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My little one’s broken another child’s toy?

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Lilimama23 · 25/08/2024 23:55

Mum of super energetic 3&3/4 years old twin boys here. We went to our local playground today. Despite the summer time and the weekend, it wasn’t busy.
At this point there were only another two boys there with their ‘dad’ /presumably/. They were playing with a couple of those little cars with remote controls. From my previous experience, I was already on high alert, as my boys just love chasing those cars. For a while I’ve tried to distract them, unsuccessfully.
I sat down on a bench and called my sister. I often do this as at home it’s nearly impossible /due to my boys above mentioned hyperactivity/. I always call my sister to offload and get advice.
While talking I was looking at the boys. Suddenly the ‘dad’ stood front of me declaring that one of my sons broke their toy car. /It was a wheel coming off but he couldn’t put it back./ I apologised, but he was still just standing there. I cut my call short to give him my full attention.
Turned out that ‘dad’ wanted me to pay for the toy, as he said that it was a precious Christmas present.
I felt awful, it felt as if my little ones were judged as criminals. I was and I’m still a bit baffled. We don’t have particularly expensive toys and the ones we take to the playground I was always prepared to lose or get them broken. It’s happened in the past and I’d have never asked parents to buy me one instead.
’Dad’ was also having a go at my parenting, by saying I should control my children. Given they’re twins I can’t be with both of them in any given moment. My boys also told me that they didn’t break it, which of course can be true or not. I didn’t see them break the car, I’ve seen them chasing it but I haven’t seen them breaking it. TBH I’m not sure what’s happened.
I genuinely feel sorry for the 5 years old little boy, whose car was broken but AIBU to feel harshly judged by ‘dad’? I eventually offered to give my name and phone number so we can arrange me to pay for it some point. Because of difficult finances I couldn’t just do it straight away. That point ‘dad’ told me to leave it, as it was.
He wasn’t aggressive but I still felt unfairly judged and criticised. I admit I’m not the most perfect mums as my boys often overwhelm me. This little playground so far was a safe haven for us because it’s secure, I can be a bit less on high alerts there compared to when we’re at home in our flat, where’s not a single minute to switch off. Now I feel anxious to go to the playground again. I just can’t stop my boys to be interested in other children’s toys. They’re just learning about possessions, about how to interact with others.

OP posts:
DreamTheMoors · 26/08/2024 02:33

@Lilimama23 I understand that your twins need to get out and burn off a little energy. And that you need a break.
You saw them chasing the car. You had the opportunity to stop them right then and there.
You did not, and as a result, another child’s toy was broken.
Denying responsibility does not absolve you of that responsibility.
If you choose to visit with someone on the phone while your children are playing, that’s fine — you still have to monitor your children adequately enough so that they don’t harm themselves or other children or other children’s belongings.
You are not obligated to pay for the toy car — but it’s the decent and proper thing to do.

MillyMollyMandHey · 26/08/2024 03:42

This can’t be real. You saw your ‘energetic’ twins chasing another child’s car, and thought, great, I’ll sit down and call my sister, because they’re giving me peace for once?

Parent your children!!

frannygallops · 26/08/2024 03:57

You can't just let them annoy other people by chasing their toys around. Tell them to stop or take them home. It's not up to other people to parent your children. No wonder the dad was pissed off with you.

TealPoet · 26/08/2024 03:59

I’m sorry you found it so stressful but your child broke it so you pay. It’s not up to you to decide whether it was too expensive to bring to the park. And I do understand you want some quiet time but you definitely needed to be actively supervising your twins rather than on the phone.

Goldbar · 26/08/2024 04:00

I'd have offered to pay half.

You were at fault for not supervising your kids properly but tbh the dad was stupid for not intervening and putting the toy away when it became apparent that it was causing problems with your two.

We often take a toy or two to the playground but they're always robust or low value and we don't take "honeypot" toys in the expectation that other parents should then have to work really hard to keep their kids away from the toy in question. That would be viewed as bad form in our local playground - parents would be mouthing "well what do you expect?" when kids were running after the car - where there is an expectation that everyone will coexist peacefully, parents won't make it harder for each other and kids will play communally to some degree. These are public play spaces and while of course kids shouldn't be forced to play together, parental behaviour should reflect that.

