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Advice needed - being taken for an absolute mug.

229 replies

babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 21:25

Hi,

Typical 'I do too much and he's too lazy' kind of post.

Long story short I have been with my OH for 4 years now, but have recently moved in together jointly (only renting). I have a DD from a previous relationship, and it was just the two of us in our home before now (with him sleeping over occasionally - we had a long distance thing for a while). We decided to find a place together, me and DD moved in with my mum whilst we saved for a deposit etc.

He's the laziest bastard I've ever known in my life.

I knew this before we moved in together, but thought it could have been forgiven and worked upon. He's 27 and has lived with him mum up until now. He is terrible with money (seriously bad, we have split up before due to his lies about countless debts, and cutting me short for consecutive months with rent in the past etc). She did everything for him, the cooking, changing his bedding, washing his clothes etc. he is extremely messy too, would often leave crap lying around everywhere for his mum to pick up. I told him countless times not to expect that from me when we moved in properly (I'm generally very tidy and always on my feet), and of course he was like 'no babe, our home is going to be well clean'.

What an absolute pig sty our home is due to his mess. His shit is everywhere. His dirty clothes he just leaves all over the floor in the bedroom, on his side of the bed you cannot see the carpet. Shoes, crisp packets, empty water bottles, plastic bags with bits of shopping in he doesn't think to empty? We both work full time. Every weekend I sped most of it going over the living room, kitchen and bathroom making sure it is spotless. I cook close to every night but he never has the incentive to, never offers. We have a 'system' where if one cooks, the other washes up. I have told him so many times that I cant stand dirty plates in the sink with food on being left over night. Not only because its gross, but because if it is his turn to wash, he will leave it for me and i am ALWAYS the one to pick up the mess and wash the pots the next day, They literally will be sat there moulding until I give in and wash them. he knows how I'm important it is for me that he helps out with this, but about twice per week (usually after me scrubbing the kitchen and making sure its nice and clean) he will leave this pots for me. The amount of arguments we have had where he gets angry and refuses to do them because he thinks by him doing them 'i am getting my own way' is just absurd. I think its fair. If I am getting home and cooking every night after work (we both work full time), and he is sat there watching tv... then he leave his job to wash the pots for me in the morning... how is that fair on me? He doesn't see this logic and continues to do it. He leave a wet towel on my side of the bed every morning, even after continuously telling him can he kindly not do that. He says okay and then does it anyway...knowing that I cant just leave it and I end up picking after him, as well am my child, like i have a son! We moved in almost 3 months ago and wardrobes have not been built still because he's waiting for me to spend MY weekend doing it all and clearly sees it as my job. I miss the recycling day ONCE in three months and it still doesn't get taken out because he sees it as MY responsibility. I miss a bedding wash at the weekend (because I'm too busy catching up with three peoples washing) and it doesn't get done for another week, because he doesn't have the incentive to do it = MY responsibility... you get the gist.

Anyway, its gotten to the point now where I'm not getting any help during the week and I am compromising my time with my daughter because I'm having to sit her on the couch and scrub the house down. My OH doesn't really take any responsibility with my DD, which is fair enough as her dad has her half the week, but what he doesn't realise is that not only do I work full time, I am attending to her as well. School uniforms, school runs, tidying her bedroom, parties, bathing, cooking, taking her out at the weekends etc. I have this huge responsibility and he doesnt, but still he doesnt even think to help out more when it comes to the home. I have begged him, sat down with him weekly, I have cried, I have been so run down and tired as i feel I cant rest at the weekends with no help and he has always just said 'right' and 'ill do it tomorrow' and it NEVER gets done. On his days off he will purposely make an excuse to leave the house (he often goes back to his mums 45 mins away and stays there for a few hours) and then I come home and nothing has been done regarding the house and other bits and lo and behold he 'didn't have the time...'

I am planning on leaving him (not just because of his laziness, but he has been very emotionally manipulating and hurtful lately, and has continuously lied about money etc) but I feel I need to get my stuff together and plan more before I do. I have realised that marrying him and god forbid having another child will be a life sentence for me. In the mean time, if talking to him won't help, what do i do to get him to help out a bit more?!

We had a talk last night because i'd cleaned the bathroom at the weekend and I told him not to leave anything on the bathroom floor (to make matters worse on the cleaning front he got blazing drunk the night before at a wedding, knowing I had my DD on sunday and stayed in bed until 7pm). He leaves his boxers there every single morning for me topic up at night, its an ongoing battle. Last week I stopped doing it, and it got to three pairs of dirty boxers before i gave in. He told me he would Tonight, I came home and found he'd not put them on the bathroom floor, but just left them on top of the friggin landing instead!!! And there was a dirty bowl in the sink, again!

I thought, right if we expects me to do all these things, I just will not do them. he has got to the point where he obviously expects me to cook, so tonight I though right ill sit down with a glass of wine and expect him to cook instead. He came home at 7pm and asked really sheepish 'have you had some dinner yet?'

