Secondary school does not allow D.Martens

And you reckon teachers saying children should follow uniform rules are ‘embarrassing our profession’?
Wild.

It’s DM boots that are banned as far as we can tell, not the brand. The OP refuses to clarify, so I think we can assume that’s the case. The uniform says shoes. DMs make shoes which have all the advantages you describe. I wear them all the time.

Sooo…how do you know the kickers in question are not from the shoe range?

Because the OP specified they're the boot ones.

@cardibach

It doesn't really matter if the school rule is to wear red shoes with pink spots trimmed with ostrich feathers.
That would be the school rule. If you want to send your child there then comply.
If you don't, then find a school that will take DMs.
If you can't find one, keep her at home-wearing whatever she likes-and take some qualifications so that you can educate her up to A level yourself.

You and your daughter-schooled by your attitude-have some brass neck.

I long for the day when a Head Teacher can say-Fit in or Fuck Off.

There are always options.

No wonder the school is in difficulties when parents don’t make their entitled kids follow the rules.

My son had the widest feet. Walked on the outside of his shoes and would destroy them. DM shoes were the answer for him. Hard-wearing and I daresay good for protection

the school doesnt sound very nice but the vast majority of secondary school kids have to deal with (unreasonable IMO) school uniform rules. Not a hill to die on.

Why not just buy your DD the required shoes and let her get on with her schooling.

The school sounds like it has enough problems to be getting on with, without having do deal with your time-wasting awkwardness.

And now we know which school it is, I expect that will piss the teachers off even more!

Nope school uniform states school shoes and not DMs. You have bigger problems than her shoes - this is not the issue to make a fuss about.

@corporategreen

Threatening violence even in this glib way is never appropriate.

The no boots rule is common, and kickers come as shoes as well as low rise boots

I'm reporting this thread to MNHQ. It's completely unacceptable to post screenshots of private communications sent in good faith. Buy your child some shoes, OP.

It's clear that all boots are banned so that either applies to kickers, or we can assume that the rule is obsolete.

@corporategreen The policy says shoes.

She is wearing boots.

No wonder there is a problem. YABU for allowing her to wear boots when it is a direct contradiction of the policy.

Just because others may not be following the policy, doesn't mean you also need to break it

however since older students wear it too I guess the kickers are an examption

Or they may be being ignored at the moment or not picked up on - we get that everyone gets lax about some rule then a crack down occurs.

DD2 shoes I don't think are compliant -well ones she wears on PE days - I've said my piece she says it easier and everyone else does it and they've been fine last year and this with no singling out or anyone in school saying a thing to her or us. If it suddenly becomes an issue she has compliment shoes and she'll be expected by us to wear them. I'd prefer her to just comply but at 15 in Y11 I'm picking my battles with her - in Y7 at 11 she wouldn't have had the option.

@corporategreen can you post pictures of the Doc Martins and also of the equivalent Kickers?

I can’t imagine for one second DM boots are an acceptable part of a school uniform. My DD wore these DM shoes - no branding, no stitching, and very plain. They were comfortable, sensible, complied with the regs, and lasted her until she grew out of them (when she got another pair).

https://www.drmartens.com/uk/en_gb/youth-1461-mono-softy-t-leather-shoes-black/p/26174001

YOU have no concerns about your child's behaviour.

The school, on the other hand, is dealing with a child who is refusing to follow the rules and has stated an intention to kick other children, and a mother who is encouraging this behaviour.

Stop worrying about what other kids and parents are doing, you need to focus on your own child and your own attitude.

She didn’t. She just said she didn’t see why they were acceptable when DM boots aren’t. I suspect they are the little ones which come just to the ankle whoch I’ve screenshotted up thread.

Yes. I’ve screen shotted the most likely ‘boots’. They are totally different from DM boots.

The kickers kids wear to school are usually the hi tops and I posted the description earlier. They are boots. Sold as boots by the company. Ankle boots to be precise

Also @corporategreen , please understand that lots of schools don't allow Doc Marten boots.

Rules are rules; get your child to follow them. Unless you want her to be excluded from school for not following the uniform policy and have that on her record? I doubt that will help make your school transfer any easier...