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1993baby · 13/12/2024 12:34

I have previously posted on here about my DD’s school constantly harassing us about attendance..
For example, my DD was in hospital, they called me every single morning asking where she was?and when she would be back in school. She had chickenpox, they wanted me to send her into school despite the governments rules about keeping her off. The list goes on...

My DD, age 5, was recently diagnosed with hearing loss and has naturally, really been struggling in school. She is waiting for hearing aids to be fitted.

She obviously struggles to hear the teacher in class. Other background noises, such as loud noises from the other children, upset her.
She can’t cope with a full day at school it is completely exhausting and draining her that whenever I pick her up, she has huge meltdowns, screaming crying and really upset 😔

In the mornings she is that anxious and worried about going to school that she is physically sick and vomits.

One morning, she didn’t want to go to school and was clinging onto my leg, the teacher came and physically dragged her off me, picked her up and took her into the classroom. She was screaming “mummy mummy” as she was dragging her away. It was awful.

I have spoken to the headteacher and the SENCO. They have not been supportive either.

They sent me a message saying that a plan needs to be put in place in order for her to return to school..Then the next day sent me a message asking where she was and why she was not at school

  • As if they were completely oblivious to everything, despite having multiple conversations with the SENCO, headteacher, attendance officer.
They knew why she wasn’t at school but pretended not to? It’s crazy

Yesterday, 2 police officers came to our house and said the school had called 999 as an emergency and said that they have had no contact with us and that they are extremely worried for the safety of my child.

However, I had messaged the school in the morning giving an update.

I immediately showed the messages to the police officer, who checked the time of the report and told me that they had definitely reported us AFTER I sent that update.

They called 999 at half past 3, after school had finished. I messaged in the morning, they even replied to me and said “thank you for the information”

So the school has been caught out with their lies.

The police officer said in her professional opinion, someone at the school has a personal vendetta against us and has maliciously reported us to the police.

The police officer said she will record this as being a malicious and fraudulent complaint.

She said that whoever reported us from the school was very aware and it was definitely orchestrated as she said they deliberately used all the “trigger words” that would mean such a response from the police.
So they knew what they were doing, it wasn’t a normal or genuine concern.

The police offers were actually shocked by the behaviour of the school. I explained everything the school has done and they said it is definitely harassment.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to take any legal action against the school for this harassment/false report to police etc ?

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1993baby · 13/12/2024 13:12

@hydriotaphia
unexplained physical symptoms? Lol
she has a disability.. she’s deaf! she has been officially diagnosed by a consultant at the hospital. How is that unexplained physical symptoms?

not good in communicating?
I messaged them that morning, in detail, providing an update.

They must have been really worried to call 999? That’s the whole point. They weren’t.
2 police officers have confirmed the school have LIED to get the police to come out. Actually LIED ago the police with false information. The police have recorded it as malicious.

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Bobbybobbins · 13/12/2024 13:13

Irrespective of what has happened, I would look at moving schools asap and be clear about your DD's needs from the start now she has a diagnosis. She has a lot of years ahead in primary school.

verysmellyjelly · 13/12/2024 13:14

I remember your previous thread OP, and how appallingly they have behaved with respect to your daughter. I'm sorry you are getting the usual response on here of "you must be in the wrong somehow". As discussed before, that isn't always the case and sometimes people in authority do take against a person. It can and does happen. Ignore the unhelpful replies. I think you should definitely be looking at moving your DD as it seems there is no hope of improving relations with school.

1993baby · 13/12/2024 13:14

@Killingoffmyflowersonebyone

do you work for the school? :)

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SereneFish · 13/12/2024 13:17

I don't think we're getting the whole story here.

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 13/12/2024 13:20

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1993baby · 13/12/2024 13:21

@verysmellyjelly

thank you for your kind reply.

exactly!

Like you said, authority, schools can and do take against people.. which is what has happened to us.

There’s absolutely nothing more to this than what I have written, I don’t know why some people on here want to believe otherwise...

It’s just been an escalation of the harassment from my previous post..

The police officer got the info up on and compared times so she saw straight away that the school had lied. It was obvious to them that it was malicious.

