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DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/07/2024 23:30

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

I am fascinated by history, @DonnySue - medieval Europe, the Plantagenets, the Wars of the Roses, and the Tudors, particularly - but I know that not everyone shares my interest, and that the conversation can’t stay on my particular interest. It is great to talk history for a while, but if other people want to change the subject, I respect that.

And whilst I do enjoy thinking about history, I wouldn’t keep trying to force the conversation back to my favourite topic, if it had moved on. Other people have different interests to me, and it is only polite and fair to let them enjoy talking about their interests too.

gavisconismyfriend · 21/07/2024 23:31

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:01

I’d absolutely love to but I can’t afford it 😞 I always say if I won the lottery the first thing I’d do is pursue a degree in history

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/07/2024 23:32

Ah, the triumphalism of the mentally challenged ! Laugh at what you don’t understand, it will make you feel cosy and safe…l.

Branleuse · 21/07/2024 23:34

Id be so upset if my family mocked me like that

StaunchMomma · 21/07/2024 23:34

LostTheMarble · 21/07/2024 21:00

It’s definitely giving Sistine Chapel isn’t it…

Maybe she 'wailed'?

Vamozz · 21/07/2024 23:37

Thedayb4youcame · 21/07/2024 23:29

Genuine question, do you think those who were born in Britain should be ashamed of their history? I've heard comments like this before and it really makes me stop & think.

I've studied very little of history of any country (I don't find it at all interesting) and my interest in British history begins at the end of the Second World War. After 1945, I'm a sponge for it. Before that, not a glimmer of interest.

Yes I do. Obviously there's good and bad as with all things. But the fact that schools here only seems to teach how wonderful the empire was is shameful. If people knew the damage that was wreaked across the countries they colonised (including genocide) then they would (should) be ashamed. However as the saying goes..."history is written by the victors" (Churchill...ironically 😔)

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 23:39

Thedayb4youcame · 21/07/2024 23:29

Genuine question, do you think those who were born in Britain should be ashamed of their history? I've heard comments like this before and it really makes me stop & think.

I've studied very little of history of any country (I don't find it at all interesting) and my interest in British history begins at the end of the Second World War. After 1945, I'm a sponge for it. Before that, not a glimmer of interest.

Personally, I don't think any individual people need to be ashamed as such, but the British state has much to be ashamed of in its history - and top of the list IMO is how ignorant its population is of that. Living in NI it's the ignorance I'm more likely to find offensive in individuals than any lack of shame. If that makes any sense.

Chocolatefrogs · 21/07/2024 23:43

StaunchMomma · 21/07/2024 23:34

Maybe she 'wailed'?

This isn’t very nice or helpful. The OP has said she’s feeling embarrassed after her family laughed at her. To her credit, she has been very open and honest about what happened to prompt her family to laugh at her and about her interest as well.

Your posts seem to be mocking her further, by suggesting she’s acting performatively and exaggeratedly to get attention. In fact, it seems to me - and quite a few other posters on here - that the OP was just expressing a genuine interest and reaction to the topic she was talking about with her family. They then reacted to that with surprise, she was upset/embarrassed by their reaction and she’s now come on here to try and canvas opinions to try and make sense of it all.

Yet you’re carrying on the jokey, mocking side of the situation, which suggests you don’t seem to care about how she might be feeling. It’s easy to do on the Internet, especially when you’re just an anonymous poster, but it’s not nice.

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 23:44

@Chocolatefrogs OP's posts remind many of us of a notorious troll. That's the reference to wailing.

DeadbeatYoda · 21/07/2024 23:46

Whatwasthatshow · 21/07/2024 22:45

Are you neurodiverse @DonnySue ? x

Yep, that's what I wondered too. The hobby, the 'reflection', the difficulty understanding the weirdness of the behaviour. Don't get me wrong, I'm from an ND family so wouldn't have thought much about a situation like this but undiagnosed ASD is certainly coming to mind here.

Thedayb4youcame · 21/07/2024 23:48

Vamozz · 21/07/2024 23:37

Yes I do. Obviously there's good and bad as with all things. But the fact that schools here only seems to teach how wonderful the empire was is shameful. If people knew the damage that was wreaked across the countries they colonised (including genocide) then they would (should) be ashamed. However as the saying goes..."history is written by the victors" (Churchill...ironically 😔)

Thank you for replying.

Acapulco12 · 21/07/2024 23:50

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 23:44

@Chocolatefrogs OP's posts remind many of us of a notorious troll. That's the reference to wailing.

