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Have Muslim leaders been condemning the attacks?

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JumpandScore Mon 16-Nov-15 19:52:15

It just occurred to me reading another thread (sorry!)

I am very much in the don't tar them all with the same brush camp, but a number of people have said why aren't many Muslims speaking out? It's true I haven't seen any reports of prominent Muslims condemning them. Have I missed them? Are they not being reported? Or are they keeping quiet?

claig Mon 16-Nov-15 19:57:07

My guess is that they are not being reported.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 16-Nov-15 20:02:46

Yes. Of course they have.
www.google.co.uk/search?q=muslim+leaders+condemn+paris+attacks

originalmavis Mon 16-Nov-15 20:05:39

The Muslim Council of Britain for one. I've seen Muslims laying flowers and observing silences. Who are 'prominent' Muslims? There are many various branches.

lordStrange Mon 16-Nov-15 20:08:12

Yes all the leaders/governments in the ME and Turkey have all vociferously condemned the attacks.

warmastoast Mon 16-Nov-15 20:15:07

Muslims in the UK have also been among those organising and speaking at candlelight vigils for Paris at cities including Birmingham and Manchester

Etak15 Mon 16-Nov-15 20:15:18

It's probably not being reported, just as the fact that the security guard who stopped who stopped him from entering the stadium and saved so many lives was a Muslim.

Etak15 Mon 16-Nov-15 20:16:11

- has not been reported

YesterdayOnceMore Mon 16-Nov-15 20:20:09

I haven't heard the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi condemning the attacks either. It doesn't mean that we should assume they support them. I don't need to hear every other Muslim in Britain condemning the attacks to know the vast majority of Muslims (and everyone else) are horrified at what has happened.

warmastoast Mon 16-Nov-15 20:22:04

I find it more speaking and true to find Muslims identifying with the victims and feeling as traumatised as everyone else- grieving for the losses in common with the rest of the community here. Asking most Muslims to condemn the actions of a group utterly alien to them in order to distance themselves from those actions speaks more to how wrongly they are perceived. Of course the killing of innocents is condemned and horrific - it can be strange and hurtful to be even asked to declare what should be such an obvious fact

TheWoodenSpoonOfMischief Mon 16-Nov-15 20:27:32

Of course Muslims condemn the attacks. They could easily be the victims of ISIS attacks and often are.
Isn't it true that islamic terrorists have killed more Muslims than anyone else? They even target mosques.

PigletJohn Mon 16-Nov-15 20:53:53

in some quarters, I've seen the Anti-Muslims getting very vociferous. I read an article recently by a British Jewish writer who said that Muslims are the target of choice for modern neo-fascists.

LimboNovember Mon 16-Nov-15 22:22:05

yes

www.jeraldinephneah.me/2015/11/singaporean-muslim-response-to-the-paris-terror-attacks-by-isis.html

StylishDuck Mon 16-Nov-15 22:32:44

What Yesterday said.

littleducks Mon 16-Nov-15 22:42:18

The muslim council of britain have organised a statement which a several groups and some individuals have then collectively signed:

www.mcb.org.uk/a-statement-of-solidarity-from-british-muslim-communities/

This article describes some of the twitter from 'normal' muslims not leaders as such:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11996902/i-am-a-muslim-paris-attacks-social-media.html

I have seen statements on mosque websites condemning the "horrific attacks in Paris, Beirut and Baghdad"

wishingchair Mon 16-Nov-15 22:53:37

Of course they have done.

www.youtube.com/embed/wfYanI-zJes

#notinmyname

bluebolt Tue 17-Nov-15 07:56:28

I am concerned of mainstream lack of coverage, in the guardian they had imams and rabbis at the scene paying respects and singing the French national anthem together. If this made the news I must of missed of the coverage. We should not have to rely on you tube or search engines. As these jahadis are willing to die for Allah I do believe it is important for the media to dismiss the belief of being rewarded for their actions to stop further recruitment and the voices Muslims are powerful.

originalmavis Tue 17-Nov-15 08:02:46

But they only believe what their handlers have told them. I'd they actually thought about it - really thought 'oh so I get all those virgins to bonk for eternity, hang on what I get to have sex for ever, how does that work? Isn't that for having children? So how does that work? Who are these women? My sister has to bonk some stranger for eternity if she likes it or not? It all sounds a bit fishy to me...'

firegirl Tue 17-Nov-15 08:05:26

Inclined to agree with you bluebolt. Not much coverage in the mainstream media of Muslims speaking out against these attacks and yet if you search for it, you can see it happening a lot. I'm wondering if the western media thinks it makes for a better story to be able to report a backlash of Muslim hatred as everyone in the west becomes suspicious of all muslims.

AuntieStella Tue 17-Nov-15 08:06:25

Yes, extensively so, across much of the Middle East too.

You wouldn't know from the British press reporting, though.

TheWoodenSpoonOfMischief Tue 17-Nov-15 08:08:44

I think philosophy should be taught in schools. Many people have forgotten how to question.
I'm not referring to only religion but media and social media too.
People just accept and believe what others tell them.

theunfairersex Tue 17-Nov-15 08:26:02

It sounds like you haven't read widely enough.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/16/paris-attacks-we-all-have-our-own-ways-of-dealing-with-tragedy

AmberR12 Tue 17-Nov-15 09:14:11

I think the best way to fight ISIS is for all Muslims of the world to stand up against them.

nauticant Tue 17-Nov-15 09:18:51

The next thread will be titled:

Although Some Muslim Leaders Condemned The Attacks, Did They Really Mean It?

fourmummy Tue 17-Nov-15 09:59:25

But they only believe what their handlers have told them. I'd they actually thought about it - really thought this is key. All societies control the quantity and quality of information, knowledge, chatter, imagery. Belief systems ebb and flow, change, diversify. The so-called 'Enlightenment' beliefs of science, evidence, rationalism, humanism are not for everybody. The West (shorthand) 'fought' communism in the '80s. All 'fights' are presented as clashes of ideas to citizens - but the underbelly is the grubby stuff of power and money. Right now, it's this (although jihadists have been a part of Islam in one form or another for as long as Islam has been around, and does seem to be taking a while to go, so I'd ask which power base and funding are continuously supporting this). Power grabs and riches cannot be separated from idealogical fights. If you want to know who is doing this, follow the money and ask who benefits, on each side. Will adding Muslim voices to the protestations change things? This is the cherry on the cake, but the real changes will only happen when power and financial shifts occur - unfortunately for us all.

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