I don’t see how I could possibly ever send her back after they have done this now so that’s probably the only option.

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ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/12/2024 13:21

HPandthelastwish · 13/12/2024 12:44

Your relationship with school has severely broken down, your first move should be to look at other local schools as this is really very early to be having issues with them and probably won't improve.

Make the new school aware of your DDs issues from the outset so you can get their support and buy in.

Then maybe do a FOI on communication related to your DD. Go through the governors for any complaints but I'd just move school.

FOI doesn’t cover this. They also wouldn’t release anything that could be an active safeguarding concern.

they don’t see much of your daughter. They have concerns. Surely better ti be over cautious than less?

BlueEyes90 · 13/12/2024 13:22

Pull her out immediately, tell them of your intention to do so. Say you’ll be home schooling & look for a new school.

pikkumyy77 · 13/12/2024 13:22

BobbyBiscuits · 13/12/2024 13:03

I can't believe the police officer would say in her professional opinion someone has a vendetta. How the fuck would she know? And saying they used 'trigger words'. Well, it's a school isn't it? Either she's very unprofessional or she didn't say any of those things.

With all you know about how crashingly, criminally, unprofessional the police are you find that hard to believe? I don’t. The police are quite likely to make a decision right there about the validity of the compkaint dince they were called out to rescue a child in need/unaccounted for. Since the child was not in need and not unaccounted for what are they to do? Issue s threatening caution or record the report as unfounded?

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2024 13:24

Schools would not do this without reason.

The fact another poster has said you, by your own admission, don't follow school absence procedure screams BACKSTORY.

You are telling the whole story.

As for the police saying someone has a vendetta - v unprofessional when they don't have the response from the school only your word.

I would guess the relationship with the school isnt salvageable. But I also suspect you'd be a family that would have a problem with most schools because you don't follow procedure.

It doesn't end well for the kids. At best they end up 'homeschooled' with no actual education.

Scattery · 13/12/2024 13:25

I agree with the posters telling you to ignore the unhelpful replies. Some schools really are utterly dire and will massively overstep.

If I were you, I would do a SAR. Get all the records the school has on your child. Look at applying for an ECHP yourself, and scout out the other local schools.

Do you have it in writing that they told you she cannot attend until a plan is put into place? That could be illegal exclusion.

Make sure you keep everything in writing from now on, no verbal agreements.

And ignore the mouthbreathers on this thread who can't seem to comprehend just how bad UK state schools are in when it comes to SEN.

1993baby · 13/12/2024 13:26

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FictionalCharacter · 13/12/2024 13:26

The lack of support for her hearing loss is appalling but unsurprising.

When my child’s hearing loss was diagnosed, she was visited (annually I think) by a specialist whose job title I can’t remember. They set out all the adjustments and assistance she needed in school. It took ages to get to that point. Even then, the school ignored most of it. It was a massive struggle to get them to provide any of the adjustments she was entitled to - even simple things like seating her near the front instead of sticking to their rigidly defined groups and seating plans. They seemed to think it was all rather unnecessary and an inconvenience to them. The SENCO was completely useless. The teachers were utterly uncaring.

Please fight for her. Hearing impairment makes life so much harder and if her hearing is bad enough to need hearing aids, she’ll be really struggling right now. If she doesn’t get the support she needs she will really suffer, and she won’t get the support unless you really fight for her, and keep fighting.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/12/2024 13:27

OP, your daughter sounds a lot like my nearly-5 year old nephew, who is non-verbal autistic. He’s the school’s youngest refuser, despite having been okay at nursery last year.

The difference is, I think, that my sister (supported by my mum, who is a special needs expert) works with the school, not against them.

50howdidthathappen · 13/12/2024 13:28

I worked in an education department. I’m sorry this is happening to you. I would raise a formal complaint in writing. They have to respond. I would also contact the Local Authority education department to report your concerns. I have a child who has a medical condition and have been astonished at the lack of empathy re understanding how this impacts on them. Good luck.

