Scary sex pest apparently being held in a woman's prison

[doedoe90303811]

This man identifies as Vicky (warning: horrifying photos of man in drag):

plus.google.com/collection/YVC-gB
plus.google.com/103781857131357608360

He was arrested after travelling to Scotland to meet a (fake) 14 year old girl.

www.facebook.com/WolfPackHuntersUK/videos/-jack-p-maidstone-12th-september-2018-/419969345200379/

He is on remand, and is apparently being held in Cornton Vale, a women's prison in Stirling.

[SlowlyShrinking]

Oh my god I’m not easily rattled but he is terrifying looking. The thought of being locked up with him is unbearable. I really hope that’s not true.

[SlowlyShrinking]

What can we do to try and stop this happening to women in prison??

[doedoe90303811]

I'm just thinking about all those 'sex work is work' fuckheads. Imagine having to deal with that. His twitter is @richstd, even more horrifying, with nudity.

[Voice0fReason]

OMG how can anyone treat him as a woman!

[LangCleg]

Is Cornton Vale the one they're closing because it's so vile and self harm is out of control? Can you imagine putting a sex offender into that already hideous environment?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS IN CHARGE?

[SlowlyShrinking]

A perverted piece of shit being locked up with women. I really hope there’s going to be a van coming to pick him up and take him to the nonce’s wing of the male prison, where he belongs. And I’m calling him a pervert for preying on underage girls, not for his sartorial choices, btw.

[BiologyMatters]

I really hope this isn't true.

[GulagMilkMonitor]

What in the what?
Do you have a source that confirms where this person is held?

[doedoe90303811]

There's no official confirmation

twitter.com/sargesalute/status/1041109042553344005

This is his Amazon account btw

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AF345JILTOUC5T7PCGCYD2FP37YQ/?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

[doedoe90303811]

AFAICS, according to Scottish and probably English principles, he belongs in a women's prison. His social media accounts demonstrate a history of living in the female gender.

The fact that he's a sex pest in neither here nor there, as I understand it with the rules as they stand, he does belong in a woman's prison.

[MIdgebabe]

Living as female in England does not mean you have to be treated as female in all Cicumstances, or indeed in any circumstance , where sex is a protected characteristic, unlike gender identity.

Even with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment ( formal process ) in England it would be allowed to treat the person as male rather than female, although then there would be a requirement to have a strong reason.

[Anlaf]

Anne Ruzylo has posted this - Anne is a prison officer I believe

Richard Grattage - uses the name Vicky Green currently residing in Cornton Vale prison for arranging to meet a 14 yr old girl for sex. Served 8 yrs previously for sexual assault of a 14 yr old girl, said he didn't rape her because he couldn't get an erection

twitter.com/sargesalute/status/1041065765435260928?s=19

[OldCrone]

His social media accounts demonstrate a history of living in the female gender.

How does someone 'live in the female gender'? Is this something to do with conforming to stereotypes?

[doedoe90303811]

Living as female in England does not mean you have to be treated as female in all Cicumstances, or indeed in any circumstance , where sex is a protected characteristic, unlike gender identity.

Hmm, no that's not correct. There is a transgender protocol for prisons, they follow that.

This is the English one:

www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/offenders/psipso/psi-2016/PSI-17-2016-PI-16-2016-AI-13-2016-The-Care-and-Management-of-Transgender-Offenders.docx

I can't be bothered to find the Scottish one, but I don't imagine for a moment it's less regressive, Scotland is always trying to out-woke England.

Even with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment ( formal process ) in England it would be allowed to treat the person as male rather than female, although then there would be a requirement to have a strong reason.

Well not under the prison protocol, under the prison protocol if you have a GRC or are even in the process of applying for one, then you have an unrefutable right to women's prison. Rights under the Equality Act etc. are essentially irrelevant, because there are a set of specific guidelines they follow for prisons.

[doedoe90303811]

How does someone 'live in the female gender'? Is this something to do with conforming to stereotypes?

This is from the English prison rules:

pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmew1EMXgAE0Om8.jpg

As you can see:

Presents in the gender - check
Change of name and appearance - hmm, check (at least partly)
Use of prosthetics - yep, definitely

The fact that he looks like something out of Nightmare on Elm Street is neither here nor there - you don't get deducted 'points' for being a horrific parody or a bad effort, as long as you are some vague pastiche of a woman, well into the female prison you go.

[BlackeyedSusan]

raping people is a male thing so he is living as a male sex predator.

[Viago]

His twitter account has been suspended.

[BlackeyedSusan]

It is shocking that someone who has been convicted previously of sexual assaults against females is put in a female prison. I hope that they are kept in isolation.

[BartholinsSister]

They'll rip him apart, surely?

[TerfedOff]

Thing is even if he doesn't actually sexually assault women whilst he's in there, to be a male intact pervert being locked in with vulnerable women, sharing showers etc .... Well it's not much of a punishment is it really? But for those women even to have to interact with the creep and have to call him by female pronouns whilst knowing exactly what he is.... It's a disgusting situation.

[deepwatersolo]

So, given said person could not be her authentic self, because of an erectile dysfunction, will the prison staff step in and help her become her authentic self by providing Viagra?

[doedoe90303811]

"His twitter account has been suspended."

He has a number:

@richardgrattage
@148Richard
@richardgrattag8
@Grattage148
@Grattage123
@Grattage992 (suspended)

From one he would appear to have been married.

[MIdgebabe]

I suspect the problem there is that the term transgender has gone from medically determined condition , where the law and generals approach of kindness is (perhaps) appropriate to a way of life and a movement , so the law is often being ignored or misinterpreted . Many people are totally ignorant of the differences.

[MrsBertBibby]

It is shocking that someone who has been convicted previously of sexual assaults against females is put in a female prison.

Female offenders against women and girls are put in women's prisons. I agree the likes of Karen West clearly should not be put in a women's prison, but you can't make women's prison free of sexual predators.

[littlbrowndog]

But men shouldn’t be put into women’s prisons