@CelesteCunningham thanks. I got the reference to the Sistine Chapel thread and I remember it. Obviously I don’t know if this OP is the same one who started the Sistine Chapel thread, but her posting style seems quite different and, in this thread, she’s making herself vulnerable by being so open about things that she feels embarrassed by, so I don’t really understand how comparing herself to the Sistine Chapel OP is going to help. All it will achieve is make her feel invalidated.

XChrome · 21/07/2024 23:53

OP, only shallow people would think there's something strange or funny about you being thoughtful. You're smarter and a better person than they are, clearly.
The only other reason I can think of is that they'd had too much to drink.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 22/07/2024 00:07

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 21/07/2024 23:16

Yes, very much so. I find it fascinating. OP, do look for history evening classes, and groups, online or IRL, of people who share your interests.

Ended rather abruptly as my phone was about to conk out! OP, you don’t have to do a university degree. There are lots of adult education courses and interest groups where you’d be learning and mixing with people who share your interests. Ot’s so much more fun when you’ve got people to share your interest with.

But it also sounds as if your family are quite interested, as they were discussing history with you. Their laughter hurt your feelings, and reminds me of feeling like a boring little swot among the cool kidd st school. But they probably didn’t mean to offend you. Try to just laugh it off, and see if you can keep the conversation going.

Best of luck, OP. Never let anyone squash your enthusiasm!

VanGoghsDog · 22/07/2024 00:08

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

Yes, but I don't find I need special time to reflect on it. I also don't forget about it. My thoughts just drift in and out of my head while I'm doing other things.

If I'd not wanted to join in talking about Trump (understandable) I'd just have zoned out a bit where I was and no doubt, without any positive action, my brain would simply bring up snippets of the previous conversation for me to mull over. Noone would know I was doing it. If they asked why I wasn't involved in the new topic I'd just say"sorry, drifted off a bit there".

Haggisfish3 · 22/07/2024 00:12

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

I don’t think you’re weird at all and I think your family were downright bloody rude. And they will have made dd feel awful, too. I think you did absolutely the right thing and I often think about stuff like this, too. When I walk along a path we think has been in existence since Stone Age, I always think about those people and what their thoughts were. Actually I think people who don’t think like us are the weird ones. How can you not think about this stuff?!?

Rediscoverme · 22/07/2024 00:14

donnysue yes!absolutely fascinating.DS 16 would have been breeding and killing rabbits not that long ago. And yes, being trained to chuck axes a long time ago. I, and my mum would be dead from childbirth, that’s if we’d survived chicken pox etc.
live heard people say Stonehenge isn’t that great. Err what?!
I think it’s great that you take time to reflect. Yes, the dungeons are fun, but if you stop to think, this stuff was actually done to actual people. What kind of mentality lived then?
Would love to be able to travel in time.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 22/07/2024 00:17

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

There's a strong vein of anti-intellectualism in this country. People would rather watch football and be cattle for clever people to make money off. Hence laughing at people who take any study seriously and think about it. Hence laughing at kids in school who actually want to learn something. I'd just pity your family and smile sweetly. Or discuss what the latest football/instagram/Coronation St idol is telling them to think. And get on with worthwhile study while they're not there.

Wheresthebeach · 22/07/2024 00:25

Yes I think it was unkind of them. Nothing wrong with a bit of thinking and reflecting. Not sure why it’s hilarious.

ToffeeSquirrels · 22/07/2024 00:25

Crikey, have you been on a Counselling course OP?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/07/2024 00:32

Nothing wrong with thinking and reflecting, no, @Wheresthebeach - but did the OP need to tell anyone?

When her dd asked her what she was doing, why not just say she was out for a bit of fresh air or a few minutes quiet?

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 22/07/2024 00:33

I love clouds. I’ve been known to ask my stepdad to stop the car so I can take a picture if there is an amazing cloud formation 😂 I admit it is really weird and don’t get offended when they take the piss.

This is very similar to your situation. I wouldn’t get offended - you are the one doing something out of the ordinary. Not that it’s wrong, just that people don’t always understand ‘different’.

Wheresthebeach · 22/07/2024 00:36

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/07/2024 00:32

Nothing wrong with thinking and reflecting, no, @Wheresthebeach - but did the OP need to tell anyone?

When her dd asked her what she was doing, why not just say she was out for a bit of fresh air or a few minutes quiet?

Edited

I suspect OP didn’t expect her DD to repeat it. Just a quick, honest answer that didn’t take the possibility of other peoples unkind reaction into consideration.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/07/2024 00:43

I get that, @Wheresthebeach - but I’m not sure she needed to tell her dd that she was thinking and reflecting. It just seems a bit performative.

Mirabai · 22/07/2024 00:45

It’s a bit “Wouldn’t you just die without Mahler”? But if you want to ponder the Middle Ages I say gfi.

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