To those who voted for Brexit

[HappyClappy1]

Are you happy with your decision?

Very happy

What do you want from this thread OP?

Op people wanted to remain and leave for such a vast array of reasons, maybe be more specific about what you want to get out of this?

To find out if people are happy with the way things are at the moment.

Weren't lots of catastrophic things supposed to have happened by now?

It's quite hard to tell at the moment isn't it?

Covid has veiled /masked any benefits and problems?

As I remember, we were all supposed to be out of work by now, banking & automotive were supposed to have shut down instead of setting up new factories, the housing market was supposed to crash and the supermarket shelves were supposed to be empty.

Instead, predictably, some things are going better than forecast, some less well. There are remaining issues that are being discussed. Some will be harder to solve than others. People are still travelling to the continent on holiday, covid-allowing.

None of this is a surprise.

Yes I am still happy with my decision

Yes, very happy

@Mintjulia

As I remember, we were all supposed to be out of work by now, banking & automotive were supposed to have shut down instead of setting up new factories, the housing market was supposed to crash and the supermarket shelves were supposed to be empty.

Instead, predictably, some things are going better than forecast, some less well. There are remaining issues that are being discussed. Some will be harder to solve than others. People are still travelling to the continent on holiday, covid-allowing.

None of this is a surprise.

No, you actually can't go on holidays to Europe without having to quarantine. This wouldn't have been the case before Brexit.

Covid is masking a lot I think. Trillions has left the country as far as banking is concerned, and I'm seeing empty shelves being reported, with warnings about worsening shortages over the summer due to the driver shortage. We have tanked our reputation internationally, and we have the most corrupt and incompetent government I have known in my lifetime at the worst possible time as a direct result of Brexit. Oh and that Iron Maiden bloke isn't happy.

So happy, is this your gripe?

No, you actually can't go on holidays to Europe without having to quarantine. This wouldn't have been the case before Brexit

There's more to life than holidays OP (I voted "remain" BTW).

Off the top of my head, I can name so many downsides. Risk to peace in Northern Ireland, loss of freedom of movement, Erasmus etc, a labour shortage, the need to negotiate new trade agreements which are worse than what we had, threats to food quality, serious concerns over the future of fishing and farming. Online shopping from EU countries is more expensive. Musicians can’t travel visa free. And the loss of travel conveniences like EHIC and now roaming charges.

What benefits do we have now that is worth losing all that?

Well, I’ve had to come back from abroad where I was looking after my mum who retired abroad 30 years ago. Thanks to brexit she is now in a home. Thanks to brexit, I can’t send parcels because of the insane customs regs. Thanks to brexit if I choose to stay abroad I will have to pay 5 k import tax on my car that I previously could just drive across no bother. I also have to get health insurance that was covered before. My children can no longer look for jobs abroad, even though they have endless fiends on the internet, the world is getting smaller, yet we are deliberately cutting ourselves off. Also, it’s been 6 months. Not long enough for disaster yet, and what exactly is happening behind ooh covid? I know the tuc is fighting for workers rights because, guess what? We had some thanks to Europe, and now we have none.
What and how has beprexit actually benefitted us? Thank goodness all those nasty Turks won’t get chance to flood our shores and steal our jobs. We can get our beef from Australia too, yum, 6 months stored in cold rooms in gas. so much better for the world.
Grrrrrrrrr.

Yes I'm very pleased with my decision. The first crisis being the pandemic showed how great this country is compared to the rest of Europe. At the very beginning of covid19 when Britain was discussing developing a vaccine, Europe on the very same day was holding meetings about fishing quotas. We are well out of that mess. Its served its purpose in the 80s and 90s and now we all need to move on in collaboration

We have a terrible government. But we had a terrible government pre Brexit. This is the fault of our useless, out of touch opposition, and not something I would directly attribute to Brexit. I am hopeful that one day we get a competent one. Don't think the EU's leadership is much better tbh. The French certainly don't seem to rate Macron. Even Merkel is on a downward slide.
It's swings and roundabouts for me. I'm quite happy not to have been part of the EU vaccine rollout. Other stuff isn't so good. I think how it goes for Britain, is determined by who is in govt and right now that's a problem for us.

@WhyMrsRobinson

Well, I’ve had to come back from abroad where I was looking after my mum who retired abroad 30 years ago. Thanks to brexit she is now in a home. Thanks to brexit, I can’t send parcels because of the insane customs regs. Thanks to brexit if I choose to stay abroad I will have to pay 5 k import tax on my car that I previously could just drive across no bother. I also have to get health insurance that was covered before. My children can no longer look for jobs abroad, even though they have endless fiends on the internet, the world is getting smaller, yet we are deliberately cutting ourselves off. Also, it’s been 6 months. Not long enough for disaster yet, and what exactly is happening behind ooh covid? I know the tuc is fighting for workers rights because, guess what? We had some thanks to Europe, and now we have none. What and how has beprexit actually benefitted us? Thank goodness all those nasty Turks won’t get chance to flood our shores and steal our jobs. We can get our beef from Australia too, yum, 6 months stored in cold rooms in gas. so much better for the world. Grrrrrrrrr.

Depends on what your sending. I've been sending stuff abroad without issue in either side. You can still get a medical card like the one we already had when travelling in the EU SO you can still get the same level as care before.or do you mean the expats acann no longer come back to use the nhs when. they feel like it? Why does it stop your dc's applying for jobs abroad? What workers rights have been stopped?

@OhBiscuits

Off the top of my head, I can name so many downsides. Risk to peace in Northern Ireland, loss of freedom of movement, Erasmus etc, a labour shortage, the need to negotiate new trade agreements which are worse than what we had, threats to food quality, serious concerns over the future of fishing and farming. Online shopping from EU countries is more expensive. Musicians can’t travel visa free. And the loss of travel conveniences like EHIC and now roaming charges.

What benefits do we have now that is worth losing all that?

85% of the adult population having a first vaccination against COVID is quite a significant benefit I'd argue.

It doesn’t stop them applying, but it makes it more expensive and more difficult. Great. Also, the Erasmus scheme was much cheaper and more accessible to students from lower income backgrounds, as flights to/life in Europe is cheaper than what students on the sort-of-replacement Turing scheme would be expected to pay. This means students from lower-income backgrounds will struggle to afford international study and miss out on experiences that once were on offer to them.

Why would we want that? Literally, why is that a positive? No one is saying we can’t ever travel or work in or move to Europe. But it’s harder, more expensive, with more paperwork and more uncertainty. Professional qualifications, once recognised, may not be.

The UK was still bound by European rules when approving the Pfizer and AZ vaccines, because we were still in the transition period, no? The UK hasn’t done anything it couldn’t have done as part of the EU.

@LadyLolaRuben

Yes I'm very pleased with my decision. The first crisis being the pandemic showed how great this country is compared to the rest of Europe. At the very beginning of covid19 when Britain was discussing developing a vaccine, Europe on the very same day was holding meetings about fishing quotas. We are well out of that mess. Its served its purpose in the 80s and 90s and now we all need to move on in collaboration

The speed of the vaccination programme is literally the only benefit of Brexit (?) that leavers can come up with. Never mind that before that Britain reached one of the highest Covid mortality rates in the western world.

Yes very pleased. Thank you for asking.

I think its impossible to tell with covid tbh