2005: the flare-loving fag-free club

[charliecat]

Here we go girls

[bluemoon]

Strangely, I can't find this thread on the 'health' board. Only from your link on the old thread ... hmmmm ???

[bluemoon]

I'm blind of course. It's here.

Have a great trip FG!!

Do any of you feel like smoking more when you feel ill? I do. I don't know why.

That other thread about smoking you linked to cc really got my blood boiling. Especially when people comment about low income smokers still buying fags. They clearly don't get the fact that low income smokers (me!) (or ex-me!) hate themselves for every pack they buy and are addicts not just physiologically but also psychologically. I think all heavy smokers have anxiety issues / depressions etc. And a lot of really broke people smoke because they're in a pit of depression and smoking a tab is one of the few pleasures in their day however misguided that pleasure is.

Sorry, off my soapbox. I wanted to post on the thread but also couldn't be bothered as everyone was so holier than thou. Even though I'm now nearly a non-smoker I will NEVER come down hard on smokers because I will always remember the trap it can be.

[crazy]

here here

[Twink]

Glad to see you here CC ! Excellent sentiments on the other thread, you're really getting through it now, keep going xxx

Bluemoon, you're so right, someone addicted to fags will always find the money somehow to get some - the companies rely on this, just look at all the 'cheap' brands around , even mainstream ones like B&H seem to have their cheaper equivalents.

When dh & I were students, we still 'found' the money (or rather the overdraft) to be able to smoke 20 a day because we were addicted to the drug, food would come as a secondary thing.

It truly is a nasty drug and as I've said many times before, I'd be stuck back with it if I even had one these days. I've been 6 years without now, but I've done that before and blown it, the end of Jan is my target for doing the longest ever without.

[mammya]

Hello all, and happy new year, wishing you all a fag-free 2005.

For me it hasn't started at all well I must admit, just spent a few days over xmas with my family and had a few fags (my excuse: they stress me out too much! poor I know but hey...) and today went to a friend's for lunch and had a few more... But there it stops! No more tobacco for me! Will have to reset my counter now though.

I saw that other thread about smoking and it annoyed me too, am stopping myself from looking at it now!

[charliecat]

Hey Twink nice to see your still keeping up with us all....we've fell off a few times again but we are still dangling on by a thin line
Come back for a cheer at the end of January...Go girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Mammya....where have you been? Silence on this thread usually does mean someones been puffing. Get back on track with us and see how it goes this year
Bluemoon....
I think fags are disgusting and i think they should be banned and all the smokers left should be weaned off of nicotine and then thatll be the end of it. (dream on I know)
Most of the people I know smoke..X thinks it helps her get through the days...i think she knows how damaging it is. X hasnt got the whatever it takes to try and stop....think hes of the "it wont happen to me sort". X are so uneducated about such like shit they dont give it a thought. They will encourage thier kids to smoke so they someone to tap a fag off. X spends her whole day sitting smoking copping out of life itself for the sake of a fag. Says she doesnt know what she would do with herself if she didnt smoke...AARRRGGGHHHH. X limits herself to an evening wine smoking habit and is a ratty so and so and I can see it for what it is...nicotine withdrawel...and I just look at them and think OMG you poor buggers and you dont even know....
I think the dependancy side of it is so so so so so ugly. It really is foul and yet most people dont even realise...so I dont know what side I come down on. I think a sympathetic nonsmoker...until someone trys to tell me what a pleasure smoking is then I see red!!!!!!!!
I dont think I wcan even be holier than though as each time I am I find myself in a puff of smoke 3 days later.
DD wants me to build Zoo arrggghhhhh

[minkmama]

i thought you built it already cc???

it was really interesting reading all that stuff on your writing fg, i'm in awe that you can take one idea and build it into a book. if that's not talent i don't know what is!!

glad to have you back mammya, was about to email you to see if you were okay. did you spend xmas in france then?

i'm off to read that thread you lot have been talking about...

