Is this going to open a floodgate - weight loss jabs for unemployed

No - it says ‘it appears to regulate appetite’ not that it IS an appetite suppressant - see @CoverMeInMarmalade ’s explanation above.

It would be easy to think that they did not want a healthy, productive population, by allowing all of these things to be in the food in the first place. Maybe they are finally realising the cost to Society, and are trying to do something about it. They need to do something about the food industry in this Country though, as well as equipping future generations on food knowledge, and how to prepare, and cook meals made with real ingredients.

However being fat and having large amounts of adipose tissue also affects hormone functioning, its much easier to control appetite if you havent got vast swathes of internal and external adipose tissue.

The advantages outweight the risks and disadvantages for most users.

No weight loss methods come out smelling of roses, but medication is one of the better methods for sustained loss.

Hmmm. It lessens appetite. The rest seems to be hair splitting.

So codeine causes constipation in some people - so does that make it an anti-diarrhoea medication too, then?

Oh I can well believe that. And an aid to weight loss that actually produces results is more likely to change the user’s habits and expectations in the longer term.

My understanding is that semaglutide is remarkably effective. I suppose I just wonder about the longer term flight path at the population level.

Are you suggesting the appetite depression is an unwanted side effect?

Pharma/medical industry profits come first, as does cheap easy food for the population. A high complex/simple carbohydrate diet is useful in a moving population (ie, a farmer) not so much in an office culture.

People need to realise that the slice of bread they’re eating is no different to sugar, and it has the same effect on insulin. Let’s not even get into the glyphosate that’s sprayed all over it.

Regarding the hashimotos, I seem to have reversed that too judging by my last thyroid test. Insulin and t3/4 are very closely related, as is thyroid antibodies.

I spent six months on thyroxine (which made me incredibly sick) before stopping it all and starting this process.

It can be done, without injections. But for the right candidate, I do understand their use as a tool. Not to be used indiscriminately.

NHS has not used the food pyramid for 17 years.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5bbb790de5274a22415d7fee/Eatwell_guide_colour_edition.pdf

What part of “there is no shortage of mounjaro” do you not understand?

you said that the nhs isn’t able to give diabetics the drugs they need and that is incorrect. You’re just repeating total bollocks. Embarrassing.

No idea about the food pyramid but current nhs advice still seems to be eat a third of your diet via carbs. Is that good advice? I have no idea. 🤷‍♀️. I thought protein was the way forward?

www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-guidelines-and-food-labels/the-eatwell-guide/ www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-guidelines-and-food-labels/the-eatwell-guide/]]]]

Its better than it used to be but they dont seem to differentiate between which grains and starches are better than others

However those visual representations need to be very simplified for the general population. Its why for example, the 5 a day was used, actually it should be way more than that for optimum nutrition and balance but they thought no one would eat 10 a day so they dropped it to a more manageable 5. Which most people dont manage!!

I would like to see fruit in a different category if Im honest

Bread and cereals taken out separately from beans, pulses, lentils, legumes, other more nutritious starches. But the general population may see that as too faffy, then ignore it.

It’s reasonable. Mediterranean style diet has the largest evidence base for a healthy diet and the protocols a lot of the evidence was based on use food pyramid/eat well plate or something similar as part of the balance.

The biggest issue with it is likely to be that people are eating way more than 1/3 of their diet as carbs.

I'm not opposed to it. But a long-term unemployed person isn't necessarily going to think 'yaay, now that I'm slim, I have the confidence to apply for loads of jobs.'
That's not how the mind works.

The job centre will sort that out they will take away their pride.

Oh dear, this link popped up in my emails. Im not sure why I get notifications from diabetes uk but here it is. That is a great disappointment that they have fed into that false narrative.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2024/oct/unemployed-could-receive-weight-loss-jabs-to-return-to-work-says-health-secretary-wes-streeting.html

ThisOldThang, ah but it won't be for long.

soupfiend ah but this takes effort and many are too lazy to plan and cook.