to ask why you wouldn’t sign the petition?

[CircleSquareCircleSquare]

The petition set up by Amy Desir (one of the women who self identified as a man to attend a men only swim session) is asking the government to consult women on privacy and dignity that could be removed or impacted by proposed changes to the gender recognition act.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

The petition is merely asking for debate - doesn’t it come to something when women have to petition the government to have to ask to debate their safety?

Most gender critical feminists recognise trans human rights but we don’t want their identity and wishes to be placed above our safety.
I posted on MN recently about my experience of living in a domestic violence refuge as a child and now I was terrified of men, a male bodied person presenting as a female in that safe space would have terrified me and impacted my PTSD more than the other experiences already have.

If you haven’t signed it why not? Please reconsider, if only so both sides can be heard. Of course signing isn’t mandatory and I’m not angry but I would be interested in hearing more.

If you would like to sign it, you can find it here
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118 - your details are kept private. Please consider sharing.

[CircleSquareCircleSquare]

Here is the clicky link
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

[SpringHen]

Because it would not go down well with my employer Im too scared to be an out TERF which Im ashamed of, but I gotta pay my bills....

[dinosaursandtea]

Because I genuinely think the whole thing is transphobic as fuck, whether you say it is or not.

[glenthebattleostrich]

dinosaurs, why is debating the impact on women transphobic? Or are you just a misogynistic communist who doesn't believe in any kind of debate?

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SpringHen

I get that, it’s why I can’t be on social media with these views. I do believe the government petition site is pretty safe.

Dinosaur
It’s not surprise I don’t share that view. I don’t see how a debate about safety and the abuses of proposed acts could be deemed transphobic. It’s asking to be consulted.

[Lovesagin]

Facts and biology are like soooooooo transphobic n stuff

[SpringHen]

Dinosaurs the petition is about consulting women on changes that affect women

If you are a woman who DOES want TIMs to use womens spaces then this would include your views too.

Its simply asking to be asked and heard.

[scaryteacher]

Signed.

[CircleSquareCircleSquare]

Thanks Scary!

[grasspigeons]

I was frightened to - but I've done it now. I hope it doesn't come back and haunt me.

[shartsi]

Signed

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

I have no idea why women aren’t interested in signing this. Why wouldn’t you? It’s mind boggling.

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

Are people really frightened to sign? I’m so sorry, I didn’t realise

[CircleSquareCircleSquare]

Thank you to everyone signing it. We stand with you!

[TopBitchoftheWitches]

Signed.

[CircleSquareCircleSquare]

Through yes lots of people are frightened because trans rights activists have violent thugs in their number.

We are at a stage now where women are being shut down and silenced before any law has even been debated in parliament. Imagine what our daughters and nieces will be faced with in years to come if this goes through in the future. Imagine being elderly and in a home and being educated because you don’t want to be cleaned by a man dressed as a woman.

Signing it is our sacrifice.

[AnxiousAllTheTimeNow]

Because some people don't want to align themselves with politics

[SapphireandSteele]

7048 people have signed this. It's not a public social media petition.

[Stompythedinosaur]

Because I genuinely think the whole thing is transphobic as fuck, whether you say it is or not.

This more or less sums up my reason for not signing.

I'm also keen to distance myself from the sensationalist woman who went to the male only swimming session. I don't believe that trans people are lying about their feelings around their gender in order to access single gender areas they couldn't otherwise come into. I think they are, you know, telling the truth about how they feel.

Every time I read one of the numerous anti-trans threads around at the moment I'm reminded of how bigots in the 80s used to talk about gay people - the assumption that they are somehow lying about their feelings in order to cause harm was around then too.

[CircleSquareCircleSquare]

I can understand that anxious but it is anonymous.

[AfterSchoolWorry]

Only reason for me is that I'm Irish, so it's none of my business.

But if I was British I'd be all over it.

[Clarabumps]

Signed and husband signed too!

[AnxiousAllTheTimeNow]

Yes OP I know but regardless of whether it's anonymous or not, some people won't feel comfortable aligning themselves with politics

[pilf]

Transwomen have been signing it too and saying it's needed.

Are they transphobic?

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

I agree OP, I’ve got late teen sons who all have girlfriends. They are all so pc they just hadn’t seen it at all. Once I’ve explained they all say “oh yes, I can see what you’re saying”. But it’s all about the let’s all be “liberal and tolerant, peace man”. Well peace to man.....less so women. We’re going back in time. So much for suffragettes etc.