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Advice needed - being taken for an absolute mug.

229 replies

babygoose48 · 12/09/2018 21:25

Hi,

Typical 'I do too much and he's too lazy' kind of post.

Long story short I have been with my OH for 4 years now, but have recently moved in together jointly (only renting). I have a DD from a previous relationship, and it was just the two of us in our home before now (with him sleeping over occasionally - we had a long distance thing for a while). We decided to find a place together, me and DD moved in with my mum whilst we saved for a deposit etc.

He's the laziest bastard I've ever known in my life.

I knew this before we moved in together, but thought it could have been forgiven and worked upon. He's 27 and has lived with him mum up until now. He is terrible with money (seriously bad, we have split up before due to his lies about countless debts, and cutting me short for consecutive months with rent in the past etc). She did everything for him, the cooking, changing his bedding, washing his clothes etc. he is extremely messy too, would often leave crap lying around everywhere for his mum to pick up. I told him countless times not to expect that from me when we moved in properly (I'm generally very tidy and always on my feet), and of course he was like 'no babe, our home is going to be well clean'.

What an absolute pig sty our home is due to his mess. His shit is everywhere. His dirty clothes he just leaves all over the floor in the bedroom, on his side of the bed you cannot see the carpet. Shoes, crisp packets, empty water bottles, plastic bags with bits of shopping in he doesn't think to empty? We both work full time. Every weekend I sped most of it going over the living room, kitchen and bathroom making sure it is spotless. I cook close to every night but he never has the incentive to, never offers. We have a 'system' where if one cooks, the other washes up. I have told him so many times that I cant stand dirty plates in the sink with food on being left over night. Not only because its gross, but because if it is his turn to wash, he will leave it for me and i am ALWAYS the one to pick up the mess and wash the pots the next day, They literally will be sat there moulding until I give in and wash them. he knows how I'm important it is for me that he helps out with this, but about twice per week (usually after me scrubbing the kitchen and making sure its nice and clean) he will leave this pots for me. The amount of arguments we have had where he gets angry and refuses to do them because he thinks by him doing them 'i am getting my own way' is just absurd. I think its fair. If I am getting home and cooking every night after work (we both work full time), and he is sat there watching tv... then he leave his job to wash the pots for me in the morning... how is that fair on me? He doesn't see this logic and continues to do it. He leave a wet towel on my side of the bed every morning, even after continuously telling him can he kindly not do that. He says okay and then does it anyway...knowing that I cant just leave it and I end up picking after him, as well am my child, like i have a son! We moved in almost 3 months ago and wardrobes have not been built still because he's waiting for me to spend MY weekend doing it all and clearly sees it as my job. I miss the recycling day ONCE in three months and it still doesn't get taken out because he sees it as MY responsibility. I miss a bedding wash at the weekend (because I'm too busy catching up with three peoples washing) and it doesn't get done for another week, because he doesn't have the incentive to do it = MY responsibility... you get the gist.

Anyway, its gotten to the point now where I'm not getting any help during the week and I am compromising my time with my daughter because I'm having to sit her on the couch and scrub the house down. My OH doesn't really take any responsibility with my DD, which is fair enough as her dad has her half the week, but what he doesn't realise is that not only do I work full time, I am attending to her as well. School uniforms, school runs, tidying her bedroom, parties, bathing, cooking, taking her out at the weekends etc. I have this huge responsibility and he doesnt, but still he doesnt even think to help out more when it comes to the home. I have begged him, sat down with him weekly, I have cried, I have been so run down and tired as i feel I cant rest at the weekends with no help and he has always just said 'right' and 'ill do it tomorrow' and it NEVER gets done. On his days off he will purposely make an excuse to leave the house (he often goes back to his mums 45 mins away and stays there for a few hours) and then I come home and nothing has been done regarding the house and other bits and lo and behold he 'didn't have the time...'

I am planning on leaving him (not just because of his laziness, but he has been very emotionally manipulating and hurtful lately, and has continuously lied about money etc) but I feel I need to get my stuff together and plan more before I do. I have realised that marrying him and god forbid having another child will be a life sentence for me. In the mean time, if talking to him won't help, what do i do to get him to help out a bit more?!

