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H Brunskell-Evans - resigned from WEP

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PlectrumElectrum · 21/02/2018 00:24

Twitter comment from Heather -

Today @WEP_UK have reached the conclusion to their investigation. They say they recommend I do not continue in my role as Party Spokeswoman for violence against women and girls to take effect immediately. I will not appeal and I resign my membership #vawg

Nothing on WEP website or twitter - utterly spineless idiots.

I'm not a member, cancelled my membership after their disastrous web chats on here. So I've no stake in this. But can't help feel for Heather. Completely undeserved & illustrates just how absurd this whole trans ideology is when someone like Heather isn't the 'right sort' of advocate/expert on the subject of violence against women & girls, and the vacuous accusation of 'transphobia' takes precedence over her clear compassion on a subject that actually matters.

I saw Heather at a meeting in Glasgow & was really impressed by her considered care and expertise, not least because she was ill & still made the journey to come up and share her thoughts with us. She's worth 100 of those trans hypnotised eejits too busy fawning over the trans cult.

smh

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Ouchbirthhurted · 21/02/2018 00:28

Have they or she clarified why they reached that decision?

thebewilderness · 21/02/2018 00:34

The abusive males do not approve of women talking about male violence.

Onlynever · 21/02/2018 00:39

What's the point of this party? Are they being controlled by "transgender women" already? I see that that's what she has suggested.

PlectrumElectrum · 21/02/2018 00:42

Tried to find something from WEP on the decision, nothing on their website or twitter. Not checked FB. I'm not even interested in their reasoning now. They are just a ridiculous organisation who seem clueless on what the hell they're doing.

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MarSeeAh · 21/02/2018 00:43

Shocking, but sadly not unsurprising. She was an impressive speaker at the Glasgow meeting. Did she not say then that a number of people in key positions in the WEP were TIMs?

thebewilderness · 21/02/2018 01:17

TIMs took over most of the LGB organizations and began purging about five years ago. They have not had as rapid a success with the Feminist and the women's organizations, but they have gotten quite an assist from the government. Labour isn't the only org that is purging uppity women who ask questions and refuse to submit to male dominance.

TheButterflyOfTheStorms · 21/02/2018 01:19

Does she want to start the Fair Play For Women (Mumsnet chapter) party?

HelenaDove · 21/02/2018 01:22

Bloody hell.

Ouchbirthhurted · 21/02/2018 01:24

TheButterfly that is an interesting question. She has been brave enough to speak out and will have some publicity around that - could be a good platform to speak from?

Ouchbirthhurted · 21/02/2018 01:25

I think getting the facts and story out to voters would be more powerful politically than standing herself.

VaguelyAware · 21/02/2018 01:29

If there was a political party that had saving the NHS & recognising biological sex in addition to allowing legal protection to anyone who has or is in the process of gaining a GRC, I would vote for them.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/02/2018 07:24

Some background here:

www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk/thoughts/public-statement-to-the-womens-equality-party/


But as PPs have said no further info on why the WEP have effectively kicked her out

Patodp · 21/02/2018 07:45

The WEP was rejected by mumsnet feminists because we intuitively saw that it would become a Trans activists party.

From Itsallgoibgtobefine link below... confirms we were right.

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The Committee is now examining my public statements including my blogs, social media, and on-line forums. It is also assessing whether I have complied with the Volunteer Agreement which I signed at the beginning of my term of office. If the Committee concludes my views do promote prejudice, ‘any decision of the Executive Body shall be effective immediately but may be appealed to the Appeals Body, whose decision shall be final’ [1.]

At the same time, the Party is completely silent about the “conduct” of a fellow panellist on the Moral Maze, Jane Fae. Fae, a trans woman who transitioned to a feminine identity in middle-age, is a speaker for Mermaids (the charity that supports children to transition). She alleged that the prescription of hormone blockers to delay puberty in girls, or the injection of testosterone at the age of 16, is of no greater social or moral concern than prescribing the contraceptive pill.

There are complex psychological and social reasons why, in a society structured by gender and the sexualisation of girls and young women, there is an unprecedented upsurge of girls declaring they are ‘really’ boys. However, there is no credible science to back the narrative that gender ‘identity’ (rather than biological sex) is innate. Hormone blockers have serious consequences on the body, including the probability of infertility. A substantive number of medical practitioners are extremely worried about this practice (as well as the serious medical interventions that usually follow, such as surgical removal of breasts) but daren’t speak out for fear of accusations of transphobia.

Patodp · 21/02/2018 07:46

I hope the party collapses into ruin.

Giantmushroompizza · 21/02/2018 07:56

I was actually really excited when the WEP launched. I also hope it collapses now and is replaced by a party that actually stands for women. It’s not fit for purpose.

Amethyst975 · 21/02/2018 07:59

This must be very frustrating for Heather.

I'm currently reading 'Transgender Children and Young People', the book she co-edited and contributed to. It's an excellent resource for anyone concerned about transgenderism in kids (and beyond). Really, really recommend it.

NauticalDisaster · 21/02/2018 07:59

Unsurprising, WEP is not for women, it hasn't been since the beginning. I don't think WEP offer anything different from the other parties, they are insignificant.

GoodyMog · 21/02/2018 07:59

They've just been one disappointment after another haven't they?

rb67 · 21/02/2018 08:32

I watched the you tube of her talk at the Glasgow meeting. Really thoughtful and considered. Such a shame but shows how there really is no room for intelligent debate in the heads of these men and their concubines.

rowdywoman1 · 21/02/2018 08:38

Their recent meetings for the new leader only allowed 'pre moderated'' questions. The audience were reminded that they must only read out the words on their cards. Now this is for the leadership of a political party!

It's an example of the wholesale silencing of women that is happening by this totalitarian, oppressive right wing movement.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 21/02/2018 08:41

Brunskell-Evans is one of our most effective advocates against VAWG. I'm not surprised they're trying to shut her up Star

AttillaThePun · 21/02/2018 08:46

How many members do the WEP have now? How many candidates did they stand at the last election? (How many people have heard of them or take them seriously?)

The real kicker here is that they've spiked the guns of any women's equality focused party by being so comprehensively terrible at it.

If you start a new party with 'Women' in the title then someone's bound to ask about the WEP and no matter what you do or how calm and rational your reasoning it'll be feminist bunfight or the left is eating itself or jokes about The People's Front of Judea.

So disappointing.

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EmpressOfJurisfiction · 21/02/2018 08:49

I stopped thinking that the Women's Equality Party gave a fuck about women when they made it clear that violent males took priority. They're showing themselves to be a bunch of hypocrites. I hope they don't have the gall to come back to Mumsnet because I think that particular webchat might get half of us suspended.

And I used to like Sandi Toksvig, too. She's made jokes about lesbians not being into penis that do make it sound as if she's not entirely on-message though.

boatyardblues · 21/02/2018 08:50

You do start to wonder whether WEP should be referred for misselling under the Trades Description Act. Anyone know whether HBE coukd be persuaded to start a new party?

doctorcuntybollocks · 21/02/2018 08:52

You do start to wonder whether WEP should be referred for misselling under the Trades Description Act.

Perhaps their aim was to make women equal to livestock.

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