[charliecat]

I did but it had to be semi dismantled till i hoovered under and around it... She got it together herself thankfully by the time id spennt another 10 mins on here...lol back laterxx

[charliecat]

Back now...

Yes glad BM is asking Fiona all those questions! I would forget who was called what and who had done what if I was writing a book. In fact im so ditzy that I might have forgot someones name by the next chapter...that of course is why some folk do somethings and others stay well clear!!!!!
Back to the grind tommorow...are yours back at school yet FG? Whens everyones little chicks back at nursery?

[mammya]

Yours got a zoo CC? Mine got a Peter Pan Island! AAAARRRRGGGHHH... So many little fiddly bits! And as you say even worse when in the throes of nicotine withdrawal... Double AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!!!! She also got far too many Barbies and tiny, tiny accessories... Triple AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!
By the way, yes I was in France. In the South but as usual crap weather while it was nice here (I think I take it with me!)

[minkmama]

whaddya mean good weather here mammya?! it was freezing cold and not even a snowflake in sight for the trouble!! which part of the south are you from? i'm sorry, but it must be a whole lot prettier than croydon

oh yeah cc, i forgot ot mention that i'd read the bit about the lady from croydon in fg's book and yes, that is me with skanky nails but i do wear a nice dressing gown to get me in the mood

ds1 actually went back last wednesday which was when the nursery re-opened. he's feeling poorly (again) so i'm not looking forward to tomorrow morning and getting him to be mildly excited about going...

[minkmama]

ds1 got JJ's garage from bob the builder, part of a set that i'd saved from his birthday so that he didn't get too much. luckily it just has things like pipes and planks of wood and no little bits of jewellery,stilletos or animal feed to hoover up. naturally i chuck it all in a non-ikea box

[bluemoon]

Cc, mine starts nursery tomorrow for the FIRST TIME!!! Well, the settling in part anyway so I'll be with her this week. She's doing 3 mornings 9-12 which will go up to 5 if she likes it. I've no idea what to expect and have all the usual cliched fears about people (staff or kids) being horrible to her, her sitting withdrawn in a corner by herself etc. etc.

I will be GASPING for one by midday tomorrow!

[minkmama]

OMG it's come round so quickly bm! i'd forgotten all about it as it seemed so far away. goodluck, it won't be as bad as you imagine, perhaps a little tough for both of you but in the long run it's good for them to get out there and do stuff. ds1 enjoys being there but always cries just before i hand him over to a carer. plus she's only doing sessions so it will be over before you both know it. big hugs for the big day!!

[bluemoon]

Thanks mm, I AM nervous. I need some practical tips for first time mums from cc! I know dd will cry when I go to leave and cling onto me and say something which will make me feel utterly dreadful to leave her there. But I don't have to face the leaving bit until next week ... phew ...

[charliecat]

And so of course I stroll in a whole day too late...AAARRRGGGHHHHH Sorry!!!!!!!!!!
Hope today went well BM. Im sure you were both fine and even if she was clinging to your ankles wailing, give it a few weeks and im sure she will be prattling on about Daisy and Mary and Sam and Theo and all the other small people there!!!
Generally the kids at nursery arent bad/mean/nasty/horrible they are quiet/shy/loud...whatever but there only 1 kid a term (it seems) who has making other kids miserable his/her agenda...and even then, its for 5 mins of a 3.5hour session and the staff know who the kid is and keep an extra eyeball on that one IYKWIM.
Today was our first day back and I wasnt the member of staff that slept in (woohoo!)and it was nice to be back.
Left my house tidy this morning (after all my blackbagging) and this is me just back....and so the holidays are over...GRIM!!

[Flumberrysauce]

Better join too I spose. Am about to get hooked on the Nicorette nasal spray - again!! Almost as nice as fags and just as expensive, but means not much in way of cravings.

I am an expert at giving up, so anyone need any advice..... done it about 5 times now.

Still got xmas name - durr. Am Flum.

