Paul Aubee and the phenomeon of male psychopaths getting into female prisons, and their credulous validation by the media etc.

[PalatineUvula]

(Jean-)Paul Aubee is described here (scroll down)

injusticebusters.org/04/Aubee_Jean_Paul.shtml

He is a violent psychopathic misogynist who murdered a witness, on behalf of a gang.

He had previously been paid by the same gang to protect the witness, but they then changed their mind and wanted him dead.

The RCMP (this is Canada) knew that he had killed him, but they could not prove it. However they went undercover and got Aubee to confess, on the pretext that they were looking to hire Aubee for criminal activities. In addition, the skull of Aubee's victim was found in the woods by a hiker.

Aubee was a " tough-talking, beer-swilling trucker who spouted profanity and bragged about his prowess as a hired killer to undercover police officers "

When Aubee went on trial he tried to blame the crime on his ex-wife

"Though he denied hating her, he continually volunteered information about his ex-wife's past shortcomings as a mother, wife and citizen during his testimony, even telling jurors he thought she might have a sexually transmitted disease."

Aubee was sent to prison in 2003.

As a smart and dangerous prisoner Aubee made a bit of a nuisance of himself in prison.

In 2015, he complained about the food at his prison, in his role as prison advocate.

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/prison-food-after-cutbacks-called-disgusting-and-inadequate-by-b-c-inmates-1.2989657

""There is a chicken stew that they make, and the chicken smells rotten, you can't even eat it,” says Aubee, who does not believe the new menu contains enough protein for adult men."

In January 2017, Trudeau pronounced, off-the-cuff

that transwomen would be sent to women's prison.

Aubee is not dumb, and took immediate advantage of Trudeau's pronouncement, saying that he, having changed from 2015 when he was still 'Jean-Paul' to 'Fallon Aubee', and wanted out of men's prison. www.cbc.ca/news/politics/transgender-prison-policy-trudeau-1.4075500

This was duly granted just three months later www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fallon-aubee-transgender-inmate-1.4215594 when Aubee became the first penis owner to be sent to female prison in Canada

Shortly after this transfer, this was made official CSC policy, in December of 2017.

www.cbc.ca/news/politics/transgender-inmates-csc-policy-1.4512510

Since then a large number of men have been sent to women's prisons in Canada.

One such offender, Matthew Harks, was a very dangerous and devious sex offender with an incurable attraction to girls aged under 9 years old, who was transferred into a female prison presumably in 2018. There he was able to sexually assault two women

He was subsequently released to a female halfway house complete with satellite mother-and-baby unit. This was despite a known history of seeking out mothers in order to gain access to rape their children

torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-monster-pedophile-back-behind-bars

(After a public outcry, Harks has now been recalled to prison, but this comes in spite of unequivocal knowledge that women and girls will NEVER be safer around him. Harks had previously had his conditions relaxed in 2014 calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/parole-board-removes-special-conditions-for-convicted-pedophile

but was jailed again in 2016 because he breached the rules toronto.ctvnews.ca/brampton-mayor-asks-feds-why-convicted-pedophile-has-been-dumped-in-the-city-1.4349184)

This is of course not specific to Canada - in the UK politicians seem to think that a dangerous man in a dress is no longer dangerous, and Lord Patel happily invited Karen Jones/Mark Jones, a very dangerous sex offender and convicted killer, and Jasmine Good/Darren Goode (now I believe Jasmine Strange) who preyed on 102 year old women as a burglar, to the House of Lords to advise on their wishes.

Sorry that last link may be broken with the ) toronto.ctvnews.ca/brampton-mayor-asks-feds-why-convicted-pedophile-has-been-dumped-in-the-city-1.4349184

Holymoly OP that is bonkers stuff.

Yeps

Soon as men do this pretending they think they are women they somehow become not dangerous convicted crims

Thread duly saved for posterity in case some of our "watchers" report for misgendering.

(It would be an utter travesty if MNHQ took down this thread on the grounds of misgendering - especially since Justine herself came on a thread on which I had directly asked whether I would be expected to refrain from using male pronouns for convicted, be-penised male rapists, and assured me that that would not merit a deletion).

Thank you PalatineUvula for digging around and shining light on this! I'll have a good read of your links once the DC are in bed. It's utterly disgusting how badly women and children's safety are blithely disregarded for the sake of being seen as right on.

Also don't forget everyone, this doesn't happen, its all a mirageeee

Is it the effect of plastics or a catastrophic decline in teaching critical skills? Who could possibly think men like this, with criminal convictions for violence against women and children, should be in women's prisons.

Just did a search on one of the people mentioned above. JFC.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440153/Trans-convict-invited-speak-House-Lords.html

BTW in terms of these men's pronouns, the second one is straightforward - the child sexual abuse cop said 'this man transitioned purely to gain access to children'.

