am I right to think that if if I'm part time but work every day my holiday entitlement is...

[Mercedes]

I think I should get the full holiday entitlement as i work every day.
If its done by hours then I would get pro rata hours which would mean if I only worked 4 hours on a Monday then I would take 4 hours holiday for a Monday. Yes?
Started a new job and I seem to have less holidays then full time staff so I wanted to check before I raise it with manager and hr

I think it is probably by hours - half day for a half day...

I think it is still done pro-rata but I am not sure, hopefully someone will be along soon who does know though

It's usually done on hours, so you're probably not entitled to full holiday. Check your contract as that should stipulate how your allocation is determined.

It'll be pro-rata. I work term-time only so for 38/39 weeks work every day. But annual leave and public holidays are worked out on an hourly basis.

But in effect it will feel like full holiday entitlement. If you only work 4 hours out of 8 per Monday, you only need 4 hours out of 8 for a whole day's leave.

It will be pro-rata.

If you work 50% of a full timer you will get 50% of the full holiday. You will of course only use 50% for every "day" off you use - assuming you work 50% of each day.

I work out my holiday in hours rather than days as my days aren't evenly spread in terms of the hours I work

tecnically yes is the answer. What your employer should do is give you the full amount of annual leave. What I mean by this is, if you work 20 hours per week and work everyday for 4 hours a day then you will be entitled to the full quota of days even though your days are 4 hours shorter than everyone else. Your day is still a day.

Bank holidays will be worked out on a pro rata basis. If you are working 20 hours per week then you are roughly entitled to 4 out of the 8 annual bank holidays.

Therefore if you were entitled to 20 days annual leave + 4 bank holidays, that would be correct. But as you work everyday, you would have to discount a number of the bank holidays that fall on a monday or a Friday predominately (don't forget Xmas and New Year) and those would be deducted from the total 24 days. Does that make sense?

How is it expressed in your contract Mercedes? If it's expressed in number of days, as you work 5 days a week the number of days you get should be the same as a full time member of staff.

If it's expressed in hours, then the number of hours will be less.

Initially I thought it was pro-rata but its not. If it was I would be on less days. Its also not done on hours just on whole days.
I found out that between offering me the job and starting total annual leave in the organisation was increased by 2 days. I have no problems with a pro rata entitlement but as I work every day I want every day to count iyswim

You may want to have a play with the BusinessLink: Holiday Entitlement Tool.

Your contract may refer to a staff handbook, which may give further information about how holiday entitlement is calculated.

By everyday, do you mean 7 days per week?

no I mean 5 days

nn I had a look at the link but as my new employer gives 25 days plus the bank hols it doesn't work out but thanks anyway

Then you should get 25 half days plus 8 half bank holidays.

I think.

Which may be expressed as 12.5 days holiday + 4 days bank holiday.

Every time you take a day off you should use half a days holiday.

Part-time employees should be treated "no less favourably than comparable full-timers". See: ACAS

25 days plus bank holidays is more than statutory requirement, so no problem there.

Are full-timers getting more holiday than that? Is that the issue?

It should be 25 days plus bank holidays. Pro rata. They may calculate it in hours, but that would be messy to work out and would possibly result in mistakes. Even if you work 30 hours per week but evenly spread over the week your holiday entitlement should be expressed as 25 days. How many hours do you work?

If your holiday entitlement is expressed in days, then you should get exactly the same as a full time person. Simple as that.

Hi flowery (I used to be a priceyp) remember me?

Ooh yes, hi, how's things?

There are two factors - holiday entitlement and holiday pay entitlement - so if you work half the hours of a full time employee every day, then you get the same number of days holidays as the full time employee. For each day of holiday, you will get paid half the amount that the full time employee receives. I know it is very basic, but there are a number of employers out there who need to have it spelt out to them.

Not bad!! Not gone back to work yet and mat leave finished a month ago, no prospect of going back for at least a year yet, DH military and we're OS now. But happy with that. Like to dip in and out of these threads. Must come back to the HR Quiche. How's business?

Pretty good actually, I'm consistently busy and have been for a few months now, which is great. Nice mix of clients as well, including a few private clients, which I wasn't expecting originally.

We should resurrect the quiche at some point, catch up with people!

Definately! Glad to hear it's going well, I am glad to be out of the UK at the mo to be honest. I had planned to get back into HR training, but there's clearly not much of a market for that. But I do miss HR mgt. I am meddling in other things to pass the time!

Bit of meddling's always good!

Sorry flowery - can I go back.

You say that a part timer should get exactly the same as a full timer.

I work 80%. My full time counterparts get 23(ish) days. I get 18 days (I think - it is around there). Surely that is right?

I don't see why I would be entitled to 23 days - I am only 0.8FTE.