[charliecat]

LOl, I am on attempt er at least 207 now...so who am I to give out advice...
...but heres my tuppence worth...if you really do want to give them up, what makes you think tommorow will be any easier than today(thats for when your about to reach for one and fail your quit) and...from a month not smoking I feel much better and its nice getting out of bed in the morning knowing im not going to spend the day choking myself to death hating every puff and wishing I wasnt doing it.
I feel liberated. Join us!

[bluemoon]

Hello flum! I second what cc said.

I'm too knackered tonight to do more than say hello and that I posted a thread on the 'nurseries' board about something that happened at dd's settling in today. But generally speaking I think it went ok. I haven't left her yet though!

[minkmama]

glad it went okay bm, will read your post on the other thread, but i know what you mean about days like these when what seems like a fairly normal day to some mentally exhausts you as a mother! hope you get a good rest and that tomorrow goes well.

ds1 bunked off today due to high fever so spent the day being extra mumsy.

apart from that, i've virtually got nothing to talk about today...how weird!

glad you're all well, catch up tomorrow xx

[minkmama]

somebody said a long time ago that one day one of these quits will be our last i like that one...

[bluemoon]

Today was pretty dire with the settling in. I started to really wonder how dd will be when I'm not there. She's almost 2.3 and in some ways I think of her as quite 'grown up' because she's so articulate but when I see her there she looks much smaller than all the others (she is quite diddy) and she's quite, how to put it nicely, 'weedy'. She plays mostly on her own in little corners with the smallest things she can find. I noticed today that if another child takes something from her that she's playing with she just flops on the floor, puts her chin on her chest and cries silently. I don't think any of the nursery workers would even know she was crying if I wasn't there. I really worry she won't have a nice time and I keep wondering why the hell I'm doing this.

Blimey do I want a fag after this morning ...

[charliecat]

Awww Bluemoon, that sounds horrid The thing is I guess, is because you are there the staff arent rushing to bundle her up and make her happy again...I didnt settle my dds in I just said goodbye(gulp sob what the hell am I doing) and off I went. My nursery doesnt do settling in, the parents do just say bye and we ring them if thier dd/ds really doesnt settle.
At 2.3 kids generally dont share...honestly...your dd is gutted because what she had has been unfairly removed....thats perfectly normal...honestly.
Why are you putting her in nursery?...is it for social skills or to get some you time or work? Or because everyone else is?
I didnt put my precious little cherub dd1 in till she was 3.5..beforethat we socialised at the park with friends etc...at 3.3 it suddenly dawned on me she would be starting school soon and would have next to no skills such as eating with people, sharing with folk other than in folks front rooms etc....and she did like it. But TBH I wouldnt have wanted to be there with her the first few days...she would have been...and still is really, a social wallflower. On the edge of everyone else having fun. Thats just her though. She will join in when it suits her and not before. But to see that...and see another 22 kids clapping along merrily with her standing there still as a post would have rattled me.
Dont have a fag! See how it goes and if your still not happy then take it from there.
Remeber this is your little angel here and no mummy is going to be happy about leaving her, specially when shes so diddy and dainty and cute!!!
MMs ds is bunking off already hes so settled in
BTW theres a couple of wee boys at our nursety who howl in thier mummys arms and by the time mum has got to the door they are zooming up to play with X,y,z laughing thier heads of in excitement...kids are mad wee creatures!!

[charliecat]

But just one powerful "hit" of nicotine and you?ll again face another 72 hours of detox anxieties. It's why the one puff survival rate is almost zero. None of us are stronger than nicotine but then we don?t need to be as it is simply a chemical with an I.Q. of zero. It does not plot, plan or conspire and is not some demon within us. Our most effective weapon against it is, and always has been, our vastly superior intelligence but only if put to work.

Nugget for me today!

[charliecat]

I have now stopped smoking for 1 months, 8 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes, 58 seconds. That translates into 1158 cigarettes NOT smoked, for a savings of $246.07! I have increased my life expectancy by 4 days, 34 minutes, 47 seconds. And heres my quit details too...woohoo..