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Advice needed - being taken for an absolute mug.

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babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 21:25

Hi,

Typical 'I do too much and he's too lazy' kind of post.

Long story short I have been with my OH for 4 years now, but have recently moved in together jointly (only renting). I have a DD from a previous relationship, and it was just the two of us in our home before now (with him sleeping over occasionally - we had a long distance thing for a while). We decided to find a place together, me and DD moved in with my mum whilst we saved for a deposit etc.

He's the laziest bastard I've ever known in my life.

I knew this before we moved in together, but thought it could have been forgiven and worked upon. He's 27 and has lived with him mum up until now. He is terrible with money (seriously bad, we have split up before due to his lies about countless debts, and cutting me short for consecutive months with rent in the past etc). She did everything for him, the cooking, changing his bedding, washing his clothes etc. he is extremely messy too, would often leave crap lying around everywhere for his mum to pick up. I told him countless times not to expect that from me when we moved in properly (I'm generally very tidy and always on my feet), and of course he was like 'no babe, our home is going to be well clean'.

What an absolute pig sty our home is due to his mess. His shit is everywhere. His dirty clothes he just leaves all over the floor in the bedroom, on his side of the bed you cannot see the carpet. Shoes, crisp packets, empty water bottles, plastic bags with bits of shopping in he doesn't think to empty? We both work full time. Every weekend I sped most of it going over the living room, kitchen and bathroom making sure it is spotless. I cook close to every night but he never has the incentive to, never offers. We have a 'system' where if one cooks, the other washes up. I have told him so many times that I cant stand dirty plates in the sink with food on being left over night. Not only because its gross, but because if it is his turn to wash, he will leave it for me and i am ALWAYS the one to pick up the mess and wash the pots the next day, They literally will be sat there moulding until I give in and wash them. he knows how I'm important it is for me that he helps out with this, but about twice per week (usually after me scrubbing the kitchen and making sure its nice and clean) he will leave this pots for me. The amount of arguments we have had where he gets angry and refuses to do them because he thinks by him doing them 'i am getting my own way' is just absurd. I think its fair. If I am getting home and cooking every night after work (we both work full time), and he is sat there watching tv... then he leave his job to wash the pots for me in the morning... how is that fair on me? He doesn't see this logic and continues to do it. He leave a wet towel on my side of the bed every morning, even after continuously telling him can he kindly not do that. He says okay and then does it anyway...knowing that I cant just leave it and I end up picking after him, as well am my child, like i have a son! We moved in almost 3 months ago and wardrobes have not been built still because he's waiting for me to spend MY weekend doing it all and clearly sees it as my job. I miss the recycling day ONCE in three months and it still doesn't get taken out because he sees it as MY responsibility. I miss a bedding wash at the weekend (because I'm too busy catching up with three peoples washing) and it doesn't get done for another week, because he doesn't have the incentive to do it = MY responsibility... you get the gist.

Anyway, its gotten to the point now where I'm not getting any help during the week and I am compromising my time with my daughter because I'm having to sit her on the couch and scrub the house down. My OH doesn't really take any responsibility with my DD, which is fair enough as her dad has her half the week, but what he doesn't realise is that not only do I work full time, I am attending to her as well. School uniforms, school runs, tidying her bedroom, parties, bathing, cooking, taking her out at the weekends etc. I have this huge responsibility and he doesnt, but still he doesnt even think to help out more when it comes to the home. I have begged him, sat down with him weekly, I have cried, I have been so run down and tired as i feel I cant rest at the weekends with no help and he has always just said 'right' and 'ill do it tomorrow' and it NEVER gets done. On his days off he will purposely make an excuse to leave the house (he often goes back to his mums 45 mins away and stays there for a few hours) and then I come home and nothing has been done regarding the house and other bits and lo and behold he 'didn't have the time...'

I am planning on leaving him (not just because of his laziness, but he has been very emotionally manipulating and hurtful lately, and has continuously lied about money etc) but I feel I need to get my stuff together and plan more before I do. I have realised that marrying him and god forbid having another child will be a life sentence for me. In the mean time, if talking to him won't help, what do i do to get him to help out a bit more?!

We had a talk last night because i'd cleaned the bathroom at the weekend and I told him not to leave anything on the bathroom floor (to make matters worse on the cleaning front he got blazing drunk the night before at a wedding, knowing I had my DD on sunday and stayed in bed until 7pm). He leaves his boxers there every single morning for me topic up at night, its an ongoing battle. Last week I stopped doing it, and it got to three pairs of dirty boxers before i gave in. He told me he would Tonight, I came home and found he'd not put them on the bathroom floor, but just left them on top of the friggin landing instead!!! And there was a dirty bowl in the sink, again!