We had a talk last night because i'd cleaned the bathroom at the weekend and I told him not to leave anything on the bathroom floor (to make matters worse on the cleaning front he got blazing drunk the night before at a wedding, knowing I had my DD on sunday and stayed in bed until 7pm). He leaves his boxers there every single morning for me topic up at night, its an ongoing battle. Last week I stopped doing it, and it got to three pairs of dirty boxers before i gave in. He told me he would Tonight, I came home and found he'd not put them on the bathroom floor, but just left them on top of the friggin landing instead!!! And there was a dirty bowl in the sink, again!

I thought, right if we expects me to do all these things, I just will not do them. he has got to the point where he obviously expects me to cook, so tonight I though right ill sit down with a glass of wine and expect him to cook instead. He came home at 7pm and asked really sheepish 'have you had some dinner yet?'

I said no, and continued drinking my wine. Then I told him I was going to bed to watch my own tv programme (he was probably half expecting me to go in the kitchen and ask what he fancied).

It took him until 8.50pm this evening to go 'do you want anything banging in the oven?'

I went 'oooh, actually yes...' I thought for a moment and he went really sharp 'come on hurry up I'm not messing about'.

Then he came up and went 'you need to come down in 20 mins to sort your tea out when they are cooked...'

I said 'oh, can you not just pop my burgers in some bread? and erm, some tomatoes? oh and a bit of ketchup please...?'

He went 'right' but he clearly wasnt happy.

i might just eat and leave the plate in the sink until tomorrow see if he likes it.

So sorry for the rant I'm just up to my ears with it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

OP posts:
BirthdayKake · 13/09/2018 06:19

I THINK you're with my ex husband. If he's working now please tell the Child Maintenance Service!

Seriously though, you will be 1000 times better off without him. I know I am.

B00kworm86 · 13/09/2018 06:31

This is like reading something written about my exH! Get out OP!

PintOfMineralWater · 13/09/2018 06:43

"‘that’s what they are like’ and ‘oh yeah maybe you are just better than it than he is.’"

It's NOT what "they" are like. Also it's not difficult to be good at cleaning. Washing pots isn't the remit of a chosen few masters.

Imagine how much more orderly your life will be without him. By the sound of it, toddlers make less mess than this.

Robin2323 · 13/09/2018 06:51

What is a hard working love like you fling with a 'slob' like this. ???
I would have lasted a week tops.
My husband and all 4 kids (all grown up and left home now )
Can hoover , iron , dust , clean toilets, shop for groceries, cook , wash pots.
All were taught at an early age.
Now was dad from the 50's couldn't. BUT when mum died he soon leant !
But he was tidy , kind and considerate. Put wet towels over the bath side etc
Hit the laundry basket with his clothes.
He's s pig.
And your mums comments are not helpful.

KERALA1 · 13/09/2018 06:59

Ewww. Not normal. Dh does jobs as we go along just like a normal human and he has a BIG job. He's hanging up wet laundry as I type. Now retired my dad does all the housework my mum the food and cooking. Utterly depressing that being female renders you the fucking servant I don't think so!

Plus terribly damaging template for your dd let that spur you on

TeacupTattoo · 13/09/2018 07:32

Oh lovely, this isn't normal in a respectful, loving relationship!
I cook usually as husband can't but he was taught by his Dad you must always wash up if somebody has cooked for you, and when I'm tired he can always do pizza/burgers/oven stuff and will do happily. We both clean, at the minute he does more laundry as I'm busy with baby but I iron. His underpants go in the laundry basket by the bed! He changes nappies, baths kids, dresses them, takes them out on his own, gardens, cleans the fire out, mops floors AND disinfects them without me reminding. Oh, and until he met me at 40 he always was a lodger so only dealt with his bedroom. It's called being a grown-up!!!
The man you live with is pathetic. I would say to get out as quickly as you possibly can as this is not good for you or your wee one...can you go stay with family? I'd much rather my daughter came home for a while than lived like you are!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2018 07:41

babygoose

What did you learn about relationships when growing up?. Why is your relationship bar so low that you have at all tolerated this from him to date?. Those two questions need your serious consideration here.

