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To feel desperately sorry for kids leaving state "care"?

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BlowDryRat · 03/10/2023 12:01

I have to admit my ignorance on this, so correct me if I'm wrong.

The more I see on here and read in the news about failings in state care for children, the more appalled I am. It must be absolutely terrifying to be coming up to your 18th birthday, knowing that from then on you're on your own. Imagine sitting your A-levels through that. Living in a hostel, no safety net, no bank of Mum and Dad, no home for the holidays if you go to uni, no one who gives a flying fuck, just you slogging your way to haul yourself into adulthood. Kids are leaving foster placements and children's homes not knowing how to cook, do laundry or manage a budget. WTAF. Kicking kids out at 18 totally unprepared for the world and washing your hands of them isn't care. It shouldn't be up to charities to try to pick up the pieces.

YABU - you have no idea what you're talking about and children leaving care are well supported.

YANBU - it's disgraceful.

Any pointers to campaigns/charities/more info in this area would be welcome too.

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Showerflowers · 13/01/2025 10:43

My dd best friend was in care and transferred to a ymca when she was 16!. This was 20 years ago nearly. The place was awful. She was terrified. She was so vulnerable and confided in my dd, told her she had no choice but to return home to her abusive father. Better the devil you know she said. So she came to live with us. Her social worker did sort it so I could claim child benefit for her while she went to college but it was still a strain on us as a family. She stayed for two years then left for university. Came home to us for holidays but then settled in her university city when she was 20 with a bf.

We found our local ymca has a project called open doors. If you've got a spare room and think you can help guide and support a teen leaving care then there's a support package available through the ymca.

Our 8th teen left in the summer last year.

zingally · 13/01/2025 11:13

My dad was an adult mentor for kids leaving care.

He joint-authored a book about being in care with 2 of them, and was a witness in court for another when she had to sue her grandfather after he took all her parents money (they died in a car accident when she was about 16).

He was very involved in their lives, and met up with all of them many times for face to face conversations. He was in their lives for probably about 10 years.

Guess how many of them offered condolences when we reached out via email to let them know that he'd died unexpectedly?

None of them.

Make of that what you will. These were all adults in their late 20s, holding down professional graduate level jobs by this point.

As a family, we were quite upset by this. These people had been a huge part of my dads life for 10 years. He'd spoken of them often, and very fondly. And for his grieving widow to not even get a "sorry for your loss" was... difficult.

He went out of his way to support 3 very vulnerable young adults, just starting out on adult life, and was about to take on a fourth. But that apparently meant nothing to them.

E, E and S, if you're ever reading this. I'd love to know why.

WaryCrow · 13/01/2025 11:28

Gogogo12345 · 13/01/2025 10:18

I don't think it's new. I was a care leaver back in late 80sand was given a council flat just before my 17th birthday. . However I was well able to sort my own cooking washing etc. surely this should be taught to all kids ,and even more so to those in care.

Social services did pay the rent for the first year which made me feel very well off and I was too young for poll tax. I was working full time in the day and doing my A levels at evening classes. So built is plenty of savings and learned to drive.

You don't need to continue to be a " victim" of circumstances.

Bought my first home when I was 20

And what relevance does your experience in the 80s have for kids now?

We DO NOT have council houses. We DO NOT have adequate benefits that even pay the rent. The experience of baby boomers just is not relevant because we do not live in the same country any more no matter if it is geographically or temporally continuous. Your generation has made life more and more shit - and shot, as my keyboard first wrote - for those behind. Every single boomer posting the “sorry” tale of their experiences needs to understand that before coming out with their lessons.

Like @Caspianberg i wasn’t much better off than a care leaver and I don’t think I would try now, it was hard enough back then.

Gogogo12345 · 13/01/2025 12:04

WaryCrow · 13/01/2025 11:28

And what relevance does your experience in the 80s have for kids now?

We DO NOT have council houses. We DO NOT have adequate benefits that even pay the rent. The experience of baby boomers just is not relevant because we do not live in the same country any more no matter if it is geographically or temporally continuous. Your generation has made life more and more shit - and shot, as my keyboard first wrote - for those behind. Every single boomer posting the “sorry” tale of their experiences needs to understand that before coming out with their lessons.

Like @Caspianberg i wasn’t much better off than a care leaver and I don’t think I would try now, it was hard enough back then.

I'm simply saying it's nothing new with the lack of support. There was no more support after I got the flat

Get off your high horse.

And there are council flats still going. I know of 3 people got one in the last year

Btw how the hell am I a baby boomer? That's my mums generation. I was born in the 70s

Deadringer · 13/01/2025 12:57

We have to remember too that a lot of care leavers are damaged in some way, whether it's birth defects or learning difficulties due to their parents drug/drink problems, or trauma. My youngest is barely getting through school, she is unlikely to go to college and would find it very hard to keep a job, despite our best efforts her focus, time keeping and self care skills are not that of a 'normal' teenager. She can only be supported by the system for so long, most girls in her position end up teen mothers with abusive boyfriends, which is what happened to both of her older sisters. It's very sad.

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