Both you and he were in the wrong imo.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/08/2024 04:40

@Goldbar why should the dad stop his sons from having fun with Their toys just as op wasn't looking after her own boisterous kids

Maybe they live in a flat /have no garden space to use their toy so the park is a great place

Octavia64 · 26/08/2024 04:46

I'm afraid that parks aren't really a space where you can let your twins run around, as you have discovered.

Because there are other people there you do need to be keeping a very close eye on them as they might get involved in a row with another child at pretty much any moment.

I have twins (mine are much older) and I used to take them at 6am or very late to the park and only if no-one is there is it really safe to relax vigilance a bit.

If they are very difficult at home you might benefit from getting them into a playgroup or nursery or similar - they are of an age to really benefit from time out if the house. That if they are not already.

Poppins21 · 26/08/2024 04:57

FredaFox · 26/08/2024 00:04

Sorry but if you weren't yapping on your phone you'd have been able to give your full attention to both kids and would have seen what happened

This.

GRex · 26/08/2024 04:57

I see it quite differently. Toys at the playground have a high risk of getting broken, Dad should not take them or accept the loss.He could easily have removed the toys if your children were getting too interested, and as they were his toys that was his responsibility. We don't take our remote control cars to the playground for exactly this reason. I wouldn't dream of taking money from a parent in that scenario even if offered.

You do need to mind the kids though because they could get hurt in a playground, it was a silly time for a phonecall but you've accepted that already. At 3, they should be starting nursery soon, which will surely help.

tinklingchimes · 26/08/2024 05:01

Lilimama23 · 26/08/2024 01:29

Thank you for everyone replying.
Just to clear up I called my ds after I believed that it was safe for my boys to run after the cars as they were too fast for them to catch.
I was actually asking ds if I should go back home because of this. My children were in full sight of me all the time and I didn’t see them brake the car or even touching it, I could see them chasing it. I was back and forth between the bench and them a few meters away. I think I’d just not go there again because of they’re too interested in anything which moves and/or unusual. If I wanted dc not to chase the toy car, the only solution would have been to go back home.
It definitely feels safer in an open place where there’s enough room for dc to run around then at home in a confined space.
I’m not spending excessive amount of time on my phone but very often my children are the only people I talk to for days. In a tense situation I thought someone’s advice who is close to me. I see parents/guardians much more on the phone in the playground.
I’ll try to find the ‘dad’ and pay them once I manage to save up the money. I’m glad I’ve asked independent opinions even if I had even more judgement on the way.

Whether you thought it was safe for them to chase the cars or not, can you imagine how annoying that would be for the people trying to play with their cars? You're unreasonable for that alone. I suspect a reverse but, if not, take your children home if you can't stop them interfering with other's things or have some sort of handle on their behaviour. And definitely put the phone away and supervise your children. It sounds like they need it.

WiddlinDiddlin · 26/08/2024 05:41

I really hope this IS a reverse, can someone really be this deluded?

You know your children are total chaos, they're like that in a small space at home, so you take them to a secure place to hurtle around...

Once you spotted there was a toy you know they will chase and want to grab, play with etc, you should have been supervising very closely, not making a phone call.

You were not watching them properly, because if you had been you would not have been surprised by the other kids Dad appearing in front of you, you'd have seen the incident and seen him approach.

Then it seems you knew he wanted to speak to you but you still took your sweet time ending your call - how rude.

Were you REALLY baffled and confused that he wanted you to control your children, and make good what they'd damaged?

What other people choose to do with their property is their business and doesn't give you carte blanche to let your children trample all over it. Some remote control toys are much better in a bigger open space and are designed for that.

Trust me, it isn't your kids he was judging, it was your total lack of parenting that was the problem.

Kittylickingplate · 26/08/2024 05:46

I get it, I have Twins but you are a parent and it is your job. I wouldn't take special toys to the park either BUT that is because of other children not being properly supervised which I am sorry, your boys were not. Maybe that lad has no where safe to drive his car?

Too late now but be more careful in future. Do you have someone who can give you a break? I didn't and it was bloody hard.

TinyYellow · 26/08/2024 05:54

You don’t get to complain about being judged when you ignored your two children enough that they were able to break another child’s toy. Get off the phone and supervise them if you don’t want them to break stuff and make you feel judged.

EsmeSusanOgg · 26/08/2024 05:57

Why did you leave your kids to chase another child's car? That was not ok, and was not a quiet moment to call your sister. YABU. Your poor parenting left to another child's toy being damaged.

