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teacher returning to work

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mummynumnum · 10/03/2010 08:59

meeting setup with head as he is leaving soon and dont want to negotiate returning with a strange new head. Started maternity leave in Jan and want to return on July 19th just before we break up on 21st. Partly because I need to be back on full pay in summer and also am a senco and I prepare booklet/info etc for staff over hols and need to get information and dont want to be doing work over summer for free.

Do you think this is acceptable/allowed and I am correct in thinking I will be back on full pay when get paid on 25th if I return on 19th?

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bluefootedpenguin · 10/03/2010 09:32

I think that as long as you are returning for the last week, all be it a short one, then you will receive full pay for the end of July and a full August wage. Ring your LEA finance officer/payroll clerk just to confirm.

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mummynumnum · 10/03/2010 18:39

I thought I had read you can even return on first day of summer holiday and go on to full-pay-think I need to dig out my booklet

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bluefootedpenguin · 11/03/2010 19:21

Mmmm...maybe you are right. Could always just email your union rep for clarification as they will know.

Staggy · 12/03/2010 08:08

You can only do one day and still get paid. I did this with my first and got paid all 6 weeks. I went back full-time for a day before the holidays, got paid full-time over the summer and then started back in September part-time! Cheeky I know but boosted the bank balance!

nickschick · 12/03/2010 08:15

When it comes to money - cheeky is the way to go .

Hollyoaks · 12/03/2010 08:17

I did it too, but went back for two weeks as there wasn't much going on and gave me time to prepare for September. Shame I'll be on mat leave for the summer hols this year . The Jan to July break was very well timed.

Chrysanthamum · 12/03/2010 14:03

Hi I just heard this am at a toddler group that teachers will now be entitled to all holiday time accrued during mat leave. Please say its true.

hana · 12/03/2010 14:08

teachers don't accrue holiday time tho? aren't our holidays already set?

Chrysanthamum · 12/03/2010 14:21

I probably worded that badly, I meant that instead of getting 2 days back for every holiday week you miss on mat leave, apparently you now get the whole week back. Theres an article in TES about this.

Chrysanthamum · 12/03/2010 14:30

I'm no good at links but check this article out:
www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6033486

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mummynumnum · 13/03/2010 21:27

Good it sounds like will all be good to go back on mon 19th just before we break up on the 21st and go back on to full pay

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NappyShedSal · 14/03/2010 06:40

My DD's class teacher did this last year. I felt so sorry for the teacher that had covered her Maternity leave. He had taugt them all year from January, done their Year 2 SATs, written their end-of-year reports, done the Summer Term Parents Eveinings and then she cam eback for the last week - and was obvioulsy treated like a hero from all the children, received end-of year thankyou presents etc. I just hope that the cover teacher also go paid over the summer, because it's a small school so the cost of paying two teachers for 6 weeks will hit them hard I would think. And he'd done all the end-of-year extra work.

hana · 15/03/2010 00:13

supply teachers are generally paid only for days taught - not half terms, holidays etc so he probably didn't miss out on any money.

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mummynumnum · 15/03/2010 07:48

I am a SENCO so do very little teaching and my mat cover will go back to being my 2nd.

If I say going back on Monday before break up, then I run out of money, can I then bring the date forward with sufficient notification.

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crazycrazy · 15/03/2010 08:28

sorry but as a non-public sector worker I just find this a complete joke. Yes you're legally allowed to come back on the last day of term and get paid for the next 6 weeks holiday, but morally . I guess you were all ok with MP's playing the expenses system as well then

Cadders1 · 15/03/2010 08:39

Would just like to say to crazycrazy that as already mentioned mummynumnum will being doing work for school over the summer holidays, as all the teachers and I know do, so why should she not be paid? Also as someone who works in the non-public sector I expect crazy crazy gets paid signifcantly more than people in the public sector do anyway!

crazycrazy · 15/03/2010 08:42

oh that old chestnut - no, actually I don't. Nor do I have a great pension, or a secure job

Cadders1 · 15/03/2010 09:08

Perhaps you should try and get a job in the public sector!! Only takes a year to do your PGCE!

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mummynumnum · 15/03/2010 09:55

Oh dear I have started something here!

I actually do feel slightly cheeky, but as my husband reminded me I do huge amounts of work over the summer to ensure the yr6 students with SEN transferring to us in September are well prepared for. I wouldnt not do it as it would impact on the students and staff, my maternity cover would not know how to do it and she isnt getting paid for my job over the summer and I dont think I should do it for free. I also work till 10/11 most nights on school work after my delightful children are in bed, so I am trying not to feel overly guilty!!

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crazycrazy · 15/03/2010 09:58

mummy if you genuinely feel that you'll be putting in a significant amount of work over the summer then there is no need to feel guilty (i suppose my comments came from more of a general at people actively planning how to 'play' the system to get the most for less)

Cadders1 · 15/03/2010 10:12

Do not feel guilty Mummy, most teachers work bloody hard and our schools and the Government are always trying to get us to do more for less so I will also be going back for the last week of term in July. My Head and the rest of the staff completly support this.

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mummynumnum · 15/03/2010 11:23

Think my head will be fine to! We have a short week in the last week so will do 2 and half days just to get a few things sorted.

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lillybloom · 20/03/2010 18:08

Teachers dont actually get holiday pay. Our salaries are split over the months to allow us a wage over holidays.Mummy- you are perfectly entiltled to return early to get summer wages. Its not being cheeky at all.

Reallytired · 21/03/2010 21:29

Hi I just heard this am at a toddler group that teachers will now be entitled to all holiday time accrued during mat leave. Please say its true. "

It is certainly true for support staff, I imagine its probably true for teachers. But no you do not get paid for 13 weeks holiday as that would be utterly ridiculous. You will acrue 22 days of holiday if you take the full 12 months of maternity leave.

colder · 05/04/2012 12:41

I have been covering a teacher's maternity leave since September. Have now been told the teacher is returning on July 2nd full-time, then going part-time in September. So she will receive full pay through the holidays and I won't get a penny. It's a small school and they can't fund two lots of holiday pay. I will even be writing the reports that the returning teacher will hand out to parents! I understand the motive as money is tight for everyone, but think the system needs looked at as it is unfair on me and unfair on the children that have to have a different teacher for the last three weeks of their final year at our school. Felt people should know that these decisions have a wide knock on effect.

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