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[HermioneKipper]

My thread asking about transwomen/transitioning/penises has been deleted.

Why are we not allowed to discuss this? It’s a genuine question and extremely relevant to the debate about transwomen entering female spaces.

There was no abuse of trans people that I could see aside from a few people attempting to derail by saying that they couldn’t see why women might be concerned about having to share their space!

This isn’t right

True but this thread will be deleted too as being a TAAT.

Were you not given a reason for it's deletion. It was an interesting thread. Maybe someone reported you.

What is TAAT?

Why was it deleted?

I’m amazed it lasted as long as it did.

You’re not allowed to mention the thing that Blanchard has noted on here.

This thread will go the same way (ostensibly because it’s a TAAT, but also because of the Thing That Must Not Be Mentioned).

Please some of us are new here, don't understand the posts. Blanchard?

Well that's gutting.

I felt it presented both arguments for and against.

thing that must not be named?

it was a relatively balanced thread I thought. what a shame.

and a very good question.

women don't have penises. if a person with a penis wants to be a woman, why would they retain their penis?

@Cailin66

What is TAAT?

thread about a thread

@Cailin66

thing that must not be named?

It seems you must Google B*&^%$#@ typology

TAAT = Thread About A Thread
Ray Blanchard - researcher who proposed the term 'autogynephilia'. Mentions of this term on MN usually are deleted.

I read your thread and saw no harm in it. How odd to single out a factual and informative topic. Plenty more bizarre questions on MN, every day!

thanks so much everybody. Why can't you mention Auto G on here? It is after all a real thing. And there are threads from widows on it are there not.

Fucking censorship. It seems there is nowhere to have this discussion or ask questions.

The reason given was that it broke talk guidelines.

I forgot about the TAAT thing. It means Thread About A Thread.

Google Blanchard's transsexualism typology

his thread will go the same way (ostensibly because it’s a TAAT, but also because of the Thing That Must Not Be Mentioned)

The other thing that must not be mentioned is male power over women.

It was a very good thread, lots of information for those who don’t actually understand what we’re grappling with.

This one will go, too.

@Cailin66

thanks so much everybody. Why can't you mention Auto G on here? It is after all a real thing. And there are threads from widows on it are there not.

It is disputed by some and generally viewed as a negative is, by some.

It opened my eyes however

How did it break talk guidelines, it was very polite, interesting and informative.

The deletion message...

Message from MNHQ: We've removed this thread as a large number of posts break our talk guidelines, specifically; sweeping negative generalisations about any group, including trans people and gender-critical feminists, won’t be tolerated

There are 3 main groups within the trans umbrella Cailin66:

1. those who were referred to as "transsexuals", suffers of crippling gender dysphoria;
2. (mainly) young people having identity confusion/disorders of many types;
3. other people with other motivations.

We're not allowed to discuss the 3) group of people.

@Cailin66

thanks so much everybody. Why can't you mention Auto G on here? It is after all a real thing. And there are threads from widows on it are there not.

Because we're meant to pretend it doesn't exist or the posts are reported.

thanks nauaticant - I'm learning everyday.

The thread was simply discussing facts which have become very relevant over the last decade or so. The fact this discussion has been censored feels very disturbing.

Who decided group 3 can't be discussed. Because it is discussed in the widow's thread, by women married to such men, is it only allowed on there? And yes I'm now aware this thead will be deleted soon.