SD1978 · 26/08/2024 05:58

Dad in inverted commas is unnecessary. You know your children are 'boisterous' (poorly behaved) and you chose to have a phone call rather than watch them both. They've damaged a toy, dad is understandably unimpressed, and you think it's unfair because you weren't supervising your children. I do think you take your chances when you bring a toy out in public to an extent, but you seem to be utterly playing the victim when you really should be watching your kids knowing they are three and can be a handful.

Borninabarn32 · 26/08/2024 06:02

I don't understand why you thought it was ok for your children to be chasing the other kids remote control car. They're trying to play and your kids were ruining that for them. Even if they hadn't broken it they were interfering with the other kids play.

They're nearly 4, they can understand that they can't play with other people's toys.

You saw them being difficult for the other kid and their parent and chose to go sit down and have a chat and not watch them. You're literally every other parents worst nightmare when they take their own kids out.

Olika · 26/08/2024 06:03

I understand you felt you could be a bit less alert at the playground as I feel this way too at a certain playground we visit but I still have DD in my sigh at all times and I don't let her run too far from me. But with two kids running around you have to give them your full attention especially when there are other people around you. Anything can happen at any time. You should be having your phone convos when her kids are asleep.

TulipCat · 26/08/2024 06:09

I don't think the dad was really expecting you to pay for the damage; he was making a point about the consequences of not supervising your children properly. I agree with PP that bringing any toy to a public park risks damage or loss, it's the fact that you weren't really paying attention that's rightly annoyed him.

dystopiaisonus · 26/08/2024 06:10

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LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 26/08/2024 06:27

And this is exactly why I don’t take my nightmare twins (5 last week) to a park if I’m on my own - they don’t listen to me or do as they’re told most of the time so they don’t go. If they behave then they get to go and play.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/08/2024 06:37

Yikes.

Look, I sympathise with you having twins and not getting a moment to yourself to just switch off. That must be hard.

But you recognise that your children are a handful, you knew they were interested in the remote control car, you talk about how difficult it is to keep an eye on both of them at once, and yet you decided to not watch either of them but have a chat with your sister instead?

How does this story end? Did you pay for the broken car or not? Because if you didn't and that other family can't afford to replace it, there's a little kid out there whose precious Christmas present is ruined because you weren't watching your kids and you didn't do the right thing and pay for the damage.

Anonymous2224 · 26/08/2024 06:40

I think it depends how it was broken. Tripped and accidentally fell on top of it while playing nicely. Nope you don’t pay it was an accident and these things happen with kids. Took it off its owner and threw it across the playground, yeah you should probably pay and have some words with your boy.

Temushopper · 26/08/2024 06:40

I think you were both unreasonable. You should have been watching your 3 year olds and intervening to direct them not to chase the car but equally a public children’s play area is a stupid place to choose for trying out a child’s new remote control car and if the dad had any sense he’d have moved to a different location or put it away and said his child could play later.
@Blondeshavemorefun why it’s a stupid place is because in general you teach small kids at public play areas about taking turns and sharing the equipment so bringing something kids will likely be super interested in is creating a situation where you know there is a risk it could be broken. Even if OP were with the kids the toy could easily still have been broken by one child as she was helping the other get on/off play equipment or comforting one after a bump etc. Also because something wizzing about at floor level where other kids will be playing isn’t the safest. I find it hard to believe there are not lots of spaces outside to play with a car that are not the fenced play area designed for young kids to run around in and share the equipment. If there really are not where OP lives and the child with the car lives somewhere with no space then it wasn’t the most sensible gift in the first place.
The OP should stick with the kids in public and the dad should find a more sensible location to play with the kids expensive new toy.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/08/2024 06:43

MolkosTeenageAngst · 26/08/2024 00:40

A remote control car isn’t an ideal toy to bring to a park where kids of all ages are likely to be running about. I don’t think YABU, you shouldn’t bring toys to the park if they’re expensive or sentimental, especially toys they by their very nature involve them being at the other side of the park to the owner.

So only children who are lucky enough to live in a house with a garden should be allowed to have remote control cars now?

WingSluts · 26/08/2024 06:45

Lilimama23 · 26/08/2024 00:58

I simply don’t know if he was the dad.

You don’t know if the toy was a Christmas present or not but that didn’t make it into inverted commas. You were simply being a bit dismissive of him, weren’t you?

Less talking, more parenting next time.