who may be able to help the family directly and specifically. There is not enough information really to advise any further. I hope op has found some solace, some advice and a few practical steps to take that will help. Wishing you the very best.

You really would hope the police are the hardest people to “pull wool over the eyes” of

I’m sorry you’re going through this. I don’t think the police should have said all the below to you without an investigation. I’m struggling to believe they said all that.

The police officer said in her professional opinion, someone at the school has a personal vendetta against us and has maliciously reported us to the police.
The police officer said she will record this as being a malicious and fraudulent complaint.
She said that whoever reported us from the school was very aware and it was definitely orchestrated as she said they deliberately used all the “trigger words” that would mean such a response from the police.

Don't think we should speculate about what the police officer said. She has every right to offer a professional opinion. No doubt she made a full report which can be called upon later. Very specific words and terms have to be used for an officer to share an opinion and they have a right to an opinion. The family needed support at that time which they got. If she hadn't supported them no doubt someone would've complained about that.

I ageee that whatever is going on should be sorted out, but if it was me I would remove my child and then sort it out.
I hope the op has written records of dates&times of when she spoke to the school, what happened etc. She also has phone records of contacting the school and vice versa and now police involvement too. It's insane that she has to deal with this nonsense though!

Even without all the police stuff, if the teacher grabbed your daughter and the head did nothing, that's a terrible environment for your DD. When are you going to remove her?

First of all you need to change schools.

If your DD is deaf and struggling with school attendance then I would definitely apply for a place at a SN school where the classes are much smaller and they’re more equipped to deal with school refusers.

I would also show the headteacher the police report and tell her that you will not be bringing your child back into that school.

Dont agree that homeschooling is the answer. Her socialisation with others is important. You obviously don't know what home education is.

The unswerving faith so many mumsnetters have in institutions, schools, the legal system, police etc. have in spite of copious evidence of failure and corruption occurring in these institutions (anyone, even school staff, can be fallible) is touching.

The police would not have said this to you. They might have said they would investigate, but they would not have told you all the information you claim they did. It looks like there's a massive backstory here.

The child doesn’t have an EHCP. How is she going to get a space in a special school?!

(She’s not deaf, she has some hearing loss. Only very recently diagnosed.)

So many misconceptions about hearing loss on this thread

1. The vast majority of children with a HL do not need to sign.

1. The vast majority of children with a HL do not qualify for an EHCP.

1. The vast majority of children with a HL attend their mainstream school.

1. Makaton is not widely used in mainstream schools and it is unlikely to be any use to a child whose main need is a HL.

OP - your audiology team should have referred you to your local Teachers of the Deaf.

You may find National Deaf Children's Society (ndcs.org.uk) helpful.

Schools are often really poor at understanding how HL affects children and you may well need a ToD and the NDCS on your side.

All safe guarding training I have received states that you quote word for word what a child has told you in regards to safeguarding. That means if a trigger word has activated the police, that trigger word has most likely been said by your child. It could of been innocent in the right context but she's small.
There's very few safeguarding issues that go directly to the police, normally there's a multiple step process between the issue arising and SS. The complaint gets handled by atleast 6 people for multiple agencies before it reaches ss.
That said I think if lack of attendance and cooperation from the parent is encountered it's a red flag for the appropriate agencies.
I personally would aim to get your child's formal diagnosis and push for additional help for your child in an educational setting. Try and work with the school for now even if you plan on moving your child schools.
I would communicate via email so there's a paper trail and save all evidence and documentation for your own back up.