So we don't really need to wonder too much about his pronouns.

In the case of the first man, my point was really about WHO is taking advantage of this stuff, and the first person to go through Trudeau's process, was not some poor downtrodden immigrant transwoman who was doing 'survival sex work', no this was a married man who evaded capture for murder, and then stood up in court and blamed and insulted his wife (the gallery is reported to have laughed), and then in prison became a prisoners' rights activist.

In other words this is

(a) a father
(b) a misogynist
(c) a violent killer
(d) someone who lived for decades as a man
(e) someone about whom there is plenty of evidence that he lived in prison as a man (he appears as 'JP Aubee' in various prisoner magazines online - NOT 'F Aubee'), until suddenly Trudeau says 'transwomen can go to female prison' and he is 'Fallon Aubee'. Where did that come from?

And do note btw this is a hard man who boasted about having people killed, yet he reckons he was being sexually assaulted in prison.

Well maybe, but it seems likely that as a prisoners' rights activist he knew exactly what he was doing, and he pushed the buttons to get himself out of men's prison.

Clearly some criminals take advantage of transgender identity because they are, well, criminals.

We all want to protect transwomen, but that doesn't mean you should ignore all the big flashing warnings.

These people are not so much hiding in plain site as plain not hiding at all! There must be a lot of people in BC who followed Aubee's trial live and remembered his misogyny, I mean it's not as if we don't have anything to go on with these people. Or are we just expected to ignore the warning signs?

jesus

i'm not sure what else to say. seeing it all written down like that is just jaw dropping

We see this phenomenon of 'man says he's trans, becomes no threat to children/girls or women, despite being a sex offender' all the time now, don't we?

The NSPCC manages to hold concurrently the positions that a boy might be a risk to his sister so shouldn't share a bedroom, but the same boy could declare himself trans and they'd be fine with letting him into the girls' changing room - and, presumably, back into the bedroom with his sister.

Their recent tweet declaring that trans people can go into the toilets or changing rooms they want to is similarly a belief that a man declaring himself trans removes all threat to women.

MhairiV: the DM messed up that article

There were actually THREE people in the picture with Lord Patel

The other was Darren Goode -> Jasmine Goode -> Jasmine Strange over at Prick News www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/24/these-powerful-stories-from-two-trans-ex-offenders-remind-us-why-we-need-to-support-trans-rights-today/

You can read about Darren/Jasmine Goode/Strange here

www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/sex-swap-burglar-jasmine-goode-fathered-2274842

Darren/Jasmine appeared on a BBC documentary about unsafe sex here at 31:45

Darren/Jasmine claims to be intersex which is vanishingly unlikely.

What are you all on about? This never happens.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer

Serial killers may be more likely to engage in fetishism, partialism or necrophilia, which are paraphilias that involve a strong tendency to experience the object of erotic interest almost as if it were a physical representation of the symbolized body. Individuals engage in paraphilias which are organized along a continuum; participating in varying levels of fantasy perhaps by focusing on body parts (partialism), symbolic objects which serve as physical extensions of the body (fetishism), or the anatomical physicality of the human body; specifically regarding its inner parts and sexual organs (one example being necrophilia)

^A disproportionate number exhibit one, two, or all three of the Macdonald triad of predictors of future violent behavior:
Many are fascinated with fire setting.^

They are involved in sadistic activity; especially in children who have not reached sexual maturity, this activity may take the form of torturing animals.

And

Children who do not have the power to control the mistreatment they suffer sometimes create a new reality to which they can escape. This new reality becomes their fantasy that they have total control of and becomes part of their daily existence. In this fantasy world, their emotional development is guided and maintained. According to Garrison (1996), "the child becomes sociopathic because the normal development of the concepts of right and wrong and empathy towards others is retarded because the child's emotional and social development occurs within his self-centered fantasies. A person can do no wrong in his own world and the pain of others is of no consequence when the purpose of the fantasy world is to satisfy the needs of one person" (Garrison, 1996). Boundaries between fantasy and reality are lost and fantasies turn to dominance, control, sexual conquest, and violence, eventually leading to murder. Fantasy can lead to the first step in the process of a dissociative state, which, in the words of Stephen Giannangelo, "allows the serial killer to leave the stream of consciousness for what is, to him, a better place".

And

Organized serial killers often plan their crimes methodically, usually abducting victims, killing them in one place and disposing of them in another. They often lure the victims with ploys appealing to their sense of sympathy. Others specifically target prostitutes, who are likely to go voluntarily with a stranger. These killers maintain a high degree of control over the crime scene and usually have a solid knowledge of forensic science that enables them to cover their tracks, such as burying the body or weighing it down and sinking it in a river. They follow their crimes in the news media carefully and often take pride in their actions, as if it were all a grand project. Often, organized killers have social and other interpersonal skills sufficient to enable them to develop both personal and romantic relationships, friends and lovers and sometimes even attract and maintain a spouse and sustain a family including children. Among serial killers, those of this type are in the event of their capture most likely to be described by acquaintances as kind and unlikely to hurt anyone.