This current bloke is like this because his mother has run around and otherwise cleaned up after him his whole life. She never did him any favours in doing that and you have gone onto do the same whilst he expects to be waited on. Please for the love of all that is good make your exit from this so called relationship asap and work on you further through counselling before you at all embark on another relationship. Love your own self for a change.

babygoose48 · 13/09/2018 07:42

I don’t think he’s ever cleaned a loo his life, he certainly hasn’t cleaned ours.

I’m going to leave my wet towel on his side of the bed this morning.

Just came downstairs after clearly telling him to keep the kitchen the way it is, there’s still dirty glasses in the sink, he’s left the oven trays on the tops thrown the tea towels on the top of there’s his empty bottle of beer on the top from lasts night. Takes two seconds to put these away at the end of the night.

Went in the living room and hey look here’s his dirty socks from the night before left at the side of the couch.

If I could take a picture of the state of the bedroom and the mess he’s made I would guys...

I think this weekend I’m going to go against all my urges and just not clean (besides washing mine and Dds clothes). He can use his day off to do it rather than mine. We have a christening Sunday so I bet he makes an excuse on his other day off and then when Sunday comes around he’ll use the christening as ‘he didn’t have anytime’.

You know what the funny thing is? It’s not his actual slobiness that’s made the final decision in me to get rid. It’s his passive aggressive behaviour and his disrespectful attitude.

It took me about two weeks of putting his clothes away for him when we first moved in to stop doing it all together when he had at me for ‘balling his socks up the wrong way.’

!!!!!!

I leave his stuff on the stairs or on the bed now. Saying that, when I had a mad teary rant at him the last time he told me to leave all his work shirts on the stairs (about ten of them) and he offered to iron them and take them up. They were on the stairs this big pile of shirts for TEN DAYS and I went on refusing to touch them until I finally told him to shift them because my mum was coming round to look after DD. He will say he will do things and then he just doesn’t. And if I ask him a second time he tells me I’m nagging and he’ll have a horrible attitude ‘I told you i’ll Do it!!’ Angry

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2018 07:43

I also think that your mother's comments have not been at all helpful either.

Do not wait for Christmas before you get rid of him; strike whilst the iron is hot now.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2018 07:46

Its no atmosphere for your child to be growing up in either, it really is not. Your energies would be far better employed on making your exit from this crap relationship asap rather than dumping wet towels on the bed.

KERALA1 · 13/09/2018 07:46

You would have to be extremely wealthy to afford the level of service you provide op. And you do it for free. Marvellous for him isn't it?! Don't wait for Christmas Halloween maybe

babygoose48 · 13/09/2018 07:47

I really don’t know where I let slip Attila. I was in a controlling abusive relationship before him for years but I was very young when I got with him so I just didn’t know better. Then when I left with DD Very young, I was on my own for a bit and loved it. When this one came in to my life I was very hard and wouldn’t take any shit at all. Even his mum jokes that I was going to ‘put him in his place’ (in a complimentary way, and he agreed with her. I think after a while I thought I was being too hard on him with things as I’m quite orderly (and I can be very uptight about rules etc).

He’s just got to the point where he doesn’t care. He’s used to being this way at his mums so it’s like he resents me for stopping him from doing what he wants to do and relaxing after work. He works really hard and has a lot of stress on him but he needs to realise that life doesn’t stop and it takes work to run a home!!!

OP posts:
ZenNudist · 13/09/2018 07:49

3.5 more months of this would be a very toxic environment for your dd. Given that you have a reasonable alternative id move to your mums.

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 13/09/2018 07:55

What is the work and money situation?

forget about all the other shit, you need to sort yourself out now.

Did you pay to the deposit, is it your name on the rental agreement, how long until the agreement ends, is it a 6 month agreement? Do you work, have you got savings? Can you move back to your mums and find somewhere for you both to live in the meantime?

