To those who voted for Brexit

[HappyClappy1]

Are you happy with your decision?

I voted Remain.

The worst thing about Brexit is that we have ended up with Boris Johnson as Prime Minister.

I wonder if those who have acknowledged voting Leave on this thread do so outside this forum.

@ichundich I did not say that the UK has better employment rights than EU countries. I said ' a lot of UK employment laws are more generous than EU employment laws and a considerable amount of the EU laws are based on laws that were already in place in the UK'.
This is true. Your point about Germany having better maternity pay than the UK is irrelevant to the point I made. Germany is not the EU and I think you will find maternity rights in Germany are not replicated across the EU.
And no I don't just eat turnips and baked beans like I expect you think thick Brexit voting people do (even though I didn't vote for it). Maybe you should shop somewhere with better quality fruit and veg and stop blaming Brexit for things that have nothing to do with it.

@newnortherner111

I voted Remain.

The worst thing about Brexit is that we have ended up with Boris Johnson as Prime Minister.

I wonder if those who have acknowledged voting Leave on this thread do so outside this forum.

I didn't vote leave but probably they don't given they are all deemed to be stupid, ignorant, anti-immigrant racists if the comments on MN are anything to go by.

One big issue once international travel resumes will be tourists visiting here realising they no longer get tax free. Luxury spending is still buoyed by a travel restricted local client business so the issue hasn’t hit the stores yet, once people start heading abroad we will see a huge decline in revenue.

Lots of the luxury goods companies are scrambling to encourage relationship building with local clients in the hopes of retaining the growth experienced during and after lockdown. Yes we will see a return to tourism but the lack of VAT relief will be an enormous turn off for the high spending ones who will purchase in other countries.

Yes, and you’re welcome.

I was a Remain voter and as a small business owner it's just a joy to try and work out how the hell I register and pay VAT in all the EU countries I sell to.

So I am stopping EU sales as I can't work out what I am supposed to be doing/paying.

Hoping all the Brexiters come good and buy British.

Stupid people are often happy with their stupid decisions. They didn't understand the full implications at the time and they don't understand now, and furthermore, they generally don't care.

@RampantIvy

I notice that those who say they are happy with Brexit have not specified what has improved for them.

What is better since Brexit?

Totally agree. ‘I’m not listing the benefits…..you wouldn’t know them, they go another school.’

Quite happy thanks

I find that question quite sad @TooOldandTired - it’s okay for the lower socio económic status kids to have less competition in minimum wage roles, but they have lost a big opportunity for self improvement? Working abroad was the way to finance such travels if your parents couldn’t fund your gap year! I used to employ a lot of Brits who’d never been abroad before.

And in any case, the news has been reporting that Britain is so short staffed in these low paid sectors that they’ll need to allow eu immigrants in anyway.

Claralara

This is exactly why those of us that voted to leave don't want to enter into another debate. I don't call anyone that voted to remain "stupid" because I'm respectful of their right to hold a different set of views to my own.

It's funny how misplaced some of the media rhetoric is about the correlation between voting leave and level of education/employment. Nearly all of my fellow leave-voting friends are graduates, including directors and partners at international firms and banks. Frankly none of that matters whatsoever but for the fact that voting leave does not automatically equal stupid/naive/xenophobic/selfish/insert another adjective.

hey I'm just saying what I see. I am not respectful of your views or your choices, and I am not respectful of what you and people like you have done to the rest of us. I am angry and I see no reason to give you any respect; you don't deserve my respect.

For me, debating whether we're still happy with our vote from 2016 moves towards the territory of navel gazing; we have now left and, whatever your vote, we need to pull together to make the best of it for our country as a whole.

I agree @frg124

I would say that the divide is still the same, the arguments still the same. It’s getting boring and more importantly doesn’t help the ou try adjust to what the future will be.

What I’m absolutely pissed of about is the current government still telling lies. Fur example about the deal with Australia that is going to give us peanuts really.
Or about NI etc….

What I wish we had is a discussion on what the future will be. On how the country will have to reorganise itself (see the effect in farming and fishery). On how a reduction in immigration from the EU will be dealt with - see farming again and restaurants. But also doctors and nurses etc…,
Or the entertainment industry. Or Brits living in the EU

I’ve yet to see any discussion on any of those issues.

@frg124 tbf as anEU citizen, I’ve see a clear rise in xenophobic sentiment. And this has come from leavers.

Does it mean all leavers? Nope. But it certainly make life much harder for me and my dcs (despite the fact they, themselves are British)

DP's gone to France this week and hasn't had to quarantine (he's double vaccinated) so not sure what you're on about OP.

[quote NotAllTheOnesWhoWanderAreLost]@frg124 tbf as anEU citizen, I’ve see a clear rise in xenophobic sentiment. And this has come from leavers.

Does it mean all leavers? Nope. But it certainly make life much harder for me and my dcs (despite the fact they, themselves are British)[/quote]
My dad's Eastern European and voted for Brexit. He told me the EU reminded him of the Soviet Union. He worked hard back in the 80s and 90s for his own Eastern European country to gain independence and saw a parallel in the UK.

Neither of us have noticed an increase in xenophobic sentiment.

I am not being goady or disrespectful, and I don't want an argument either, but I would genuinely still like to know what has improved since Brexit.

I realise that covid has muddied the waters somewhat.

Why is no-one saying why they are glad they voted leave?

@frumpety, I'll be watching to see how it pans out over the next decade. At the moment, and with Covid, I think it's too early to tell.

Well it’s great that you haven’t seen anything.

My dcs have been told ‘to go back home’ by other pupils. And then told that I as their mum should be sent back.
My FIL started a huge rant on how immigrants, incl EU citizens, should be sent home. Said to my dcs again and in my earshot. Apparently I’m suppose to know ‘but not you because you are nice’..,,
I’ve had comments in shop, from some of
my clients…

It just shows how not everyone has the same experience. I also suspect that it depends a lot on where you are living.

@GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman fair enough.

I can't help feeling its all going to be a bit small printy though, a lot of 'well we only said we might be able to achieve X,Y and Z, we never actually said X,Y and Z would definitely happen ' iyswim.

NotAllTheOnesWhoWanderAreLost

You are assuming the government know or even wants to discuss it. There's a lot to be gained from keeping the country divided.

Besides, I suspect the answer won't be palatable to many.

@newnortherner111

I voted Remain.

The worst thing about Brexit is that we have ended up with Boris Johnson as Prime Minister.

I wonder if those who have acknowledged voting Leave on this thread do so outside this forum.

I openly admit I voted leave- I don’t consider myself a hard brexiter by any means (loathe Johnson) and if I knew Covid was going to come along I probably would have voted remain- a double whammy to the economy. I think just the Brexit hit would have been more easy to ride out.

Why is no-one saying why they are glad they voted leave?
Because I think it's too early to tell, esp with Covid, and with BoJo at the helm.

I think those who are happy the U.K. has left don’t understand or care about NI?

Stupid people are often happy with their stupid decisions. They didn't understand the full implications at the time and they don't understand now, and furthermore, they generally don't care.
That was exactly the attitude that pissed off potential leave voters before the vote: 'Oh, see the ignorant masses, they are too stupid to understand what is good for them, we'll show them what is right.'

If you tell people often enough that they're stupid, and ignore them comprehensively enough, they will eventually to tell you to go fuck yourself. That was, I am sure, a big element in the vote, and it seems that so far, the lesson has not been learned.