I said no, and continued drinking my wine. Then I told him I was going to bed to watch my own tv programme (he was probably half expecting me to go in the kitchen and ask what he fancied).

It took him until 8.50pm this evening to go 'do you want anything banging in the oven?'

I went 'oooh, actually yes...' I thought for a moment and he went really sharp 'come on hurry up I'm not messing about'.

Then he came up and went 'you need to come down in 20 mins to sort your tea out when they are cooked...'

I said 'oh, can you not just pop my burgers in some bread? and erm, some tomatoes? oh and a bit of ketchup please...?'

He went 'right' but he clearly wasnt happy.

i might just eat and leave the plate in the sink until tomorrow see if he likes it.

So sorry for the rant I'm just up to my ears with it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

OP posts:
ArtemisWeatherwax · 12/09/2018 22:11

Can you really last until after Christmas living with this utter cockscramble of a fish slice? Can't you bin him off any sooner?

JungWan · 12/09/2018 22:12

I'D Send him back to his Mum's.

A tidy house sounds better than this level of mess, frustration and resentment.

He's not your daughter's father so you can just admit that you made a mistake moving in with him. Allow yourself a mistake.

Disfordarkchocolate · 12/09/2018 22:13

Why don't you just go back to your Mum's? This is not something your daughter should be living with.

trojanpony · 12/09/2018 22:13

I knew this before we moved in together

I got to this sentence and knew the rest would be long list of what an arsehole this guy is.

Fucking leave him. Or better yet kick him out.
What kind of an example are setting for your daughter?

Put on your big girl pants and end this - he is a man child.

RabbitsAreTasty · 12/09/2018 22:13

If he's so bloody awful with money is it actually going to be financially better for you to stay until after Christmas? How long before you end up paying all the bills and his share of the rent and buying all the food while he pressures you to take debt in your name because he has bad credit.

forumdonkey · 12/09/2018 22:16

OP if you don't wash his clothes, what do you think he will do?

Failingat40 · 12/09/2018 22:20

"Need advice-being taken for an absolute mug"

No advice needed here...you are very switched on to what he's doing. You do don't need anyone else's permission to leave a bad relationship. Do it.

He's stealing precious time away from you and your daughter.

Leave. Now. Fuck the debts, life's too short for putting up with this crap. Oh, and don't shag him. Grin

NameChanger22 · 12/09/2018 22:25

If you do shag him, make it 100% certain you won't get pregnant. A baby won't fix this idiot.

Cawfee · 12/09/2018 22:31

He’s disgusting and no it’s not normal

MaryDollNesbitt · 12/09/2018 22:36

  1. Get black bin bag.
  1. Flap black bin bag open.
  1. Pick up his shit that is just 'lying around'.
  1. Put his shit in said black bin bag.
  1. Tie up black bin bag.
  1. Place black bin bag in the outside bin.

Repeat steps 1-6 until the lazy article gets the fucking message Angry

Stop cooking for him. Stop cleaning up after him. Stop doing his laundry. Stop doing his dishes. Just stop.

Place his wet towel beneath the fucking duvet on his side of the bed and see how much he appreciates diving into a wet bed at night. Do this every time he fails to hang it up.

If you find any dirty boxers lying on the bathroom floor, open the bathroom window and throw them out of it, preferably onto a thorny bush. Do this every time he fails to place his dirty boxers in the laundry hamper.

As far as the housework goes, keep tackling the 'communal' areas both you and your DD use (do this for DD's benefit while you remain living there), but just throw out anything he leaves lying around. Cook for yourself and DD, not for him. If there are dishes, just wash the ones you used. If there is laundry, just do yours and DD's. You see where I'm going with this.

Above all else, for the love of fuck, make sure you do a trial run before moving in with somebody new in the future. It will save you an awful lot of energy and upset if you realize (before committing yourself) that you don't actually want to live with them on account of them being a filthy little pig.

Ellisandra · 12/09/2018 22:37

Just move back in with your mum, reapply for tax credits and consider your share of the rent for the remainder of the tenancy a small price to pay for being rid of him.

Ellisandra · 12/09/2018 22:39

Please god you don’t need the (good) advice above about contraception - because surely you’re not having sex with this pig?

MistressDeeCee · 12/09/2018 22:42

Not even if his dick was made of diamonds and he shat chocolate, could I shag an utter slob like that. He needs to be back with dear mumsy post haste.

LannieDuck · 12/09/2018 22:47

Just leave. I don't know how old your DD is, but I can't imagine it's much fun living in the house atm. The best xmas present would probably be a happy Mum.

