am I right to think that if if I'm part time but work every day my holiday entitlement is...

[Mercedes]

I think I should get the full holiday entitlement as i work every day.
If its done by hours then I would get pro rata hours which would mean if I only worked 4 hours on a Monday then I would take 4 hours holiday for a Monday. Yes?
Started a new job and I seem to have less holidays then full time staff so I wanted to check before I raise it with manager and hr

Depends how many days you work though DoNotAnnoy. The OP works 5 days a week, same as a full timer. Her days are obviously shorter, so a day off for her is 4 paid hours, whereas for a full timer it's 7 or 8 or whatever, so it's still pro rata. But because her holiday entitlement is worked out in days, and she works the same number of days, the number of days off she gets must be the same.

Easiest way to think of it is in weeks. Basic statutory minimum is now 5.6 weeks, so everyone must get at least 5.6 paid weeks off a year.

If someone works full time, 5 days a week, they need 28 days holiday entitlement to be able to take 5.6 weeks off.

If a part timer works 3 days a week, they only need 16.8 days holiday to take 5.6 weeks off.

If a part timer works 5 days a week, but shorter days than a full timer, they still need 28 days holiday to be able to take 5.6 weeks off.

For the OP, 28 days holiday x 4 hour days is 112 hours paid holiday a year.

For a full timer working say 8 hours a day, 28 days x 8 hour days is 224 hours paid holiday a year.

Blimey I've just seen your last post DoNotAnnoy. So where you are one 'day' holiday is a full day regardless of how many hours you actually work in a day? Good grief! That's more like hours then really, only not expressed in hours.

Well yes in that case it might be expressed differently, but personally that sounds like a nightmare. So for someone working, say 9-12:30, to take 5 days off, they actually need to book 2.5 days holiday where you are, is that right?

That might work where people work exact half days, but what about people who work different hours? If you have three part timers, one who works 9 - 2 and someone else who works 9 - 2.30 and someone else who works 9 - 3.30, say, how on earth do you make that fair. How many 'days' off does each person need to take to get a week off? To be strictly fair you'd end up with all sorts of fractions of days being taken, making mistakes easy and calculation of entitlement and administration very difficult, imo.

Sorry, I realise it's probably not your idea to organise holiday that way, so not criticising you at all, but that just seems like an unnecessary headache to me! I'm a simple kinda gal, and if holiday can be expressed in number of days off, I find that easier all round. Obviously if someone works different numbers of days each week, or different hours each day, to be fair holiday would have to be expressed and administered in hours, but I prefer avoiding that kind of arrangement if possible!

Omly difference should be the amount of hours you get paid for on days holiday not amount of days holiday you actually receive. i.e. if you work 4hrs 5days you still get paid 4hrs with 5 days holiday taken

DH used to do a 40 hourv week but on a 4 on 4 offso his workplace pro rata'd that down to reduced holiday as he didn't work 5 days a week, it's a complex art and firms wriggle when they can.

But I would expect pro rate yes

Well yes in that case it might be expressed differently, but personally that sounds like a nightmare. So for someone working, say 9-12:30, to take 5 days off, they actually need to book 2.5 days holiday where you are, is that right?

Yes that is exactly right. Could this be similar for OP?

We are able to choose whether to calculate in hours or days - those who work half days or whole days calculate in half days (calculation is done in hours and converted to days though)

I now work 3 full days and 2 half days. So I calculate how many hours holday I am entitled to which is converted to days (we do have a fancy whizzy excel spreadhseet provided by HR). And I take my holiday in half day blocks (as do all employees). It gets even more complicated in that we have core holiday and additional holiday where we can "buy" additional holiday for salary sacrifice - and how they actually calculate that depends on how you spread your part time hours over the week. Now that is a logistical nightmare!

I am pleased to see that I am not being treated unfairly.