I thought, right if we expects me to do all these things, I just will not do them. he has got to the point where he obviously expects me to cook, so tonight I though right ill sit down with a glass of wine and expect him to cook instead. He came home at 7pm and asked really sheepish 'have you had some dinner yet?'

I said no, and continued drinking my wine. Then I told him I was going to bed to watch my own tv programme (he was probably half expecting me to go in the kitchen and ask what he fancied).

It took him until 8.50pm this evening to go 'do you want anything banging in the oven?'

I went 'oooh, actually yes...' I thought for a moment and he went really sharp 'come on hurry up I'm not messing about'.

Then he came up and went 'you need to come down in 20 mins to sort your tea out when they are cooked...'

I said 'oh, can you not just pop my burgers in some bread? and erm, some tomatoes? oh and a bit of ketchup please...?'

He went 'right' but he clearly wasnt happy.

i might just eat and leave the plate in the sink until tomorrow see if he likes it.

So sorry for the rant I'm just up to my ears with it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

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StopPOP · 12/09/2018 21:31

No advice as such as you've already decided to leave, thank goodness. What a man child. If you can bear, leave all his shit to him, especially the washing clothes (if you do his that is..). Only cook for you and DS.


When you leaving? At least you've (rightly) made the decision pre having kids/marrying/mortgage etc, phew!

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pog100 · 12/09/2018 21:32

You know what all the advice will be and it will be right. Leave him as soon as you possibly can.

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forumdonkey · 12/09/2018 21:32

I couldn't live like that, it sounds awful. The sooner you leave the better. Why on earth are you doing his washing? My DS's did their own washing while they were at school.

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babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 21:35

I don’t know yet. I don’t know whether to wait until after Xmas, or what I have no idea. It’s complicated I’ve had my tax credits stopped with moving together and with my DD’s bday coming up and Xmas, other loans I am still paying off etc I’m really not going to be able to afford everything on my own just yet.

There’s so much more going on that what I have highlighted I just can’t fit it in to one post. He’s very passive agressive, will never take the blame for anything and is just full of excuses. I’ll do it tomorrow and it will be right are his favourite ones.

There is so much physical and mental burden on me right not it was just so much easier as a single parent. So much easier.

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BluebellsareBlue · 12/09/2018 21:35

Leave ASAP, don't be me. It's years of misery and frustration. He will never ever change.

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MrsMozart · 12/09/2018 21:37

Exit stage left lass.

That's no way to live your life.

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redastherose · 12/09/2018 21:38

You are fundamentally incompatible. Until you can leave or get him to leave get some black bags and throw all of his clothes into them and dump them on his side of the bedroom (or in the shed/garage if you have one). Do not do any of his washing. Any rubbish goes in with the clothes, he can sort it since it doesn't matter to him. If he leaves his stuff lying around get some cardboard boxes and dump his stuff (whatever it is) in there and again dump out of your sight. Do not make any dinner for him, make yours and your daughters and when he whines tell him that when he washed up the dishes straight afterwards like he had agreed then you would have made dinner for everyone but since he refuses you will only make your own and your DD's. Wash your own dishes and put away. It may make him think about how he is behaving but if not hopefully he will bugger off back to his Mother and leave you in peace.

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ivykaty44 · 12/09/2018 21:39

Why did you last three months cooking?
See tonight it took him a couple of hours to work out food and oven etc

I bet tomorrow night it’ll be quicker - 3 months worth of cooking dinner so now sit back for a few week whilst he does the cooking

Oh and washing, does he know how to use the washing machine? I bet it’ll dawn on him soon how to use it

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babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 21:39

Is this really like, not normal?

I honestly though people were going to turn around and say that it was what men do in relationships and that we are naturally cleaner and we just have to deal with it etc. Should he be helping out more??

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IdaDown · 12/09/2018 21:41

You have an interesting man child / cocklodger hybrid.

Ride out the rest of the tenancy - then move.

No washing or cooking for him. Ask him to sleep elsewhere or move DD into your room and cocklodger into hers; if you can’t take on the rent by yourself.

To be honest, i’m surprised you lasted 4 years. Better late than never.

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ivykaty44 · 12/09/2018 21:42

No he shouldn’t be helping out more - who would he be helping out?

Stop doing stuff for him and let him fend for himself

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Babdoc · 12/09/2018 21:42

Leave his dirty clothes in a pile on his side of the bed. Only wash your own and DD’s.
Don’t cook for him, just for you and DD. If he puts a wet towel on your side of the bed, move it to his side.
If he leaves rubbish or dirty cups in the bedroom, again simply pile them all on his side of the room.
And get your money etc all sorted for splitting up with him as soon as possible. Send the useless manchild back to his mummy, where he belongs. He’s incapable of functioning as an adult in a relationship.
Finally, please have a long hard think about why you ever set the bar so low that you were prepared to accept this level of shit as a suitable partner. You deserve so much better, OP.