And

Some people with a pathological interest in the power of life and death tend to be attracted to medical professions or acquiring such a job. These kinds of killers are sometimes referred to as "angels of death" or angels of mercy. Medical professionals will kill their patients for money, for a sense of sadistic pleasure, for a belief that they are "easing" the patient's pain, or simply "because they can".

Now I'm going to stress that trans people are not serial killers in any way.

But there is a profile here in which those with these tenancies certainly would be draw to TRA ideology and would want to hide behind it.

And because this profile is very distinctive it does pose a significant problem if you remove all safeguarding frameworks and stick these particular men or men displaying a pattern of behaviour similar to those who do escalate to murder into a women's prison without any question.

This needs to be recognised and acknowledged by authorities.

It's completely insane. How blind do you need to be to not see it?

The whole wiki is worth reading and reflecting on tbh. It's somewhat disturbing.

The "Fractured Identity Syndrome" (FIS) is a merging of Charles Cooley's "looking glass self" and Erving Goffman's "virtual" and "actual social identity" theories. The FIS suggests a social event, or series of events, during one's childhood or adolescence results in a fracturing of the personality of the serial killer. The term "fracture" is defined as a small breakage of the personality which is often not visible to the outside world and is only felt by the killer

From the Mirror article:

who now works for a charity that helped her become a woman, justified the treatment by saying: “The NHS wastes money helping people with ­cancer, often smokers, even though their condition is ­terminal and they are going to die, whereas I’ve got lots of years left.

This reads like science fiction. You couldn't make it up.

It's real and happening though. Violent men getting their own way at the expense and safety of women.

Violent men. Fuckers!

The problem is that the TRA ideology simply collapses like a house of cards when you consider things more carefully.

As a generic platitude of course we all want 'transwomen to live their true and honest selves'.

But we aren't talking about transwomen in general, we are talking about criminals, who as a starting point are dangerous, devious, and enjoy trying to test the limits of authority.

If we create an ideology where the starting point is 'believe transwomen', but where 'transwoman' is a term not something subject to any objective test, what we are really saying (in this context) is 'believe criminals'.

And why the fuck would you do that?

Canada needs Meghan Murphy so badly to speak out about exactly this sort of thing and.... She's been silenced on Twitter this all really is an awful dystopian war on women. All of it.

The entire ideology is just an open door for everyone who hates women to unleash their misogyny and be supported in it.

Surely surely Canada will see they've fucked up and things will go back to normal.

I don’t know why I’m shocked really but I am. Fucking outrageous.

OMG, truly appalling. But of course psychopaths will exploit any safeguarding loopholes they can. And we know TRA ideology creates safeguarding loopholes a plenty (although I'm still shocked about sending such criminals to places with mother and baby units, ffs).

Transsexuals are harmed by criminals exploiting safeguarding loopholes created by TRA ideology as much as women. I think it was Lisa M who said the backlash will be fierce.

Those women clapping along to Justin trudeau's pronouncement

How much of a brain dead turkey do you have to be to enthusiastically applaud such an outrageous statement as transwomen are just another subset of women and as such should be sent to women's prison?
I sure as heck would not want to share a prison cell with the person who held the microphone initially, they may be a very pleasant person in reality but I would not want to share a small, enclosed space with a man who now says he is a woman but retains all the characteristics of a male re size and strength and potentially also his male genitalia.

It is completely outrageousand just plain wrong and those handmaids in the video can get to fuck ..

Those women clapping along to Justin trudeau's pronouncement angry

How much of a brain dead turkey do you have to be to enthusiastically applaud such an outrageous statement as transwomen are just another subset of women and as such should be sent to women's prison?

Those women are good law abiding citizens who would never envisage any situation in which they might end up in jail. Going to jail isn't something that happens to people like them.

And that's the crucial thing in there.

They don't care about the harms done to women who break the law.

There is almost a detachment from the human rights of prisoners. Prisoners shouldn't have human rights.

Which is fundamentally illiberal in nature.

It has most in common with the authoritarian narrative of how terrorists shouldn't have human rights.

It's incredibly revealing how a section of society is viewed almost as collateral to the high minded ideal of 'can't we just all be nice?'. The answer is that humans are no always nice. And pretending this actively does harm to others by negligence or willful blindness. Either way its an act of complicity.

That’s a very interesting point made up thread. I wonder just how many trans women in female prisons are the vulnerable and exploited kind versus always lived as men and committed horribly violent acts against women and children. 🤔