I agree with you that home schooling is not the answer. As for unswerving faith in institutions. I for one don't struggle with that. The issue here is exactly about the opposite of that. I've been horrified at the problems in the met but I don't believe for a moment that that's all policemen and women. This story is pretty damming of one school but I know first hand that not all schools are like that. Specialist schools have their place but there are not enough of them. Many parents and students want to be in a main stream school. Want to be included, want to be visible and not cloistered away. The technologies available to deaf people now give them that choice. Inclusive societies don't hide away their disabled or deaf citizens. Or are we only an ablest world? If this scenario is real then first and foremost it must be recognised that this little girl is in the midst of a really frightening nightmare. All the things that are enjoyed by her peers are currently unavailable to her. The school seem mystifyingly without any expertise and seem to care even less. How cruel. Some children need the quieter specialist environment but it is not a panacea for all. I hope she gets the help she needs and same for her family.

I Do know what home schooling is thanks...

Mamabearsmile people were suggesting op's daughter be home educated, not home schooled while she finds another more suitable school. There is no reason to believe she won't mix with other children if she is home educated. Whatever, this school is making op's daughter very unhappy and is unwilling to cater to her needs, a different school is needed asap.

OP, I believe you completely. I never understand how or why people think they're taking the high ground by claiming institutions couldn't possibly have done xyz.

The truth is that schools, medical professionals, social workers and police routinely lie with malicious intent. They wield their power to protect themselves, exact revenge but most commonly out of petty pride. They can't stand facing their mistakes or being outsmarted by members of the public / service users.

I would absolutely go to the police with a complaint for harassment. All your claims re: attendance harassment are easily verifiable.

I am sure homeschooling works for some but in this situation I don’t see any benefit.

And the government want to make homeschooling illegal for any families who’ve had SS involvement which I fully support.

It is much better to find a school that DD gets on with, as this is not the norm and it’s no wonder why she’s a school refuser.

If she went to a proper school then she would likely absolutely love it.

If she went to a proper school then she would likely absolutely love it

What's a proper school and why would she absolutely love it?

I believe it. Our ex head would regularly shout at parents in his office. It took a long time.for him to be asked to leave his position. I'm still not sure how he was there for so long.

We also have a TA who thinks she rules the roost.

She shouted at my 5 year old for not having her spelling book 2 weeks in a row telling her she needed to be more responsible. Even though I already explained to the actual teacher we where moving and I must have packed it in a box. Teacher was fine about this.

Same TA told me I must come into school and give the 1st round of antibiotics when she said so. Even though the GP said to wait until 6 or 7pm so that the second dose could be given at 6 or 7 am instead of dragging her out of bed at 3am!

She also came and told me off for taking a call in the playground after school when another mum was running late and asked me to let the teacher know as the office wasn't answering. She the told me my daughter hit her head but they didn't call me as it was late in the afternoon. Even though it's policy to call a parent straight away regardless of time.

I will snap at her one day I think!

I was relaying this to my husband when my 2md eldest rolled his eyes and said she's always trying to have someone told off.

I see the need for safeguarding but this was very over the top!

Firstly, I'd find a more nurturing school for your child.

Secondly, I'd write a letter to the school governors stating that you are hugely disappointed in the schools attitude towards helping a child with a disability, then go on to say what happened and how you did not appreciate the lies that were told to the police when you had clearly contacted the school to let them know where your child was, and clearly their own safeguarding policy has failed. I'd ask them to investigate the matter, and say if you don't get a satisfactory answer, you will contact Ofsted to investigate.

Don't go spouting off rubbish about taking legal action. That's not going to help you or your child.

A proper school is one that understands that some children have disabilities or issues that make learning more difficult than others.

They don’t punish the mother, they work with her to find a solution.

And they definitely wouldn’t ring 999 unless they had serious concerns that an emergency was happening at that very moment.

And she would likely absolutely love it because the majority of 5 years olds love school.
We are social animals and that age need to play with their friends and have fun whilst socialising.

I would contact your Education Welfare Officer, they are really helpful and will support you. It sounds like your relationship with the school is irretrieveable at this point so I would definitely look at other schools. Are there any primaries near you that have a good reputation for supporting children with additional needs?

I would also report the school to the local authority and raise an official complaint. Can you get a written report from the Police Officers involved?