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Scotland to trial 4-day working week

378 replies

MyBadHabitsLeadToYou · 03/09/2021 19:02

With no consequential pay reduction.

I couldn’t find a thread on this. Apologies if I have missed one.

I’m not sure what to make of this. I already work a four-day week (so that my four year old isn’t in full time nursery) and it’s a nice balance. But sometimes a bit stressful because my workload is heavy so it’s one less day in which to get things done. However, soooo many people are so overworked and stressed and it would be good for mental health etc.

But I’m not entirely clear on how this will work in practice e.g small private businesses. Twitter views are very mixed. How will it benefit retail staff etc, will it only benefit the office workers…

Just wondering what the consensus is.

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PepsiHoover · 03/09/2021 19:04

It will probably end up with people working the same amount of hours across less days. .

MyBadHabitsLeadToYou · 03/09/2021 19:05

Are they going to be able to compel private firms etc to comply?

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StarryStarrySocks · 03/09/2021 19:05

I can't wait! But agree, don't really see how it will work in practice other than for people with flexible office jobs.

Littlescottiedog · 03/09/2021 19:06

Well I doubt it'll benefit retail, NHS or education staff. So yes, it'll just be office workers I imagine.

SofiaMichelle · 03/09/2021 19:07

Jesus wept.

Is there no end to what The SNP will try to do to bribe the population into voting for independence.

It's completely and utterly unaffordable. Scotland is already subsidised by England due tho the Barnett formula.

I sincerely hope they do gain independence before they sink the entire UK.

SofiaMichelle · 03/09/2021 19:08

@MyBadHabitsLeadToYou

Are they going to be able to compel private firms etc to comply?
No. They'll leave.

It would be like Brexit on steroids.

ReginaaPhalange · 03/09/2021 19:11

Can't find anything on this on any Scottish news websites... can you post a link OP?

BashfulClam · 03/09/2021 19:15

‘Scotland’ isn’t a company though so that headline when I saw it surprised me. My work aren’t changing.

BashfulClam · 03/09/2021 19:15

@ReginaaPhalange it’s was on bbc Scotlands website yesterday

Munkustrap · 03/09/2021 19:18

Hard to see how that would work for e.g. education.

There'll also be some cracking company politics when firms are deciding who gets Mondays and Fridays off and so gets a three day weekend and who gets their extra day midweek.

flowerycurtain · 03/09/2021 19:22

Hahahahahahahahaha

Says every Scottish farm worker currently working a 7 day week

SheWoreYellow · 03/09/2021 19:29

Link
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-58403087.amp

I think I’d get as much done in four days as five tbh.

Notthemessiah · 03/09/2021 19:29

With all the productivity improvements over the last 100 years we should have been working a four day week decades ago. Instead all of those gains have been eaten up by those at the top and we are kept artificially busy so that we don’t have time to think about why this might be.

It seems mad to me that some people appear to be mad at the thought of everyone working less! How much koolaid have you drunk?

Pumperthepumper · 03/09/2021 19:31

@SofiaMichelle

Jesus wept.

Is there no end to what The SNP will try to do to bribe the population into voting for independence.

It's completely and utterly unaffordable. Scotland is already subsidised by England due tho the Barnett formula.

I sincerely hope they do gain independence before they sink the entire UK.

You’ve embarrassed yourself here. You need to read more.
Pumperthepumper · 03/09/2021 19:33

@Munkustrap

Hard to see how that would work for e.g. education.

There'll also be some cracking company politics when firms are deciding who gets Mondays and Fridays off and so gets a three day weekend and who gets their extra day midweek.

It’s not really, a lot of schools in Edinburgh do 4.5 days.
BoredZelda · 03/09/2021 19:34

Never going to happen, except maybe in the public sector, which is bloated and unproductive anyway.

mmmammma · 03/09/2021 19:35

Exactly what @Notthemessiah said 👆

Whycangirlsbesonasty · 03/09/2021 19:37

A lot of schools do 4.5 days a week and it shafts parents who are trying to work full time. I think they just assume we are all SAHMs…

Pumperthepumper · 03/09/2021 19:38

@Whycangirlsbesonasty

A lot of schools do 4.5 days a week and it shafts parents who are trying to work full time. I think they just assume we are all SAHMs…
Oh so childcare? Rather than education?
MyBadHabitsLeadToYou · 03/09/2021 19:44

Oh so childcare? Rather than education?

It’s all very well saying this but there needs to be a dose of reality too.

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Westerman · 03/09/2021 19:46

Another unworkable policy. Is it one that the Greens have insisted on pushing in return for getting into Sturgeon's cabinet?

IWasBornInAThunderstorm · 03/09/2021 19:46

How's that going to work then? Is EVERYONE doing 4 days a week? Coz then I could reduce my nursery fees and the nursery staff would still get paid the same.

Whycangirlsbesonasty · 03/09/2021 19:47

Do you know how they get the educational hours into a 4.5 day week? They have shortened break times. There is barely any time for lunchtime play, which is so sad. But yeh, childcare. Whatever!

SquishySquirmy · 03/09/2021 19:49

"Scotland" trialling it doesn't mean all (or even most) workplaces in Scotland.
I expect that there will be a vague encouragement of civil service departments etc to participate. So certain roles in certain workplaces. Not everyone!

Maybe some private workplaces will trial it too, if they can see a business case for doing so.

I'd love it personally, and I think my (office based) workplace could maybe be more efficient.
As long as there wasn't a compulsion to work longer on the other 4 days....
But I dont think I'll be offered it, sadly!

IWasBornInAThunderstorm · 03/09/2021 19:50

@Whycangirlsbesonasty

Do you know how they get the educational hours into a 4.5 day week? They have shortened break times. There is barely any time for lunchtime play, which is so sad. But yeh, childcare. Whatever!
Omg. That's so cruel. Playtime is where social skills are learnt.