Unite Unions and Many Other LGBT Organisations Lobby Government to Lower the Age of Consent

[gardenbird48]

A large number of organisations led by IGLA World (International Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trans and Intersex Organisation) are promoting what they call a ‘Feminist Declaration’

According to Legal Feminist there are provisions (fairly well buried) urging governments to ‘eliminate... laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents... to provide consent to sex.’

While the Women’s Human Rights Campaign (in Australia nb this is being lobbied in the UK as well) does not want teenagers labelled sex offenders for consensual non-abusive sexual activity with their peers ... there is concern that these demands would remove the ability to protect children from exploitation by adults and older adolescents.

Stonewall and Mermaids (plus Proud Trust etc) are signatories to this. I haven’t read the whole document but I trust Legal Feminist and they are livid about this.

We need to be reinforcing safeguards not removing them - who will benefit from this? It won’t be the girls.

Did we see the recent case of the young girl abused by firefighters in France was undermined by their low (or lack of?) age of consent.

feministlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Media-Release-on-CSW-and-ILGA-_28-Mar-2021-1.pdf

What! I wonder if their members know this is where their subs are going. Yet another reason trade union membership is in decline even while workers' rights are going backwards.

here is the wording in the actual document (link at the bottom) - carefully grouped in with other acceptable (indeed necessary) demands.

14.Respect the rights of all individuals to exercise autonomy over their lives, including their sexualities, identities and bodies, desires and pleasures free from all types of discrimination, coercion and violence, and fully realize sexual and reproductive rights, and ensure bodily autonomy, integrity and sovereignty, by taking the following actions:
a. Eliminate all laws and policies that punish or criminalize same-sex intimacy, gender affirmation, abortion, HIV transmission non-disclosure and exposure, or that limit the exercise of bodily autonomy, including laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents, people with disabilities or other groups to provide consent to sex or sexual and reproductive health services or laws authorizing non-consensual abortion, sterilization, or contraceptive use;
^b. Put in place affirmative measures to reduce violence, stigma and
discrimination against people based on their sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, and sex characteristics, enact legal protections for LGBTQ, gender non-conforming and intersex people, and take other legal, policy, and educational measures to support individuals to exercise autonomy over their bodies and lives;^
c. Ensure access to timely and quality gender affirming services and care, including all health services and ability to obtain legal gender recognition based on self-determination;

iwhc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Beijing-25-Feminist-declaration.pdf

What on earth has this got to do with trade unions?

“including laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents, people with disabilities or other groups to provide consent to sex”

Would that include people with intellectual disabilities such that they were unable to consent to sex? That’s really quite sinister.

Bloody hell! ‘Eliminate laws that punish or criminalise.....including laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents.....to provide consent to sex’

The World Health Organisation defines adolescents as between 12-19 years of age. 12....

Eliminate all laws and policies that punish or criminalize ...HIV transmission non-disclosure and exposure

Am I reading that right? If an individual knows they are HIV positive but doesn't tell a potential sexual partner and doesn't practise safe sex, that's all fine, is it? Or am I missing something here? I thought it was established in the UK that this is a criminal offence because it causes actual bodily harm.

That is going too far. If someone has HIV they should tell their partner.

Wait, what?

Lower the age of consent ?

Is that what they are saying ?

Sorry - somehow added an irrelevant link to that post. Here it is corrected wish there was an edit option MNHQ

This is shocking - another strategy in the push to undermine safeguarding and sexualise kids that's going on everywhere in the name of progress.

Dentons advised the trans lobbyists to hook up their demands to 'popular causes' (so self-id brought in in Ireland along with legalising abortion) rather than trying to lobby for less easily defended propositions. So here we have trade unions and feminists - the term 'feminists' is being used very loosely - pushing to lower the age of consent.

Now who on earth would benefit from such a move? [puzzled face]

And don’t tell your sexual partner you have HIV ?

The 'Feminist Declaration' claims that they involved feminist groups among many other groups in the production of their document.

However, an actual feminist group, the WHRC (Women's Human Rights Campaign) wasn't the right kind of feminist group to consult....

Meanwhile the WHRC was last week expelled from the Exhibition Hall during the NGO CSW Virtual Forum. WHRC promotes the Declaration on Women’s Sex-Based Rights which advocates for continued recognition of women as adult human females and the freedom to express this reality and also works to protect women and children from sexual and reproductive exploitation, male violence and medical experimentation.

If the world was feeling like a normal place I wouldn't be too worried about this 'Feminist Declaration' - they would show it to the government, the government would say 'no, take out those really dodgy bits', the papers would be in up arms about the really dodgy parts and all would be well.

Nowadays, I'm not so sure - I'm half expecting this to be sponsored all the way through parliament by Crispin Blunt and Caroline Nokes

My post above has started looking a bit confusing. For clarity (I hope)

There is the

'Feminist Declaration' (promoted by lots of LGBTQ groups and Unions and not at all in the interests of women and safeguarding) and then there is the

Declaration on Women's Sex-Based Rights created by the Women's Human Rights Campaign (who DO support women).

I wonder how these two contradictory but apparently overlapping Declarations came about? Suspicious me would suggest it was deliberate - the Declaration on Women's Sex-Based Rights was first.

womensdeclaration.com/en/declaration-womens-sex-based-rights-summary/

'Feminist Declaration'

How remotely is this "feminist"? Fuck all the way off.

This is queer theory writ large.

I am not in the slightest bit surprised to see certain UK organisations have signed up to this. They repeatedly demonstrate that safeguarding children from sexual exploitation is of no interest to them and this rather confirms it doesn't it?

I'm with you garden... normally I'd just mutter about the random bastards and carry on plumping my scatter cushions and knitting mufflers for Christmas. But so many safeguarding principles have been set aside by the aggressive woke of late, that this feels dangerous. Particularly since they managed to get all these supposedly reasonable mainstream organisations to sign up (as well as the usual suspects).

Are you sure this isn't about ensuring the age of consent is the same age for straight and gay people?

@Hibari

Are you sure this isn't about ensuring the age of consent is the same age for straight and gay people?

well it is in the UK.

This bit says 'eliminate all laws ... limiting legal capacity of adolescents ... to provide consent to sex.' (below). If you can find any parts that contradict that fairly clear statement in the rest of the document I'll be all ears.

a. Eliminate all laws and policies that punish or criminalize same-sex intimacy, gender affirmation, abortion, HIV transmission non-disclosure and exposure, or that limit the exercise of bodily autonomy, including laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents, people with disabilities or other groups to provide consent to sex or sexual and reproductive health services or laws authorizing non-consensual abortion, sterilization, or contraceptive use;

Are you sure this isn't about ensuring the age of consent is the same age for straight and gay people

It is already.

Who would benefit from the proposal, other than pederasts?
Why is it being labelled as 'feminist' when its men pushing it?

@Hibari

Are you sure this isn't about ensuring the age of consent is the same age for straight and gay people?

Are there many/any countries where homosexuality is legal but at a different age than heterosexual sex?

The UK has 16 for both

I'm sure I've got this wrong.

They are advocating for not having to tell someone you've got AIDS, if you are having unprotected sex with them?

And advocating sex with 12-year-olds to be made legal?

@Thelnebriati

Who would benefit from the proposal, other than pederasts? Why is it being labelled as 'feminist' when its men pushing it?

I know, I know!