GermanBite · 13/12/2024 13:30

I find it really hard to believe that the police would record a safeguarding call from a 4 year old's school as malicious.

hydriotaphia · 13/12/2024 13:35

The OP is clearly having a challenging time. However, those encouraging her to believe that the school is being 'malicious' and pursuing a 'vendetta' when they try to get her child to attend are NOT helping her or her child. I am fully prepared to accept that the school may not have joined up systems - it obviously IS pretty bad if someone called 999 solely on the basis they had not heard from the family, when in fact someone else in the school HAD heard from them. But being crap does not equal being malicious. And yes, if a child is kept off for a hospital stay, kept off for chicken pox, then kept off for meltdowns and is regularly crying in school, this will raise red flags - which is not to say the family are acting wrong, but just to say that multiple absences quite rights warrant some investigation, for reasons everyone should understand following the recent terrible case in the news.

Calmhappyandhealthy · 13/12/2024 13:37

I'd be horrified if you are continuing to send your child to this school.

I'd also be horrified if you haven't lodged a formal written complaint with the LA

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DowntonNabby · 13/12/2024 13:38

MiraculousLadybug · 13/12/2024 13:04

Schools can't win. When you don't send your child to school and they don't routinely know why (as you said in your last thread you don't follow the absence policy and you don't ring them every morning of the absence) and they go out of their way to ask, and one time they follow it up with appropriate services when they don't know where your children are on a regular basis, people say it's harassment.

When they don't follow it up properly, and something awful happens like Sara Sharif, everyone says it's the school's fault. I think the school's only issue is they followed it up the one time you actually told them where your child was and that message never reached the DSL from admin.

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This ^. Schools are damned if they do, damned if they don't. If you are wilfully not following the school's policy on absence reporting despite repeated meetings, then you are red-flagging yourself.

I don't believe the school would've dialled 999 either. Schools work closely with local police for safeguarding issues and each school has an assigned schools officer. Any report would've been done through that channel, not by someone just ringing the emergency operator.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 13/12/2024 13:38

Ask the GP/audiology clinic for a referral to Deaf CAMHS. It doesn't matter that she has some hearing. They can work with you and the school to adequately support her.

I would also move schools. No wonder she is scared to go into school.

Tare · 13/12/2024 13:39

Why wasn't your child at school on this occasion? Sorry if I've missed a detail - you've said she has hearing loss and that she has struggled to leave you in the mornings. You've then described a situation where she was taken from you and into school by the teacher. So she was in school? But then the school contacted you to discuss a plan for her return?

I would definitely make a data subject access request in your shoes.

Travelodge · 13/12/2024 13:46

BobbyBiscuits · 13/12/2024 13:03

I can't believe the police officer would say in her professional opinion someone has a vendetta. How the fuck would she know? And saying they used 'trigger words'. Well, it's a school isn't it? Either she's very unprofessional or she didn't say any of those things.

Yes. Sounds highly unlikely.

housethatbuiltme · 13/12/2024 13:47

The police officer said in her professional opinion, someone at the school has a personal vendetta against us and has maliciously reported us to the police.

The police officer said she will record this as being a malicious and fraudulent complaint.

She said that whoever reported us from the school was very aware and it was definitely orchestrated as she said they deliberately used all the “trigger words” that would mean such a response from the police.

So they knew what they were doing, it wasn’t a normal or genuine concern.
The police offers were actually shocked by the behaviour of the school. I explained everything the school has done and they said it is definitely harassment.

Yeah police absoloutly do not say and do that on a call. They may assure you that its a mistake and they will file it as wrong report but they will not say the school has a 'vendetta' against you, or are 'malicious' or that they are 'shocked' and its 'definitely harassment'. Its not within the rights to come to that conclusion or within their job allowance to say that to you.

That wording you claim the police 'said' is very sensitive to the situation and personal. Police would not be taking this personally or using triggering language and drawing a victimized conclusions off one report. YOU might think that and the police will not argue or disagree with your views/opinions (also not in what they are allowed to do) but you will look mad if you go around claiming the police told you 'professionally' that you are a victim of a malicious vendetta and they are 'shocked'.

If you don't like the school then move schools, it won't do you DD any good to be in the middle of this.

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