Or give him an ultimatum; either he goes or you do. No debate.

Bluntness100 · 13/09/2018 08:02

Jeez, dirty bastard. Get out. Just tell him it's over, for your own mental health, but also for your child. She doesn't need to be living in this environment, with two adults bickering like this.

Just tell him he's a dirty bastard with a shit attitude and he can fuck off back to his mums.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2018 08:07

babygoose

If you have not already done so I would seriously consider enrolling yourself onto the Freedom Programme run by Womens Aid. This is for those who have been in abusive relationships. You basically went from one abusive relationship into this one which is also abusive in nature. Your boundaries, too low to begin with, were further harmed by the abusive relationship so when this current chancer entered your life it was easy for him to go onto exploit you. Some men like tough (well on the surface anyway) women to take down to their base level because they see it as a further challenge. He will continue to do his bit to further destroy you from the inside out so long as you remain with him. I wonder too if you saw him as a project to improve?.

No-one I think ever bothered to show you what a mutually respectful relationship is like and you still do not know. The relationship you are currently in is not at all healthy either and its a poor relationship model to be showing your DD.

If you are not prepared to act on an ultimatum by following it through to the letter do not make one. Such things can only be issued once because they lose all their power otherwise.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/09/2018 08:09

babygoose

Love your own self for a change and work on unlearning all the crap you have learnt about relationships along the way. Your DD will thank you for doing that.

ResistanceIsNecessary · 13/09/2018 08:18

Not normal at all. DH does all of the ironing (I hate dong it) and we split cleaning between us. I do most of the cooking in the week but he does all meals at the weekend. If I go away to visit my parents for a few days, he'll do all of the housework and laundry so that the place is tidy when I get home.

So no, not normal at all.

ilovewelshrarebit123 · 13/09/2018 08:25

He's not going to change as he doesn't want to. You're just getting more and more stressed and upset and he doesn't give a hoot.

There will never be a suitable time to leave, you'll always find something else crops up so you just needs to do it.

You'll get tax credits etc to help, you cannot last until after Xmas with this man child!

Nicknamesalltaken · 13/09/2018 08:29

If he left could you get any help from benefits to cover his share of the rent? Entitledto.com might be useful.

Or, leave him to it and go back to your mum’s. Whats your tenancy terms? Is there a break clause?

You sound pretty switched on in some ways, but naive in others.

You can’t change anyone. Find someone who is the right fit or be happy on your own. There is no middle ground here.

And for the love of God, double up on your contraception.

notapizzaeater · 13/09/2018 08:37

You need to get rid ASAP, not wait till Xmas.

Joysmum · 13/09/2018 08:54

Personally I would officially seperate despite still living together so you can open a new claim. I’d also give notice now on the house for when the 6 months tenancy is up. Be prepared as he’ll not do anything to get the deposit back and that’ll all be down to you too.

CloudCaptain · 13/09/2018 09:15

I could not live with this disgusting piece of shit for one week let alone for months.
Don't bother testing him by leaving the dishes. He will just leave them to moulder. He doesn't care about it and you will break before he does.
Get black bin bags and pile all his clothes and rubbish into them. Including any expensive gadgets. Leave outside the front door and tell him to move out back to his mum. Is he paying rent and bills on time if he has massive debts?
Why live with this. He is hard work for you. You have a much easier life on you own (with dd), than with all this extra work.

caffelatte100 · 13/09/2018 09:21

I echo what everyone else says. This is so far from normal, I didn't even need to read the end of your initial post!!!
This man is not nice, nor a catch on any level, no redeeming features at all and he is not making you happy. I think he's abusive and will not change. You will not have a good life with him. I would not waste a second more on this man child. Yuk, he sounds disgusting.
Finish this relationship today, he neither cares nor respects you.

TheStoic · 13/09/2018 09:32

Are you afraid you’ll break his heart if you end it?

You won’t. He’ll just go back to his mum’s, and she’ll pick up where you left off.