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Quartz2208 · 12/09/2018 21:44

Oh OP the saddest part is you think it could be normal

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BlaaBlaaBlaa · 12/09/2018 21:48

Not normal in the slightest. He's a lazy man child

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Pessismistic · 12/09/2018 21:53

What an absolute gobshite he’s spoilt and entitled and I would not leave dc to attend to the cleaning etc I get why you give in some men are like him and there are men the opposite who will help loads I was told that the more u nag a bloke the less likely he will do things. could he pay for a cleaner seeing as he’s the unwilling one? I certainly would carry on with moving out don’t tie yourself to him I pick up a lot of the time and it winds me up but oh will do cooking ironing dishes and I cut down my tidying up as it took longer than doing a shift at work and less time for family to mess up so feel for you but would get out whilst you can.

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RyderWhiteSwan · 12/09/2018 21:58

Is this really like, not normal?

I honestly though people were going to turn around and say that it was what men do in relationships and that we are naturally cleaner and we just have to deal with it etc. Should he be helping out more??

This is so sad to read in 2018.....no, it is NOT normal - far, far from normal.

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redastherose · 12/09/2018 21:59

Btw the wet towel on the bed is definitely deliberate. No one does that repeatedly without meaning to. He is being manipulative and disrespectful to you and you are right about the passive aggressiveness of his behaviour.

Also, to answer your question no he is not normal and women are not made to wait on men ffs. You and your dc deserve better than this waste of space.

As pp said until you can leave and re-establish yourself elsewhere treat this like a house-share not living with a partner.

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RabbitsAreTasty · 12/09/2018 22:02

Very very far from normal.

You can kick boxers and other clothes into a pile against the wall rather effectively you know.

Sometimes when everything is difficult DH and I agree to eat our main meals at lunch at work so that in the evening each person can quickly grab a sandwich or even horrors a bowl of cereal. All the children have hot dinners at school. How about you start making yourself a ham sandwich for tea, on your own and wash up your own bits then leave him to do his own.

If you have to move something like a towel or boxers or pots don't be efficient, don't do the jib he should have done, do something that is a bit of a pain for him, like wet towel happens to get tossed onto his pillow.

I would never in a million years be so passive aggressive with my DH but then again he wouldn't leave his boxers on the floor or his wet towel on my side of the bed and if he did and I complained he'd apologise and fix it. If he left the towel there by mistake I'd not mind picking it up and taking it to the bathroom. That's because he is a nice normal grown up man. One day if you get one of them you can have a lovely normal relationship. Most men are not dickheads.

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Ruddygreattiger2016 · 12/09/2018 22:03

Fgs move back with your mum whilst sorting out somewhere for you and dd, let this pig fester in his own shite. He is disgustingShock

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Prettyvase · 12/09/2018 22:06

He is stuck in the pre toddler stage where he is out of nappies but hasn't been trained to do anything else.

Blame his parent/s.

They should have taught him to put his boxers in the laundry basket at the same time he had moved on from using the potty.

Same with all the other life skills that he clearly wasn't taught to do.

His mum/ dad clearly treated him as a physically and mentally disadvantaged quadreplegic Emperor who is incapable of looking after himself so they did everything for him.

Pity him. Don't get angry. I bet your dd is more responsible and capable than he will ever be.

He is calculating and selfish because he knows you will do it ( eventually) so you are actually enabling him to be useless.

Any love I had for a man would have gone for good the moment he left dirty clothes lying about

My DH and my 12 year old ds are tidy and kind and considerate.

I think most men are.

I would say your experience op is so off the scale extreme I have never heard of such incompetence and irresponsibility from a male!

MN makes fascinating reading but the women who put up with this behaviour have themselves to blame for turning a blind eye or tolerating it in the first place!

How can any woman willingly DTD with a man who is barely out of nappies?!

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Easynow · 12/09/2018 22:07

Hell no. Normal is being happy. You can do this.

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Verbena87 · 12/09/2018 22:08

When he leaves his stuff on the floor, just throw it away. Seriously. Bin.

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twominfromthebeach · 12/09/2018 22:08

He's a waste of time. He wouldn't be able to see that he's in the wrong, never will, GTFO asap :)

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subspace · 12/09/2018 22:10

Eff that for a game of soldiers. No it's not normal. And it wouldn't be for him, if he hadn't moved straight from his stupid mum's to love with another woman. He needs about 5 -10 years to grow up and you need to LTB. Flowers

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Singlenotsingle · 12/09/2018 22:11

LTB and the longer you leave it, the harder it will be!

(PS. You don't know MNers very well, do you?)

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