Just cook for yourself and DD. Don't wash his clothes - throw anything that's left lying around (clothes, damp towels etc) into a big pile on his side of the bedroom (or whereever) and leave it. If he runs out of clean boxers, that's his look out.

subspace · 12/09/2018 22:49

cockscramble of a fish slice

This is why I fucking love mumsnet Grin

I'd like to take a moment to go back to the horror that is he won't do the washing up a fair number of times in the week EVER because that would be letting you win.Hmm He is literally training you to be his replacement mother/stepford wife. Fuck that shit. And certainly as others have said, don't fuck the manchild unless it's up the bum with a toilet brush scrubby end first

MistressDeeCee · 12/09/2018 22:51

DTD whilst his 3 days worth of skidmark boxers are nicely festering on floor directly next to bed..it surely can't be.

Waiting till after Christmas is sentencing yourself to more purgatory. Does your house smell😭. Just get rid - you're not married don't own a home together what's the wait for?Mumsy will welcome him back with open arms.

Or maybe she did cartwheels of delight when he unpeeled himself from her house and left, meaning she was less knackered via not having to baby him.

Whatever the case - living with nastiness like this is beyond the pale. Get rid now is best.

babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 22:53

You’re bloody brutal you lot Grin

I haven’t been this cheered up since I first started stressing about it!

I have eaten my undercooked tea that he kindly warmed up in the oven for me and I’ve left my plate in the sink (his bowl is still there from last night too let’s see how this goes). First time in years I have left pots I’m going to be anxious about it all night now!!

We found a few fleas on my cat as well so I brought home some flea stuff yesterday. Been walking him he needs to move his crap off the bedroom floor so I can spray the carpets. He came in tonight and was like ‘we need to spray the house!’ And justs looked at me blankly (as in why haven’t I done it). Anyway he’s still not moved his stuff so I sprayed the film house and just sprayed over it all. He was lounged on the couch so I left the couch. I was going up to bed and I said ‘when you are done can you give that couch a spray.’

He went ‘what, now?’

I said ‘no whenever you are done.’

And he went ‘but... I’m going to bed now...’

I told him to just spray the damn couch.

I know it’s a sad state of affairs how it has gotten this bad but he always plays mind games and turns it around on me like I’m the nagging one and he’s too tired from work and I should be more understanding.

I’m only just starting to really open my eyes up about it all to be honest. Everyone who’s said it’s practocally my own making you are totally right.

I can hear him downstairs I think he’s on to me because he’s washing up hahahaha

OP posts:
babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 22:59

I know he is training me isn’t he. Fuckwit.

There’s a lot of other things going on at the moment and I don’t want to make it worse for myself. I need to find my bearings first before I tell him I’m done with it all.

You know I have complained to my mum so many times and even said bits to his mum and they have just made an excuse ‘that’s what they are like’ and ‘oh yeah maybe you are just better than it than he is.’ That sort of messing mentality.

I remember I was I’ll a few week back and I had a full Sunday to myself on the couch with my films and snotty tissues. He came home, pulled the washing out of the machine that I had put in anyway and he went ‘see... it’s ME who’s doing everything today...’

Hmm Wine Wine Wine

OP posts:
subspace · 12/09/2018 23:15

when you are done can you give that couch a spray.’
He went ‘what, now?’
I said ‘no whenever you are done.’
And he went ‘but... I’m going to bed now.

Fucking hell. What a limp piece of meat he is.

puzzledlady · 12/09/2018 23:22

Sonyou will leave him - but just not right away? Sorry I’m confused, because yuh said you decided to leave him, but then in a later update said you weren’t sure - anyway, I think he sounds awful. I would go asap. Good luck OP.

findingmywaytoday · 13/09/2018 00:18

"Is this really like, not normal?"

No it really isn't. He may improve temporarily, but frankly his behaviour to date is telling you you're insignificant and he doesn't care.

Prettyvase · 13/09/2018 00:33

How can you DTD with your toddler????

Women like you op amaze me.

You and your mum must have male amoeba as role models in your life.

For your daughter's sake don't bring another bad role model in her life ever again.

mayhew · 13/09/2018 00:50

1.not normal
2.return to mother

  1. Note to self; raise expectations of men
  2. Share your bedroom with your daughter and get a lodger
timeisnotaline · 13/09/2018 01:03

Till CHRISTMAS? You can’t live there till bloody Christmas!

Changedname3456 · 13/09/2018 06:00

This sounds a lot like my young adult stepson who unfortunately still lives at home with us but is EXACTLY like this.

My partner (his mum) has given up (which pisses me off no end) so he keeps doing it. Despite seeing what he’s like now, his GF still wants to get a place with him! Then again, she’s just as bad.

And a big “no” to this being normal too. It’s just lazy, entitled behaviour. I cook, hoover, change beds, do laundry, clean the loo, used to change nappies back in the day, etc etc and don’t need to be asked or nagged to do it. I’m hoping my DDs will see the example and not accept anything less in later life.

You need to get rid of this guy, honestly, and I think PP are right to say don’t wait for Christmas. He’s definitely training you and won’t change in the long run.